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Based Orthodox leader tells some harsh truths
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<blockquote data-quote="Dove" data-source="post: 526113" data-attributes="member: 535"><p>I slightly disagree with both of you. And here is why. </p><p></p><p> While its true that Jesus never singled out homosexuality, He does make it very clear that sexual activity outside of Gods design of marriage and fidelity between man and woman is sinful. </p><p></p><p> It's not just sinful to fornicate. Its sinful to lust. This tells us that our sinful condition is pretty hopeless for us without Christ. The holy standards are impossible. </p><p></p><p> Now when it comes to the NC, we see very clearly people that would have been put to death under the law be redeemed in Christ. He did this in His time on earth. We arent given free pass to sin unrepentantly. But we are given the grace and opportunity to repent of it. </p><p></p><p> So while Lokmar IS correct that the Mosiac law called for the death of homosexuals (mostly back then....men were literally ass raping other men and called sodomites, there is a distinction in scripture). Women turning to other women is also a sin on the hands of MEN. </p><p></p><p> However in the early church.....there were repentant homosexuals who had turned from that and followed Christ. </p><p></p><p> It says in 1 Corinthians 6</p><p></p><p> 7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. (<a href="https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#cen-NKJV-28475D" target="_blank">D</a>)Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather <em>let yourselves</em> be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and <em>you do</em> these things <em>to your</em> brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. (<a href="https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#cen-NKJV-28477E" target="_blank">E</a>)Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [<a href="https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-28477b" target="_blank">b</a>]homosexuals, nor [<a href="https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-28477c" target="_blank">c</a>]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were (<a href="https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#cen-NKJV-28479F" target="_blank">F</a>)some of you. (<a href="https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#cen-NKJV-28479G" target="_blank">G</a>)But you were washed, but you were [<a href="https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-28479d" target="_blank">d</a>]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.</p><p></p><p> That verse 11 is the real climax here. :D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dove, post: 526113, member: 535"] I slightly disagree with both of you. And here is why. While its true that Jesus never singled out homosexuality, He does make it very clear that sexual activity outside of Gods design of marriage and fidelity between man and woman is sinful. It's not just sinful to fornicate. Its sinful to lust. This tells us that our sinful condition is pretty hopeless for us without Christ. The holy standards are impossible. Now when it comes to the NC, we see very clearly people that would have been put to death under the law be redeemed in Christ. He did this in His time on earth. We arent given free pass to sin unrepentantly. But we are given the grace and opportunity to repent of it. So while Lokmar IS correct that the Mosiac law called for the death of homosexuals (mostly back then....men were literally ass raping other men and called sodomites, there is a distinction in scripture). Women turning to other women is also a sin on the hands of MEN. However in the early church.....there were repentant homosexuals who had turned from that and followed Christ. It says in 1 Corinthians 6 7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. ([URL='https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#cen-NKJV-28475D']D[/URL])Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather [I]let yourselves[/I] be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and [I]you do[/I] these things [I]to your[/I] brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. ([URL='https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#cen-NKJV-28477E']E[/URL])Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [[URL='https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-28477b']b[/URL]]homosexuals, nor [[URL='https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-28477c']c[/URL]]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were ([URL='https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#cen-NKJV-28479F']F[/URL])some of you. ([URL='https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#cen-NKJV-28479G']G[/URL])But you were washed, but you were [[URL='https://www-biblegateway-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&interface=amp&search=1%20Corinthians%206&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-28479d']d[/URL]]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. That verse 11 is the real climax here. :D [/QUOTE]
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