In Memory Of The Singing Nun, Marie Jeanine Deckers

[Admin.]

On this day in ’85, the Singing Nun (Marie Jeanine Deckers) took her own life in a suicide pact with her life-partner, Annie Pecher. Her song, the 1963 smash ‘Dominique’, sold over 1.5 million copies, winning a Grammy Award for Best Gospel Song. As a kid, I remember Deckers and her 3 fellow nuns appearing on Ed Sullivan… The song was such a cultural phenom that a (mostly fictional) feel-good movie was made of her life with Debbie Reynolds, and Sally Fields’ ‘The Flying Nun’ was definitely influenced by Decker’s popularity. Deckers was a Belgian singer-songwriter and a member of the Dominican Order as Sister Luc Gabriel. An unlikely pop star, she wrote 4 albums of songs - many that were lyrically either ‘approved’ or ‘censored’ by her Mother Superior. She was not allowed to write any songs that were considered ‘sad’ and, of course, any topic that was controversial was forbidden. When she wrote a song in 1967 defending the use of contraception, the Church presurred her touring mngmnt to cancel an entire tour even tho’ she’d left the order by then. Though the royalty agreement between the Church and Deckers was never disclosed, apparently her diocese received her royalties w/o her knowledge… and later, when she left the order, she discovered $100,000. had been paid to the Church unbeknownst to her. To make matters worse, her label, Philips, pretty much took the rest - leaving her financially crippled. Though Deckers never ‘came out’ about her sexuality, she spent most of her life with her lover, Annie Pecher, and struggling with financial ruin, Church condemnation, a faltering career, and repression from society in general… Deckers suffered a mental breakdown. Shortly afterwards, she and Pecher took their own lives in their Belgian apartment. For those who discount the damage religion has done for centuries to gay and lesbian people… to those who are, right now, passing legislation to forbid young people from discussing sexuality or even saying the word, ‘gay’… I say, ‘fuck you’. To those (religious or not) who support with words and deeds the acceptance of the LGBT community… I say, ‘thanks’, and may whatever god you worship bless and keep you.

 

[Lokmar]

Sounds like it had a happy ending.

 

[Joe]

On this day in ’85, the Singing Nun (Marie Jeanine Deckers) took her own life in a suicide pact with her life-partner, Annie Pecher. Her song, the 1963 smash ‘Dominique’, sold over 1.5 million copies, winning a Grammy Award for Best Gospel Song. As a kid, I remember Deckers and her 3 fellow nuns appearing on Ed Sullivan… The song was such a cultural phenom that a (mostly fictional) feel-good movie was made of her life with Debbie Reynolds, and Sally Fields’ ‘The Flying Nun’ was definitely influenced by Decker’s popularity. Deckers was a Belgian singer-songwriter and a member of the Dominican Order as Sister Luc Gabriel. An unlikely pop star, she wrote 4 albums of songs - many that were lyrically either ‘approved’ or ‘censored’ by her Mother Superior. She was not allowed to write any songs that were considered ‘sad’ and, of course, any topic that was controversial was forbidden. When she wrote a song in 1967 defending the use of contraception, the Church presurred her touring mngmnt to cancel an entire tour even tho’ she’d left the order by then. Though the royalty agreement between the Church and Deckers was never disclosed, apparently her diocese received her royalties w/o her knowledge… and later, when she left the order, she discovered $100,000. had been paid to the Church unbeknownst to her. To make matters worse, her label, Philips, pretty much took the rest - leaving her financially crippled. Though Deckers never ‘came out’ about her sexuality, she spent most of her life with her lover, Annie Pecher, and struggling with financial ruin, Church condemnation, a faltering career, and repression from society in general… Deckers suffered a mental breakdown. Shortly afterwards, she and Pecher took their own lives in their Belgian apartment. For those who discount the damage religion has done for centuries to gay and lesbian people… to those who are, right now, passing legislation to forbid young people from discussing sexuality or even saying the word, ‘gay’… I say, ‘fuck you’. To those (religious or not) who support with words and deeds the acceptance of the LGBT community… I say, ‘thanks’, and may whatever god you worship bless and keep you.

I don't like how the Catholic Church handled the residential school issue in Canada & the US involving Native children. That's why I'd never consider converting to them cuz they haven't really progressed since the days of the Inquisition. Still the same old cast of crummy characters. Nice facade which hides a darker reality.

 

[Admin.]

Sounds like it had a happy ending.

GFY.

 

[LotusBud]

WHat a very sad story.

 

[Dove]

First of all was she FORCED to be a fucking nun? The last I checked that is a choice people make on their own. If it was so at odds with her belief system why did she become a nun?

I dont believe in any of the Wicca shit....so you wouldnt see me joining a coven only to be miserable about it and then claim the coven damaged me. I dont believe in a lot of Catholic dogma so the last place you will see me is in the Catholic church on any level. I wouldnt go push myself and my ideas on those people and then blame THEM for damage I did to my own self by joining them.

Did no one tell her what Catholic beliefs were? Becoming a nun was a stupid thing she did that she shouldnt have done. That's on her.

Also stop exploiting and using homosexual people. As a woman who has dated women and the mother of a lesbian daughter FUCK YOU for trying to USE my daughter to justify PLEASE ASS BOX ME! and sexualizing KINDERGARTENERS.

Only fucking perverts and predators think you should be able to discuss masturbation, rim jobs, gender and all adult garbage with 5 to 9 year old students in schools.

I cannot wait until you people realize and see how many gay people and democrat voters you've turned on your cause with this latest bullshit. You could at least read the fucking bill before deciding to use gay people as tools to manipulate allowing the sexualizing of children. I guess reading is too hard.

 

[Joe]

First of all was she FORCED to be a fucking nun? The last I checked that is a choice people make on their own. If it was so at odds with her belief system why did she become a nun?

I dont believe in any of the Wicca shit....so you wouldnt see me joining a coven only to be miserable about it and then claim the coven damaged me. I dont believe in a lot of Catholic dogma so the last place you will see me is in the Catholic church on any level. I wouldnt go push myself and my ideas on those people and then blame THEM for damage I did to my own self by joining them.

Did no one tell her what Catholic beliefs were? Becoming a nun was a stupid thing she did that she shouldnt have done. That's on her.

Also stop exploiting and using homosexual people. As a woman who has dated women and the mother of a lesbian daughter FUCK YOU for trying to USE my daughter to justify PLEASE ASS BOX ME! and sexualizing KINDERGARTENERS.

Only fucking perverts and predators think you should be able to discuss masturbation, rim jobs, gender and all adult garbage with 5 to 9 year old students in schools.

I cannot wait until you people realize and see how many gay people and democrat voters you've turned on your cause with this latest bullshit. You could at least read the fucking bill before deciding to use gay people as tools to manipulate allowing the sexualizing of children. I guess reading is too hard.

I think there are at least as many conservative gay voters as liberal ones @Dove.

At least in Canada gay people who identify with the conservativE party outnumber those who identify as Liberals here.

That actually surprised me.

Tho I think there's a Lotta lgbtq on the far left aka the socialist parties.

 

[Dove]

First of all was she FORCED to be a fucking nun? The last I checked that is a choice people make on their own. If it was so at odds with her belief system why did she become a nun?

I dont believe in any of the Wicca shit....so you wouldnt see me joining a coven only to be miserable about it and then claim the coven damaged me. I dont believe in a lot of Catholic dogma so the last place you will see me is in the Catholic church on any level. I wouldnt go push myself and my ideas on those people and then blame THEM for damage I did to my own self by joining them.

Did no one tell her what Catholic beliefs were? Becoming a nun was a stupid thing she did that she shouldnt have done. That's on her.

Also stop exploiting and using homosexual people. As a woman who has dated women and the mother of a lesbian daughter FUCK YOU for trying to USE my daughter to justify PLEASE ASS BOX ME! and sexualizing KINDERGARTENERS.

Only fucking perverts and predators think you should be able to discuss masturbation, rim jobs, gender and all adult garbage with 5 to 9 year old students in schools.

I cannot wait until you people realize and see how many gay people and democrat voters you've turned on your cause with this latest bullshit. You could at least read the fucking bill before deciding to use gay people as tools to manipulate allowing the sexualizing of children. I guess reading is too hard.

I think there are at least as many conservative gay voters as liberal ones @Dove.

At least in Canada gay people who identify with the conservativE party outnumber those who identify as Liberals here.

That actually surprised me.

Tho I think there's a Lotta lgbtq on the far left aka the socialist parties.

I happen to know there many homosexuals and drag queens and what not who are so fucking fed up with the left it's not even funny. They may not be conservative but they dont want to support the left.

Over shit just like this FL bill. They way the left is responding is just disgusting lies and propaganda protecting child PLEASE ASS BOX ME!.

 

[Dove]

Let me go join a religion that conflicts with my values and then live secretly, rebel against it, and accuse that religion of "damaging me". When I freely joined it.

 

[Admin.]

Let me go join a religion that conflicts with my values and then live secretly, rebel against it, and accuse that religion of "damaging me". When I freely joined it.

Did you know you would end up being a prostitute and heroin junky, before you did?


I grew up going to a Presbyterian Church Church Service, they booted us kidlets out to go to Church School in the basement before the heavy Sermons and stuff, where we sometimes listened to bible stories read to us, and sometimes we just played or did arts and crafts, never once did they teach us little boys that sucking cock was right or wrong, or any of the other bullshit paranoia "You guys" are crying about this week.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Is this thread about a singing nun or is it about pervertry?

 

[Admin.]

Is this thread about a singing nun or is it about pervertry?

Gotcha! It was about exposing you as being a dumb fuck, Congratulations! You are todays winner!

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Is this thread about a singing nun or is it about pervertry?

Gotcha! It was about exposing you as being a dumb fuck, Congratulations! You are todays winner!

Sweet! I never win anything!

 

[Admin.]

Is this thread about a singing nun or is it about pervertry?

Gotcha! It was about exposing you as being a dumb fuck, Congratulations! You are todays winner!

Sweet! I never win anything!

I know.

 

[Joe]

Let me go join a religion that conflicts with my values and then live secretly, rebel against it, and accuse that religion of "damaging me". When I freely joined it.

Anyways it's quite a beautiful song, 'Dominique, Dominique'. One day I'd like to transpose that to Piano & upload it to YouTube, eh?

It's too bad that there was so much sadness behind the song & it's creator was never properly rewarded. Another reason I'd never wanna join the Catholic Church. They've destroyed so many lives.

 

[Admin.]

Let me go join a religion that conflicts with my values and then live secretly, rebel against it, and accuse that religion of "damaging me". When I freely joined it.

Tell us again how solid your sense of self identity was in your teens, K?

 

[Joe]

Here's a piano rendition of that song

 

[Dove]

Let me go join a religion that conflicts with my values and then live secretly, rebel against it, and accuse that religion of "damaging me". When I freely joined it.

Did you know you would end up being a prostitute and heroin junky, before you did?


I grew up going to a Presbyterian Church Church Service, they booted us kidlets out to go to Church School in the basement before the heavy Sermons and stuff, where we sometimes listened to bible stories read to us, and sometimes we just played or did arts and crafts, never once did they teach us little boys that sucking cock was right or wrong, or any of the other bullshit paranoia "You guys" are crying about this week.

I would have ended up a prostitute and a heroin junkie sooner if WHAT? I dont understand this comment. Do you know that I actually never prostituted? I was a stripper on and off for ten years, you could argue that's a form of prostitution.

Let me make this clear that I do not look down on prostitutes. I oppose prostitution. But I do not look down on them or think I am better because i didnt. I understand the dynamics.

I also was not addicted to anything during the entire time I was a stripper. I was a problem drinker at most. I didnt touch drugs for recreational purposes more than a few times...it wasnt something I did. I got addicted to opiates because of medical issues, about 3 years after I "retired" stripping.

And I was vulnerable to addiction due to untreated PTSD.

So could you clarify your first comment? I DID attend a private Pentecostal Christian school that left me with a few issues but I certainly didnt go joining Pentecostals as an adult with autonomy. And if i did do that....and stay in it regardless of knowing i was at odds with that belief system, any damage I received would be damage i directly contributed to.

I'm glad your church didnt incorporate a curriculum that introduced you to sexual topics and issues at the age of 5. Just because that didnt happen to YOU doesnt mean it's not happening NOW. You have no idea what anyone is upset about because you refuse to listen and instead prefer to lie to yourself and say this is just "cons!"(it isnt) who up and decided to get angry over nothing "this week".

Its parents who have been pushing back against this for a few years now and you are only seeing media filtered snippets of a long going battle so you THINK this is just a "weekly" new thing because it's just NOW getting a lot of media attention.

It's as if you guys think that unless the mainstream media is talking about something, it's not happening and not a big deal at all. And when the media talks about it....you just accept their narrative about it. You dont look any deeper.

And you guys cant seem to handle any posts that are longer than a media headline.

 

[Breakfall]

Let me go join a religion that conflicts with my values and then live secretly, rebel against it, and accuse that religion of "damaging me". When I freely joined it.

Did you know you would end up being a prostitute and heroin junky, before you did?


I grew up going to a Presbyterian Church Church Service, they booted us kidlets out to go to Church School in the basement before the heavy Sermons and stuff, where we sometimes listened to bible stories read to us, and sometimes we just played or did arts and crafts, never once did they teach us little boys that sucking cock was right or wrong, or any of the other bullshit paranoia "You guys" are crying about this week.

I would have ended up a prostitute and a heroin junkie sooner if WHAT? I dont understand this comment. Do you know that I actually never prostituted? I was a stripper on and off for ten years, you could argue that's a form of prostitution.

Let me make this clear that I do not look down on prostitutes. I oppose prostitution. But I do not look down on them or think I am better because i didnt. I understand the dynamics.

I also was not addicted to anything during the entire time I was a stripper. I was a problem drinker at most. I didnt touch drugs for recreational purposes more than a few times...it wasnt something I did. I got addicted to opiates because of medical issues, about 3 years after I "retired" stripping.

And I was vulnerable to addiction due to untreated PTSD.

So could you clarify your first comment? I DID attend a private Pentecostal Christian school that left me with a few issues but I certainly didnt go joining Pentecostals as an adult with autonomy. And if i did do that....and stay in it regardless of knowing i was at odds with that belief system, any damage I received would be damage i directly contributed to.

I'm glad your church didnt incorporate a curriculum that introduced you to sexual topics and issues at the age of 5. Just because that didnt happen to YOU doesnt mean it's not happening NOW. You have no idea what anyone is upset about because you refuse to listen and instead prefer to lie to yourself and say this is just "cons!"(it isnt) who up and decided to get angry over nothing "this week".

Its parents who have been pushing back against this for a few years now and you are only seeing media filtered snippets of a long going battle so you THINK this is just a "weekly" new thing because it's just NOW getting a lot of media attention.

It's as if you guys think that unless the mainstream media is talking about something, it's not happening and not a big deal at all. And when the media talks about it....you just accept their narrative about it. You dont look any deeper.

And you guys cant seem to handle any posts that are longer than a media headline.

We all had sex education in elementary school…I think America is just behind the times. Perhaps all the happy-clappers are to blame for the naivety of American children?