Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members

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on Monday issued preemptive pardons to potential targets of the incoming Trump administration, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, retired Gen. Mark Milley and lawmakers who served on the House Jan. 6 Committee.

"Our nation relies on dedicated, selfless public servants every day. They are the lifeblood of our democracy," Biden said in a statement just hours before President-elect
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is sworn into office.

"Yet alarmingly, public servants have been subjected to ongoing threats and intimidation for faithfully discharging their duties," Biden added.

Trump in his 2024 campaign repeatedly vowed "retribution" on his political enemies, specifically singling out lawmakers like Liz Cheney who investigated the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump said Cheney and other committee members should be put in jail.

Milley, who retired as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 2023, has long been a target of Republican attacks over the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Fauci, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has been a lightning rod for criticism over the federal government's response to the coronavirus pandemic.

Milley put out a statement shortly after Biden's announcement.

"My family and I are deeply grateful for the President’s action today," he said. "After forty-three years of faithful service in uniform to our Nation, protecting and defending the Constitution, I do not wish to spend whatever remaining time the Lord grants me fighting those who unjustly might seek retribution for perceived slights. I do not want to put my family, my friends, and those with whom I served through the resulting distraction, expense, and anxiety."

"It has been an honor and a privilege to serve our great country in uniform for over four decades, and I will continue to keep faith and loyalty to our nation and Constitution until my dying breath," Milley added.

Fauci told ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent Jonathan Karl he accepted the pardon and is grateful for it.

"I really truly appreciate the action President Biden has taken today on my behalf," Fauci said. "Let me be perfectly clear, Jon, I have committed no crime, you know that, and there are no possible grounds for any allegation or threat of criminal investigation or prosecution of me."

But Fauci said the threats and possibility of prosecution "creates immeasurable and intolerable distress on me and my family."

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in early December that Biden was considering such an action, days after he issued a full pardon for his son, Hunter Biden. In an exit interview with USA Today earlier this month, Biden signaled he was still wrestling with the decision.

Some Democrats argued against preemptive pardons, including Sen. Adam Schiff, who served on the House Jan. 6 committee.

"The precedent of giving blanket pardons, preemptive blanket pardons on the way out of an administration, I think is a precedent we don't want to set," Schiff
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in December.

the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

"I believe in the rule of law, and I am optimistic that the strength of our legal institutions will ultimately prevail over politics," Biden said. "But these are exceptional circumstances, and I cannot in good conscience do nothing. Baseless and politically motivated investigations wreak havoc on the lives, safety, and financial security of targeted individuals and their families."

"That is why I am exercising my authority under the Constitution to pardon General Mark A. Milley, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the Members of Congress and staff who served on the Select Committee, and the U.S. Capitol and D.C. Metropolitan police officers who testified before the Select Committee," he said. "The issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense. Our nation owes these public servants a debt of gratitude for their tireless commitment to our country."

Harry Dunn, a former Capitol Police officer, said he was "eternally grateful" to Biden for the action but also for his leadership.

"I wish this pardon weren't necessary, but unfortunately, the political climate we are in now has made the need for one somewhat of a reality. I, like all of the other public servants, was just doing my job and upholding my oath, and I will always honor that," Dunn said.
 
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So, isn't Biden admitting they were criminals by pardoning them?

Meh, who gives a fuck, this is a clown shit show.
No he's not admitting anything. They aren't criminals, they were public servants doing their duty and they were going to have their lives ruined for doing so. A pre-emptive pardon simply means they aren't admitting to anything, since there have been no charges, and there won't be any charges since they've been pardoned. Pretty straight forward.

Jan 6th was real. Trump is a convicted felon. These people won't have their lives disrupted over his infantile "revenge tour".

Removing the wind from the sail was the perfect move. Fuck Trump and his bullshit.
 

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No he's not admitting anything. They aren't criminals, they were public servants doing their duty and they were going to have their lives ruined for doing so. A pre-emptive pardon simply means they aren't admitting to anything, since there have been no charges, and there won't be any charges since they've been pardoned. Pretty straight forward.

Jan 6th was real. Trump is a convicted felon. These people won't have their lives disrupted over his infantile "revenge tour".

Removing the wind from the sail was the perfect move. Fuck Trump and his bullshit.
They’re fucking traitors you faggot
 

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No he's not admitting anything. They aren't criminals, they were public servants doing their duty and they were going to have their lives ruined for doing so. A pre-emptive pardon simply means they aren't admitting to anything, since there have been no charges, and there won't be any charges since they've been pardoned. Pretty straight forward.

Jan 6th was real. Trump is a convicted felon. These people won't have their lives disrupted over his infantile "revenge tour".

Removing the wind from the sail was the perfect move. Fuck Trump and his bullshit.
Dave Chappelle made an appeal to him to be a great leader and not be petty. In vain, imo.

Being petty is part of Dump's core personality.
 
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Some eyes are going to get opened very quickly in the coming days.

I can't imagine we'll just sit back and say "please oh great and wonderful Trump take it all"
 

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Some eyes are going to get opened very quickly in the coming days.

I can't imagine we'll just sit back and say "please oh great and wonderful Trump take it all"
I wonder sometimes.

Last week in the Central Valley they started rounding up undocumented ag workers that prune orchard trees and grapes this time of the year. They also hit dairies.

They were taken to Calexico, processed for deportation and then released back into Calexico.

The price of groceries will go up if he continues the round ups ICE already started.

Central Valley farmers are going to feel the pain. Being Trump supporters they deserve what's coming. He told them what he was going to do. They voted for him regardless.
 

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A "pre-emptive pardon" shouldn't even be a thing. This does signal that Biden expects these people to be charged, credibly, and probably convicted. I don't know if this is obstruction of justice in the technical legal sense, but it sure as hell is so in practice.
 

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Public sector personnel shouldn't be charged with "crimes" for doing their jobs.

It's just an attempt by the oligarchy to destroy American institutions so they have no one to stop them from sucking America dry.
 

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I wonder sometimes.

Last week in the Central Valley they started rounding up undocumented ag workers that prune orchard trees and grapes this time of the year. They also hit dairies.

They were taken to Calexico, processed for deportation and then released back into Calexico.

The price of groceries will go up if he continues the round ups ICE already started.

Central Valley farmers are going to feel the pain. Being Trump supporters they deserve what's coming. He told them what he was going to do. They voted for him regardless.
Are there many programs for workers to be brought in legally? To fill the void
 

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Theoretically. But they might have to bring them from another country.

Mexico won't take this lightly. Sheinbaum is pretty feisty and level-headed.
I assume legally brought in ones get paid more?
 
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Anyone that thinks those would be legit investigations is the reason for the pre emptive pardons to begin with.
 

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I don't know to be honest. I think they may cost more because they have to house them.
Honestly I would think so many would apply to be brought in legally that there would be no demand for illegal ones, it must be a $$ thing
 
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on Monday issued preemptive pardons to potential targets of the incoming Trump administration, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, retired Gen. Mark Milley and lawmakers who served on the House Jan. 6 Committee.

"Our nation relies on dedicated, selfless public servants every day. They are the lifeblood of our democracy," Biden said in a statement just hours before President-elect
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is sworn into office.

"Yet alarmingly, public servants have been subjected to ongoing threats and intimidation for faithfully discharging their duties," Biden added.

Trump in his 2024 campaign repeatedly vowed "retribution" on his political enemies, specifically singling out lawmakers like Liz Cheney who investigated the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump said Cheney and other committee members should be put in jail.

Milley, who retired as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 2023, has long been a target of Republican attacks over the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Fauci, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has been a lightning rod for criticism over the federal government's response to the coronavirus pandemic.

Milley put out a statement shortly after Biden's announcement.

"My family and I are deeply grateful for the President’s action today," he said. "After forty-three years of faithful service in uniform to our Nation, protecting and defending the Constitution, I do not wish to spend whatever remaining time the Lord grants me fighting those who unjustly might seek retribution for perceived slights. I do not want to put my family, my friends, and those with whom I served through the resulting distraction, expense, and anxiety."

"It has been an honor and a privilege to serve our great country in uniform for over four decades, and I will continue to keep faith and loyalty to our nation and Constitution until my dying breath," Milley added.

Fauci told ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent Jonathan Karl he accepted the pardon and is grateful for it.

"I really truly appreciate the action President Biden has taken today on my behalf," Fauci said. "Let me be perfectly clear, Jon, I have committed no crime, you know that, and there are no possible grounds for any allegation or threat of criminal investigation or prosecution of me."

But Fauci said the threats and possibility of prosecution "creates immeasurable and intolerable distress on me and my family."

ABC News
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in early December that Biden was considering such an action, days after he issued a full pardon for his son, Hunter Biden. In an exit interview with USA Today earlier this month, Biden signaled he was still wrestling with the decision.

Some Democrats argued against preemptive pardons, including Sen. Adam Schiff, who served on the House Jan. 6 committee.

"The precedent of giving blanket pardons, preemptive blanket pardons on the way out of an administration, I think is a precedent we don't want to set," Schiff
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in December.

the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

"I believe in the rule of law, and I am optimistic that the strength of our legal institutions will ultimately prevail over politics," Biden said. "But these are exceptional circumstances, and I cannot in good conscience do nothing. Baseless and politically motivated investigations wreak havoc on the lives, safety, and financial security of targeted individuals and their families."

"That is why I am exercising my authority under the Constitution to pardon General Mark A. Milley, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the Members of Congress and staff who served on the Select Committee, and the U.S. Capitol and D.C. Metropolitan police officers who testified before the Select Committee," he said. "The issuance of these pardons should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment that any individual engaged in any wrongdoing, nor should acceptance be misconstrued as an admission of guilt for any offense. Our nation owes these public servants a debt of gratitude for their tireless commitment to our country."

Harry Dunn, a former Capitol Police officer, said he was "eternally grateful" to Biden for the action but also for his leadership.

"I wish this pardon weren't necessary, but unfortunately, the political climate we are in now has made the need for one somewhat of a reality. I, like all of the other public servants, was just doing my job and upholding my oath, and I will always honor that," Dunn said.


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I see it as plausible that this 'pre-emptive pardon' business will be legally challenged and said pardons nullified on the basis that a pardon isn't intended to be applied as 'immunity from future prosecution.'

It might not. Trump would likely use it as well with the tools he's surrounded with.