Bomb shelters are back

Mr. Whipple

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After the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the era of nuclear nightmares - of the atomic arms race, of backyard bomb shelters, of schoolchildren diving under desks to practice their survival skills in the event of an attack - seemed to finally, thankfully, fade into history.

Until now.

For some baby boomers, North Korea's nuclear advances and President Donald Trump's bellicose response have prompted flashbacks to a time when they were young, and when they prayed each night that they might awaken the next morning. For their children, the North Korean crisis was a taste of what the Cold War was like.

"I'm not concerned to where I can't sleep at night. But it certainly raises alarms for Guam or even Hawaii, where it might be a real threat," said 24-year-old banker Christian Zwicky of San Bernardino, California.

People of his parents' generation were taught to duck and cover when the bombs came. "Maybe those types of drills should come back," Zwicky said.


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He isn't old enough to remember the popular 1950s public service announcement in which a cartoon character named Bert the Turtle teaches kids how to dive under their desks for safety. But Zwicky did see it often enough in high school history classes that he can hum the catchy tune that plays at the beginning. That's when Bert avoids disaster by ducking into his shell, then goes on to explain to schoolchildren what they should do.

"I do remember that," says 65-year-old retiree Scott Paul of Los Angeles. "And also the drop drills that we had in elementary school, which was a pretty regular thing then."
Even as a 10-year-old, Paul said, he wondered how much good ducking under a desk could do if a bomb powerful enough to destroy a city fell nearby. No good at all, his teacher acknowledged.
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when it was learned the Soviets had slipped nuclear-tipped missiles into Cuba and pointed them at the United States.

After a tense, two-week standoff between President John F. Kennedy and Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev that some believe brought the world the closest it's ever come to nuclear war, the missiles were removed and the shelters faded from public interest.

Now they, too, seem to be having a revival.

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"When Trump took office it doubled our sales, and then when he started making crazy statements we got a lot more orders," says Walton McCarthy of Norad Shelter Systems LLC of Garland, Texas. "Between now and a year ago we've quadrupled our sales."
His competitor, California-based Atlas Survival Shelters, says it sold 30 shelters in three days last week. During its first year in business in 2011 it sold only 10.

Bill Miller, a 74-year-old retired film director living in Sherborn, Massachusetts, thinks these days are more nerve-wracking than the standoff in October 1962.
"I think it's much, much crazier, scarier times," he said. "I think the people who were in charge in the Kennedy administration had much more of a handle on it."

Nathan Guerrero, a 22-year-old political science major from Fullerton, California, agrees, saying he learned in history class that the "shining example" of a way to resolve such a conflict was how Kennedy's brother and attorney general, Robert Kennedy, brokered the tense negotiations.

"But knowing the way the current administration has sort of been carrying itself, it doesn't look like they are keen to solving things diplomatically," he said.
"As a young person, honestly, it's pretty unsettling," he continued.

Had he given any thought to building a backyard bomb shelter?

"I'd be lying if I said such crazy things haven't crossed my mind," he said, laughing nervously. "But in reality it doesn't strike me as I'd be ready to go shopping for bunkers yet." Instead, he studies for law school and tries "not to think too much about it."

Other Americans are more sanguine about the possibility of nuclear war. Rob Stapleton has lived in Anchorage, Alaska, since 1975, and he is aware that Alaska has been considered a possible target because it is within reach of North Korean missiles.

"There's been some discussion about it around the beer barrel and I'm sure the United States is taking it seriously, but we're not too concerned around here," he said.

Alaska is so vast and spread out, said Stapleton, that he and his friends can't imagine why North Korea would waste its time attacking The Last Frontier.
"I mean sure you'd be making a statement, but you'd not really be doing any damage."
 

Jeannie

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million dollar fortress - until your neighbor stuffs a flannel shirt in the vent pipe and gets it for free lol
 

TheHaze

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Better to go out with the 1st blast !

If N Korean were to be dumb enough to strike there weather forecast would be something like this- - - - - -

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rigor79

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still cool but i don't see it happening .. they'd better invent tunnels that are detachable and attachable like a space station lodges and dislodges "to be agreed with neighbours if a bomb falls" underground bunkers you can convert to a network of tunnels to connect to the government's kitchens, showers, hospital but you need to cooperate ..
 

Blazor

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still cool but i don't see it happening .. they'd better invent tunnels that are detachable and attachable like a space station lodges and dislodges "to be agreed with neighbours if a bomb falls" underground bunkers you can convert to a network of tunnels to connect to the government's kitchens, showers, hospital but you need to cooperate ..


I see what you are saying about civilians.

Did you know about the 100 some D.U.M.B.s the government/Elite have? They are huge, and connect with magnetic railway systems. The average citizen does not know about these.
 

rigor79

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aye cool. :)
i think i know yes .. it's like the tunnels in the uk .. but they where ww2 and decomissioned i thought .. with hospitals too ..
 

Blazor

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aye cool. :)
i think i know yes .. it's like the tunnels in the uk .. but they where ww2 and decomissioned i thought .. with hospitals too ..

The ones Im talking about are huge, and they have been building them at an incredible pace. These are all mostly newer. The rails travel at Mach 2 or some shit.

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