Could Trump be forced to resign over the Epstein Scandal?

[wizer]

Trump entered his worst financial difficulties in the early 90’s. He Bankrupted Trump Taj Mahal in ‘91 & Trump Plaza Hotel in ‘92. He was accused of raping his wife in ‘89. Their divorce finalized in ‘92.
During the bankruptcy he paid off $23 million to the parents of these known accusers, ages 10-12:

Kelly Feuer, 12 Yr: ‘89- $1 million
Michael Parker, 10 Yr: ‘92-$3 million
Charles Bacon, 11 Yr: ‘94-$3 million
Maria Olivera, 12 Yr: ‘94-$16 million

Later, these accusations came in which he may have settled but this is TBD:

Katie Johnson, 13 Yr: ‘94-Status Unknown
Jane Doe, 14 Yr: ‘94 Jane-Status Unknown (via Jacqueline Sweet)

Trump met Epstein in 1989. Of course, there may be MANY other victims who have been paid off or otherwise silenced. In an earlier post I suggested that “at least” 3 children had made credible accusations against Trump. After a little more digging, I realize the number is actually SIX children age 10-14 in the course of 5 years. And yes, Megyn Kelly, people age 10-14 ARE children. I have to say, if you pay a family millions for their silence, it’s fair to say the claim likely has merit so I have included the two cases where Trump was accused of raping 2 boys.

Everything you wrote there is all about accusations.

Newsflash. Rich people are subject to bogus lawsuits all the time by people who are after one thing.

Guess what that is.

 

[Joe]

Everything you wrote there is all about accusations.

Newsflash. Rich people are subject to bogus lawsuits all the time by people who are after one thing.

Guess what that is.

I don't think those accusations about Trump molesting underage girls are fake tho @wizer

 

[wizer]

I don't think those accusations about Trump molesting underage girls are fake tho @wizer

It's entirely speculation and baseless accusations until and unless proven in a court of law.

That much said, I'm not saying he didn't do any of it. He seems like the type that would try to get away with anything just because he thinks he can.

But again unless proven, it won't hurt him all that much after it blows over.

 

[Admin.]

Why is he now fighting against the release of the Epstein files? Why was he for disclosure before he was against it?

 

[wizer]

Why is he now fighting against the release of the Epstein files? Why was he for disclosure before he was against it?

Because clearly he has something to hide.

You're not really this clueless, right?

 

[The Question]

Nope, he couldn't. Put your pecker away and stow the weasel grease.

 

[Admin.]

There will be no death blow by a complete and unredacted release of the files, don’t be naive. They have worked for months meticulously scrubbing and sanitizing them and we will not know what is contained in them until after the pig is dead or out of office, if even then. BUT.. there is a graveyard of smoking guns and a plethora of evidence that is already known that will lead to a death of a thousand cuts. His base is rattled and the foundation that held up his MAGA cult is mush, a crumbling and decaying base that can no longer sustain the weight of his lies, bigotry, misogyny, deceit, and hate. If anything the recent release of files and emails has done, it’s erase the doubt in the sycophantic, spineless, boot lickers in Congress that would have enabled this jackoff to rig future elections. Self preservation is what has kept these scumbags by his side and that same self preservation is now telling them to RUN, to distance themselves from this trainwreck. His base has eroded and now all he has to stand on is his miserable policies that have failed at every turn. We will never get the joy of seeing this career conman and grifter being lead out of OUR house in shackles as he should be, but a year from now once the midterms have completely flipped the House and Senate we will see a lame duck ! No longer will he be praised by the obsequious media that have failed so miserably at their jobs to question him and call him out for his fascist regime. No more MAGA crowds touring around the country like Dead Heads to see the delusional greatest hits of a feeble old man stumbling over his words. Just a weak and pathetic shell of a man who thought he was king, but was never anything more than a jester… and a shitty one at that.


His Congressional and MAGA support is unwinding

 

[MrNiceGuy]

I'm starting to wonder...



It may be that many Republicans had already grown tired of Trump & the Epstein affair is just an excuse to get rid of him.

Maybe some think he gave them their tax cut, fired much of the civil service & passed the Genius Act for Crypto Investors so perhaps there is not much else major left for him to do.

Plus with Republican poll numbers underwater might make sense to get rid of Trump before next year's midterm elections. Also the tariff plan hasn't gone as smoothly and its adversely affecting districts and supporters who voted for Trump.

Just a thought. But I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump being forced to step down & the ones doing it to him might end up being Republican party insiders.

Just an opinion. feel free to agree or disagree & state your own pov.

If it comes to light Trump did stuff on that island... he's done.

And it would be a blessing in disguise to the entire Republican party as they could easily leave him behind without needing any other excuse.

Populism on either side isn't good. We need meat & potatoes. We need teamwork across the aisle. Not empty rhetoric & endless division.

Politics isn't meant to be like sports. Sports is for entertainment. This is real life and how it affects each & every one of us.

People in both parties & independents who do their jobs without pomp & circumstance are the true heroes to democracy.

I for one am tired of the fluff.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Trump sure as hell killed Epstein himself, but he can't seem to kill the scandal.

You know this is funny you think Epstein didn't kill himself.

I was just watching a clip of right leaning Steven Crowder and he also thinks Epstein didn't kill himself.

Politics makes strange bedfellows, I guess.

I tend to lean towards logic unless there is a big gotcha moment to make me change my mind. I'm not a fan of consipiracy theories.

The most simple explanation is most likely the truth.

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line & I'm way too lazy to meander unless I see a really compelling reason.

I think Epstein killed himself unless some big new info ever comes out.

Same as Tyler Robinson acted alone in assassinating Charlie Kirk because Mossad?

LOL NO.

 

[LotusBud]

You know this is funny you think Epstein didn't kill himself.

I was just watching a clip of right leaning Steven Crowder and he also thinks Epstein didn't kill himself.

Politics makes strange bedfellows, I guess.

I tend to lean towards logic unless there is a big gotcha moment to make me change my mind. I'm not a fan of consipiracy theories.

The most simple explanation is most likely the truth.

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line & I'm way too lazy to meander unless I see a really compelling reason.

I think Epstein killed himself unless some big new info ever comes out.

Same as Tyler Robinson acted alone in assassinating Charlie Kirk because Mossad?

LOL NO.

I'm sorry to disillusion you, but the truth does NOT always take the simplest path. I also believe in logic. Epstein was in a FEDERAL prison when Trump was president. Trump had a long and COMPLEX history with Epstein, and HIRED the judge who gave Epstein his sweetheart deal in Florida. Epstein had dirt on many powerful people. Epstein "hired" Virginia Guiffre, the person who made this whole Epstein thing public, from Mar A Lago. Guiffre has also "committed suicide." Both guards on duty when Epstein "killed himself" fell asleep AND the video wasn't working? BULL SHIT.

I have no opinions about who killed Charlie Kirk. But Epstein? He didn't off himself.

 

[Admin.]

I'm sorry to disillusion you, but the truth does NOT always take the simplest path. I also believe in logic. Epstein was in a FEDERAL prison when Trump was president. Trump had a long and COMPLEX history with Epstein, and HIRED the judge who gave Epstein his sweetheart deal in Florida. Epstein had dirt on many powerful people. Epstein "hired" Virginia Guiffre, the person who made this whole Epstein thing public, from Mar A Lago. Guiffre has also "committed suicide." Both guards on duty when Epstein "killed himself" fell asleep AND the video wasn't working? BULL SHIT.

I have no opinions about who killed Charlie Kirk. But Epstein? He didn't off himself.

Why was a 16 year old Virginia working as a “masseuse” at Mar A Lago in the first place?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Oh. I'm starring to wonder as your country gets closer to next year's midterms if Trump will be perceived more as a liability than an asset, particularly if the economy doesn't pick up for most Americans @wizer

How would you feel about the possibility of a President JD Vance?

Is this a remote possibility ?

Or are Republicans terrified that it could become a reality & he couldn't keep the tent together ?

Unfortunately if Trump is gone, dems will just start calling Vance, Hitler junior or something. Because they HATE anything associated with Trump.

They are a proven broken record skipping the same spoutings over & over like an old Choose Your Own Adventure Which Way book where we are caught in a time loop going back & forth between the same two pages.

These people really need better material.

At least I have a sense of humor... even when it comes to politics; because being a stick in the mud means you ain't going nowhere unless you can find humor in all this bullshit.

If you can't even do that, then you're really pretty miserable & even though misery loves company... it's only drawing fellow miserable company to echo the parroting.

 

[The Question]

Democrats vehemently despise democracy.

 

[LotusBud]

Unfortunately if Trump is gone, dems will just start calling Vance, Hitler junior or something. Because they HATE anything associated with Trump.

They are a proven broken record skipping the same spoutings over & over like an old Choose Your Own Adventure Which Way book where we are caught in a time loop going back & forth between the same two pages.

These people really need better material.

At least I have a sense of humor... even when it comes to politics; because being a stick in the mud means you ain't going nowhere unless you can find humor in all this bullshit.

If you can't even do that, then you're really pretty miserable & even though misery loves company... it's only drawing fellow miserable company to echo the parroting.

Actually I hate anyone who is a crazy right winger with dictatorial tendencies, so yeah, Vance is also a villain.

I have a fantastic sense of humor. It's one of my major identifying qualities with everyone who knows me. But I don't find the humor in political and corporate malfeasance that ruins people's lives and country.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

How do I feel personally about JD Vance being the next (or a future) US President?

I don't really care all that much given that I no longer live in the US, however he wouldn't be my first choice.

When democrats like Michelle Obama say America isn't ready for a female president... what they are really saying is America isn't ready for a democrat female president. Because lord god who art thou in heaven if a female republican became the first female president the democrats would memory hole that shit so fast your head would spin like Regan from The Exorcist.

Also, you don't like Trump. And LotusBud doesn't like Trump.

And here you two are parsing details.

Makes me sad. It's like gamblers not allowing themselves enjoying the game because they are arguing over the points spread.

Let it go.

Like in the 1984 movie Terminator when Sarah Connor is distressed watching the news about another lady also named Sarah Connor being murdered...

 

[LotusBud]

When democrats like Michelle Obama say America isn't ready for a female president... what they are really saying is America isn't ready for a democrat female president. Because lord god who art thou in heaven if a female republican became the first female president the democrats would memory hole that shit so fast your head would spin like Regan from The Exorcist.

Also, you don't like Trump. And LotusBud doesn't like Trump.

And here you two are parsing details.

Makes me sad. It's like gamblers not allowing themselves enjoying the game because they are arguing over the points spread.

Let it go.

Like in the 1984 movie Terminator when Sarah Connor is distressed watching the news about another lady also named Sarah Connor being murdered...

Sorry, what? What details am I parsing that you disapprove of?

Do I have to say this yet again? I am NOT a Democrat. They are the left corporate/war party and Republicans are the right corporate/war party. I am fully opposed to corporate control/influence over the government, and I don't believe war is ever the answer except in cases of self defense. The US has been waging non-defensive wars all over the globe since its inception. Both parties are complicit. It's a money-making and resource-grabbing enterprise, just like Eisenhower warned against.

 

[The Question]

I am NOT a Democrat.

Remember 'Show and Tell' from when you were a kid? What you tell doesn't match what you show. You spew up Democrat bilge -- not just 'non-stop' but 'without variation'.

You're a Democrat. Lie about it all you want, but until your behavior says otherwise, your protestations are irrelevant.

Acta, non verba.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

I'm sorry to disillusion you, but the truth does NOT always take the simplest path. I also believe in logic. Epstein was in a FEDERAL prison when Trump was president. Trump had a long and COMPLEX history with Epstein, and HIRED the judge who gave Epstein his sweetheart deal in Florida. Epstein had dirt on many powerful people. Epstein "hired" Virginia Guiffre, the person who made this whole Epstein thing public, from Mar A Lago. Guiffre has also "committed suicide." Both guards on duty when Epstein "killed himself" fell asleep AND the video wasn't working? BULL SHIT.

I have no opinions about who killed Charlie Kirk. But Epstein? He didn't off himself.

The truth doesn't always take the simplest path but more likely than not it does because more often than not it will because more stats than not it always has.

No offense but you thinking Trump killed Epstein is no different than right leaners who think Hillary Clinton killed Epstein or anyone else for that matter.

I'm not picking up what you're putting down.

Your hate for Trump is driving you. Let jesus take the wheel. Even though jesus doesn't exist it's better to have a nonexistent diety drive than hate.

Ask Cap'n Ahab. I like Cap'n Morgan myself. And Cap'n Obvious is funner too.

 

[Admin.]

 

[Admin.]

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Sorry, what? What details am I parsing that you disapprove of?

Do I have to say this yet again? I am NOT a Democrat. They are the left corporate/war party and Republicans are the right corporate/war party. I am fully opposed to corporate control/influence over the government, and I don't believe war is ever the answer except in cases of self defense. The US has been waging non-defensive wars all over the globe since its inception. Both parties are complicit. It's a money-making and resource-grabbing enterprise, just like Eisenhower warned against.

Well I'm glad we got that out of the way!

But... guess what?

Let's say you see yourself as an Independent.

Republicans don't care if your independent.

Democrats generally hate Independents... because dems call independents "fence sitters" who allow the right to win by not being left enough.

So be aware.

Also, if spending war money should only be for SELF defense.... why are we spending money for Ukraine again?

Or too off topic?

Sorry, I'm going to interject my corpo "seek to understand" here and "assume positive intent", if you do approve of war funding for Ukraine.

Forgive me?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Why was a 16 year old Virginia working as a “masseuse” at Mar A Lago in the first place?

She was a "spa attendant".

So shut it down?

So go after every spa in the USA who hires anyone under 18?

And shut 'em all down?

She applied for this job of her own free will & got it.

So pass a law no spa attendants shall be under the age of 18?

I assume you meant to make a point here or should I file your post under more conspiracy theory vs facts in evidence?

Oh man. Don't make it easy for me to dismiss you because I loved your long ass anti Trump rant. We're in the endgame now.

 

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[Reggie_Essent]

I see @Admin. gie got the latest talking points.

Clearly Trump had all the Epstein material scrubbed of incriminating evidence over the past 10 months even though the vile Democrats had control of all that information throughout the Biden Administration and never leaked the bad Orange Man evidence that has now been scrubbed forever ...

Yeaah, that's totally believable, Mingie.

 

[The Prowler]

Imagine being so stupid that you get fooled by an edited photo in 2025.

You, @Admin. , are a retard.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Actually I hate anyone who is a crazy right winger with dictatorial tendencies, so yeah, Vance is also a villain.

I have a fantastic sense of humor. It's one of my major identifying qualities with everyone who knows me. But I don't find the humor in political and corporate malfeasance that ruins people's lives and country.

So case in point you hate Vance equally despite Admins "NO!" rep on my post saying you guys would hate Vance just as much.

I don't doubt your sense of humor but will attempt to achille's heel if only to drive home my point that humor > politics.

Humans need food. Humans need humor. Going without politics is a luxury we can afford because people fought & died in wars that I'm sorry to break it to you, Lotus... wars that weren't only for self defense.

We as the USA could very easily sit out WWII even after Pearl Harbor as we were never invaded.

So if war is only necessary as self defense.... if we let the world fall to Nazis because it didn't affect our self defense. What does that say about us?

It's like saying I'll only use my gun in self defense.

So I let that women get raped because it wasn't in my self defense to use my gun.

Sorry to push you but a motionless object tends to stay motionless, whereas an object in motion tends to stay in motion.

Don't sit on your beliefs. Challenge them & yourself to move. Forever. And, a day.