Doing drugs with your kids

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My daughter (same one) also shows me the guys like "like" her dating site profile and message her.

She likes to scroll through their profiles with me and we discuss which ones she likes and doesn't like and asks my opinion. She asks my man, too.

His opinions have always been important to her. He has actually been a sort co parent with me since my kids were born.

Our favorite one she was talking too, just told her yesterday that he got serious with another young lady, thanked her for the chats and said it was nice talking, and deleted his profile.

So his runner up is coming to meet us and play Xbox tonight.

She also just started bartending classes and has been bar tending at her job. She is begging me and my man to go up there and let her make us a drink and by God we are gonna do it!

I have a really good relationship with all my daughters but this one....she's had some struggles and has battled severe anxiety all her life. She slept in bed with me from the time she was a baby until she was a teenager and even then she would still crawl into bed with me. To this damn day she will still crawl in bed with me, so long as my man is not in there lol.

When she was little I was telling her one day she's going to have sleep in her own bed and she said "Nope. No way. I'm going to sleep with you forever" and I said "well what about when I'm dead? You'll have to sleep in your own bed then" and looked me right in the eyes and said "Then I'll sleep with your bones". (She was 7 when she said this lol)

She still calls me "mommy". Yes she knows it's weird lol.
 

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Cw is here every day posting about her substance use. There is no point discussing the topic with someone that is probably high. At least, I don't think there is. Stop dragging other people into discussions we are having. It's childish.

The fact is you don't know how I make my decisions on posting at all. You, like many, impart meaning that is in your head that has nothing to do with me.

What is interesting to me is that you post about discussing drugs, etc with your offspring, and have the expectation that everyone should be supportive. Or, that no one should say anything you don't like about the topic.

That is :Crazy:

I'm not dragging anyone else in.

I'm pointing out that you are manufacturing a problem where there isn't one and I'm presenting my evidence.

And you are constantly adding shit in. Going in all these different directions. Like I expect "everyone to be supportive"? What the fuck LOL

I expect people to be able to read and understand what is being said. You project so much into what other people say it becomes something else entirely.

And if you didn't notice? Most everyone who read that post understood it properly. You came in swinging talking about how im teaching my children how to use drugs and compared it to a sex crime. Literally put it on the same level as exposing MINORS to sex entertainment.

You are intentionally ignoring every bit of context here that disrupts this narrative you've crafted that I'm over here selling crack to 4th graders.
 

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It’s like a big ole shit storm came in and left duhhvs werds everywhere LILOL
 

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I mean if you are going to have a problem with the fact that showed my adult daughter with a medical weed card and her two adult friends how I made bongs in the 90s before weed was legal.....fine have a problem. Who cares?

But stop trying to turn it into I'm doing drugs with children or teaching children how to make drug paraphernalia. That is not what happened, that is not what was even said.

Just like you, Lily claiming you return the energy that is brought to you and you don't kow tow to others .....yeah same. I'm going to allow myself to get mean girl mom bullied by someone determined to make something I said sound vastly worse and more perverse than what it actually is, so you can sit there and feel superior.

Not happening. Especially not when other people smoke weed and drink with their adult children and you have excuses over that.
 

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Doing drugs with your kids is just wrong and appalling.

I agree.

I stopped smoking after the first time I realized they were getting old enough to smell it. I was raised by suffer hippies with the large glass ashtray stash and feather roach clip under the coffee table.

Sobriety is the single best thing we can do for ourselves, our children and our generational issues.
 

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I'm not dragging anyone else in.

I'm pointing out that you are manufacturing a problem where there isn't one and I'm presenting my evidence.

And you are constantly adding shit in. Going in all these different directions. Like I expect "everyone to be supportive"? What the fuck LOL

I expect people to be able to read and understand what is being said. You project so much into what other people say it becomes something else entirely.

And if you didn't notice? Most everyone who read that post understood it properly. You came in swinging talking about how im teaching my children how to use drugs and compared it to a sex crime. Literally put it on the same level as exposing MINORS to sex entertainment.

You are intentionally ignoring every bit of context here that disrupts this narrative you've crafted that I'm over here selling crack to 4th graders.

Yes, you do drag people into the discussion. First Murdy and then cw. They have nothing to do with the conversation.

I didn't add anything. I'm addressing your attitude about getting pushback when you post your sordid life story on the forums. You get butthurt and you caused it all yourself.

Most everyone doesn't comment on these posts. Most people here tend to stay out of disputes. The people that agreed with you are also substance users. Do you think I expect them to agree with my point of view? Of course not, and for more than one reason.

As for comparisons with other disgusting parenting, it's these permissive parents that have caused a lot of damage to their own kids that I spent a good part of my career working to address. I witnessed countless kids with bad parents mired in drugs, alcohol, and other big social problems. They're parents seemed to think that what they did wasn't harmful. I saw the negative outcomes.


There is only the narrative you provide and anyone reading your posts over the years know your story. They can't help it, you insist on sharing the crazy shit you've done and then weaving it into some type of nature Earth wholesome mama narrative.

I'm not buying what you're selling, go sell your garbage to the undiscerning.
 

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I mean if you are going to have a problem with the fact that showed my adult daughter with a medical weed card and her two adult friends how I made bongs in the 90s before weed was legal.....fine have a problem. Who cares?

But stop trying to turn it into I'm doing drugs with children or teaching children how to make drug paraphernalia. That is not what happened, that is not what was even said.

Just like you, Lily claiming you return the energy that is brought to you and you don't kow tow to others .....yeah same. I'm going to allow myself to get mean girl mom bullied by someone determined to make something I said sound vastly worse and more perverse than what it actually is, so you can sit there and feel superior.

Not happening. Especially not when other people smoke weed and drink with their adult children and you have excuses over that.

I'm only going to address one issue here to demolish your logic. The rest has be hashed and reshashed.

What excuses have I made for anyone that you say smoke and drink with their adult children?
 

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My daughter (same one) also shows me the guys like "like" her dating site profile and message her.

She likes to scroll through their profiles with me and we discuss which ones she likes and doesn't like and asks my opinion. She asks my man, too.

His opinions have always been important to her. He has actually been a sort co parent with me since my kids were born.

Our favorite one she was talking too, just told her yesterday that he got serious with another young lady, thanked her for the chats and said it was nice talking, and deleted his profile.

So his runner up is coming to meet us and play Xbox tonight.

She also just started bartending classes and has been bar tending at her job. She is begging me and my man to go up there and let her make us a drink and by God we are gonna do it!

I have a really good relationship with all my daughters but this one....she's had some struggles and has battled severe anxiety all her life. She slept in bed with me from the time she was a baby until she was a teenager and even then she would still crawl into bed with me. To this damn day she will still crawl in bed with me, so long as my man is not in there lol.

When she was little I was telling her one day she's going to have sleep in her own bed and she said "Nope. No way. I'm going to sleep with you forever" and I said "well what about when I'm dead? You'll have to sleep in your own bed then" and looked me right in the eyes and said "Then I'll sleep with your bones". (She was 7 when she said this lol)

She still calls me "mommy". Yes she knows it's weird lol.

This belongs in the Dove Diaries and Blogging section of BF, not Meltdown.
 

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I agree.

I stopped smoking after the first time I realized they were getting old enough to smell it. I was raised by suffer hippies with the large glass ashtray stash and feather roach clip under the coffee table.

Sobriety is the single best thing we can do for ourselves, our children and our generational issues.
Hi Murdy

It's a parent's responsibility to set a good example for their kids. Getting stoned with them isn't setting a good example. lol When I was younger that last thing my old man wanted was to light up with me. lol
 

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I'm only going to address one issue here to demolish your logic. The rest has be hashed and reshashed.

What excuses have I made for anyone that you say smoke and drink with their adult children?

She has no fucking clue what she is talking about.
 

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Hi Murdy

It's a parent's responsibility to set a good example for their kids. Getting stoned with them isn't setting a good example. lol When I was younger that last thing my old man wanted was to light up with me. lol

I get it… I did not want to pass that on either.
 

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I'm only going to address one issue here to demolish your logic. The rest has be hashed and reshashed.

What excuses have I made for anyone that you say smoke and drink with their adult children?

So you didn't just say you didn't say anything to CW because she's always high anyway?

You didn't say that?

FYI....I don't care at all that she smokes with her son. I don't think it's a problem at all.

Just pointing out that you are creating a problem because you have a personal issue with me.
 

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So you didn't just say you didn't say anything to CW because she's always high anyway?

You didn't say that?

FYI....I don't care at all that she smokes with her son. I don't think it's a problem at all.

Just pointing out that you are creating a problem because you have a personal issue with me.

What excuse did I make for her? It's not excuse for her, it's an explanation for why I wouldn't bother.

Do you make it a practice to talk to drunk and/or high people about their drinking/getting high?

I don't. And I'm not changing that for some stupid discussion point by a whackjob on this or any forum.
 

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I agree.

I stopped smoking after the first time I realized they were getting old enough to smell it. I was raised by suffer hippies with the large glass ashtray stash and feather roach clip under the coffee table.

Sobriety is the single best thing we can do for ourselves, our children and our generational issues.



Why you lying, fatso? I read text messages where you were actually bragging about smoking with your kids. Over there acting like you’re above it. You fucked up excuse for a fat degenerate.
 
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I always found CW to be singularly objective. Unlike you who confuses bilateralism with the uniformed unilateralism of a goose stepping moron, with the intellectual quotient of a goose wearing a pair of size 9, 12 high Doc's on a forgotten YouTube channel.

Apart from that your opinion is always welcome.

How is Dove by the way, I hope she is not too close to her own Younger Dryas.


Piss off, cocksucker. Don’t make me drag your Jew ass into Gaza.
 

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Why you lying, fatso? I read text messages where you were actually bragging about smoking with your kids. Over there acting like you’re above it. You fucked up excuse for a fat degenerate.
Lie? Like being 42 for the last 15 years? Sorry Erica, your ass got too fat for porn.
 

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Instead of commenting on what other parents do, I thought I would share my instinctual parenting choices.

I had the perfect platonic family. A husband with a budding career in the military and a beautiful daughter and handsome son. I was “lucky” to anyone looking at the photographs of my family and who wasn’t aware of what was actually young on in my marriage.

I didn’t want to be my children’s friends. My theory is that you have enough friends in life. You only get 2 parents.

I also looked at the lives of the people around me. My mother was a party girl and started drinking when she was 15. Dealing with my mother and her emotional issues is like dealing with a 15 year old child sometimes.

My father was just as bad except I had a very strong connection with him that to this day I still find myself embraced by. It’s nice, but he was also a son of a bitch at times especially if he had been drinking.

My parents were 17 and 15 when they started dating and the relationship was tumultuous and toxic. I watched them horrifically navigate our family imploring the same emotional disfunction as the generation before them… only this time they were less responsible and more narcissistic.

Someone who is active in their addiction does not think clearly. They cannot make good decisions for themselves let alone anyone else. It’s a vicious cycle of getting drunk or high…. And that is their main priority as life marches on.

It’s sad how little they accomplished during their 9 year marriage given how strong their love started. The damage they caused is irrefutable. I simply wanted more for myself and my children.

As for a gravity bong…

I don’t know that I would have shared and ultimately encouraged an adolescent to do this mostly because their brain does not fully develop until age 25-30.