April is Confederate History Month!

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April is Confederate History and Heritage Month in the Old Dominion, as well as in many states across the South. As part of the celebration, and in an effort to educate the citizens of the Commonwealth, we will present a Q&A each day, from a Confederate Catechism, by Lyon Gardiner Tyler, 1853-1935; the son of President, John Tyler, who also was a member of the Confederate congress. He was a professor of literature at the College of William and Mary, and served as President of the College of William and Mary from 1888 until 1919.

Day 1: What was the cause of secession in 1861?

It was the yoking together of two jarring nations having different interests which were repeatedly brought to the breaking point by selfish and unconstitutional acts of the North. The breaking point was nearly reached in 1786, when the North tried to give away the Mississippi River to Spain; in 1790, when the North by Congressional act forced the South to pay the Revolutionary debts of the North; in 1801, when they tried to upset the presidential ticket and make Aaron Burr President; and in 1828 and 1832, when they imposed upon the South high protective tariffs for the benefit of Northern manufacturers. The breaking point was finally reached in 1861, when after flagrant nullification of the Constitution by personal liberty laws and underground railroads, resulting in John Brown's assassinations, a Northern President was elected by strictly Northern votes upon a platform which announced the resolve never to submit to a decision of the highest court in the land. This decision (the Dred Scott Case, 1856), in permitting Southern men to go with their slaves into the Territories, gave no advantage to the South, as none of the territorial domain remaining was in any way fit for agriculture, but the South regarded the opposition to it of the Lincoln party as a determination on the part of the North to govern the Union thereafter by virtue of its numerical majority, without any regard whatever to constitutional limitations.
The literature of those times shows that such mutual and mortal hatred existed as in the language of Jefferson to "render separation preferable to eternal discord."
 
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The bloodiest war in American history begins...
In order to coalesce the forces in the North, Lincoln had to stage an incident to inflame the populace, which he did. The firing on Sumter was by his own admission a setup for just such action. Lincoln was aware that provisioning Sumter could provoke a war.
Lincoln's letter to Gustavus Fox on 1 May, 1861, makes it clear that he was pleased by the result of the firing on Ft Sumter..." …You and I both anticipated that the cause of the country would be advanced by making the attempt to provision Ft Sumter, even if it should fail; and it is no small consolation now to feel that our anticipation is justified by the result."
The “result” and the “cause of the country” that Lincoln wished to advance, was, of course, the war that the firing on Fort Sumter brought about. On July 3rd of that same year, Lincoln confided to Orville H. Browning, a close personal friend, about the plan to supply and reinforce Sumter and its actual intentions at the time:
"The plan succeeded. They attacked Sumter - and it fell, and thus did more service than it otherwise could."
Lincoln’s biographers Nicolay and Hay reveal that, quote “When the President determined on war and with the purpose of making it appear that the South was the aggressor, he took measures…” WHEN THE PRESIDENT DETERMINED ON WAR!!! Who caused the first shot to be fired?
President Jefferson Davis later stated: “The order for the sending of the fleet was a declaration of war. The responsibility is on their shoulders, not on ours.”
It is also by Commander Anderson’s own writings that we know that Sumter was not “starving” or without the necessities of survival."
 

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So were any of your ancestors Confederate Soldiers, Blazor?

If so, what role did they play?

What was their rank or battles they saw?
 
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So were any of your ancestors Confederate Soldiers, Blazor?

If so, what role did they play?

What was their rank or battles they saw?

Yes!!! My great great grandfather! Served in the artillery the whole war!

I havent found all that out yet, Im still doing my research. Need to visit the library.
 

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. You might also consider that war is a shitty solution to conflict resolution.

Saw 1917 last night, almost from the beginning.
.I'd seen it once before from the point when soldier enters the burning town.

I think it was a remarkable story telling since at no time does it leave the heros,
.you are with them every moment
through every ordeal.

..but with each time seeing it the question I am left with is
what happened to the woman and the child.

 

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So were any of your ancestors Confederate Soldiers, Blazor?

If so, what role did they play?

What was their rank or battles they saw?

Yes!!! My great great grandfather! Served in the artillery the whole war!

I havent found all that out yet, Im still doing my research. Need to visit the library.

So What was his Name? Blazor The First?

Maybe I kin track him down with my Expert Research Skills.
 

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...and one should remember that the Confederacy is history.

Has been for 156 years and counting.
History that you faggit assed libtards are bent on erasing. You assholes are the American Taliban.
Oh - hardly
I don't ever seek to erase history

..only to put it in it's proper perspective.
You have a knack of warping perspective butt!?


All the kids love that one
but seriously

if one sees these things in the spirit of human evolution
leaving them behind doesn't hurt so bad.

 

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Hold on to your wallet.
...and one should remember that the Confederacy is history.

Has been for 156 years and counting.
History that you faggit assed libtards are bent on erasing. You assholes are the American Taliban.
Oh - hardly
I don't ever seek to erase history

..only to put it in it's proper perspective.
You have a knack of warping perspective butt!?


All the kids love that one
but seriously

if one sees these things in the spirit of human evolution
leaving them behind doesn't hurt so bad.


 

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So were any of your ancestors Confederate Soldiers, Blazor?

If so, what role did they play?

What was their rank or battles they saw?

Yes!!! My great great grandfather! Served in the artillery the whole war!

I havent found all that out yet, Im still doing my research. Need to visit the library.

So What was his Name? Blazor The First?

Maybe I kin track him down with my Expert Research Skills.
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I should buy a gun for Confederate Month!!!

Were your ancestors Confederates too, Lokmeer?!

Sre seems like it!

Man...you sing for the Stars n Bars thru n thru.
Before Trump, I used to say Jefferson Davis was my President! My peeps all came here AFTER 1880.

...so were you descended from any Confederate Ancestors?

Or did the Fight for the Blue Side?
 

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Anyways...the CSA is jes history now.

Instead of getting worked up about it,
People should git over it and see it as some historical context

I was thinkin this thread should be about the Good & the Bad aspects about it.

Teh Confederacy gets so much flack about its slave holding past, and yet these civilizations we call 'Great' had significantly more of it goin' on and likely a lot more depraved than the Confederacy.

ie - Ancient Egypt, Rome and Ancient Greece just some examples.

For better wor worse, this thread should be about what it was like to live back then.
 

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I should buy a gun for Confederate Month!!!

Were your ancestors Confederates too, Lokmeer?!

Sre seems like it!

Man...you sing for the Stars n Bars thru n thru.
Before Trump, I used to say Jefferson Davis was my President! My peeps all came here AFTER 1880.

...so were you descended from any Confederate Ancestors?

Or did the Fight for the Blue Side?
Are you retarded?

Oh I think it's kkinda interesting.

ie - the descendants of Jesse James are still around.
Apparently, He was a Confederate soldier and outlaw.
But one of his descendants became a judge - on the opposite side of the law.

So are the descendants of Jefferson Davis - whom I think live in Colorado today.

It's just History, nothin to get worked up about.
 

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I should buy a gun for Confederate Month!!!

Were your ancestors Confederates too, Lokmeer?!

Sre seems like it!

Man...you sing for the Stars n Bars thru n thru.
Before Trump, I used to say Jefferson Davis was my President! My peeps all came here AFTER 1880.

...so were you descended from any Confederate Ancestors?

Or did the Fight for the Blue Side?
Are you retarded?

Oh I think it's kkinda interesting.

ie - the descendants of Jesse James are still around.
Apparently, He was a Confederate soldier and outlaw.
But one of his descendants became a judge - on the opposite side of the law.

So are the descendants of Jefferson Davis - whom I think live in Colorado today.

It's just History, nothin to get worked up about.
I agree, however, my relatives arrived after 1880. That was after the civil war.
 

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I should buy a gun for Confederate Month!!!

Were your ancestors Confederates too, Lokmeer?!

Sre seems like it!

Man...you sing for the Stars n Bars thru n thru.
Before Trump, I used to say Jefferson Davis was my President! My peeps all came here AFTER 1880.

...so were you descended from any Confederate Ancestors?

Or did the Fight for the Blue Side?
Are you retarded?

Oh I think it's kkinda interesting.

ie - the descendants of Jesse James are still around.
Apparently, He was a Confederate soldier and outlaw.
But one of his descendants became a judge - on the opposite side of the law.

So are the descendants of Jefferson Davis - whom I think live in Colorado today.

It's just History, nothin to get worked up about.
I agree, however, my relatives arrived after 1880. That was after the civil war.

...they missed the fun!
 
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. You might also consider that war is a shitty solution to conflict resolution.

Saw 1917 last night, almost from the beginning.
.I'd seen it once before from the point when soldier enters the burning town.

I think it was a remarkable story telling since at no time does it leave the heros,
.you are with them every moment
through every ordeal.

..but with each time seeing it the question I am left with is
what happened to the woman and the child.



I agree that war is a shitty solution, but sometimes things are unavoidable.

The South did not want to go to war, we wanted to be left alone. Lincoln wanted to force the South back into the Union cause "me money!".

Cool, is 1917 on a streaming service?
 
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So were any of your ancestors Confederate Soldiers, Blazor?

If so, what role did they play?

What was their rank or battles they saw?

Yes!!! My great great grandfather! Served in the artillery the whole war!

I havent found all that out yet, Im still doing my research. Need to visit the library.

So What was his Name? Blazor The First?

Maybe I kin track him down with my Expert Research Skills.

Im not posting his name on here lol.

Perhaps I'll post his pic at least this month.

Farthest I can trace my roots back is 1792.
 
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Jesus, Blazor. Chillax.

Im only beginning lol. I made 10 pages of information last year on another board lol.

Just doing my duty, and spreading informative history lessons from the time.
 
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I should buy a gun for Confederate Month!!!

Do it!

We stocked up down here lol.

People ask, "why do people have so many guns, cant shoot 'em all". Well they might be for family and friends who decided not to stock up when the shit hits the fan.