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<blockquote data-quote="Oerdin" data-source="post: 197448" data-attributes="member: 128">Typical nonsense.&nbsp; Many, many, many states some how get by with taking far less in taxes from their populous compared to my home state (California) yet some how they thrive.&nbsp; There roads are better, their schools aren't complete shit, police actually arrest and jail violent criminals, and in short they just function better.&nbsp; So stuff your nonsense about &quot;burden shifting&quot; when really what California desperately needs is to cut wasteful spending and deregulate as much as possible.Virtually all the tax increases they have passed in the last 20 years went to one thing: Massive corrupt pensions for government employees because unions own politics in California.&nbsp;&nbsp; A friend of mine's father is a retired California Department of Corrections officer and his pension is $165,000 per year and he can even still work part time adding another $80,000-$90,000 per year to his take home pay.&nbsp; That is up to $250,000 per year.Cap all government pensions so that they legally cannot pay more than the median income ($65,000 per year), eliminate all the union requirements on state funding for construction projects (you don't need to pay someone $30 per hour to push a broom, also I worked on several where I got paid around $80 per hour when in the private sector that job gets paid $20-$25 per hour), then I might consider my tax money not being wasted.&nbsp; Until then the answer is no.The waste, corruption, and abuse is just staggering and it is a large part of what is causing California to become a shithole.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oerdin, post: 197448, member: 128"] Typical nonsense. Many, many, many states some how get by with taking far less in taxes from their populous compared to my home state (California) yet some how they thrive. There roads are better, their schools aren't complete shit, police actually arrest and jail violent criminals, and in short they just function better. So stuff your nonsense about "burden shifting" when really what California desperately needs is to cut wasteful spending and deregulate as much as possible. Virtually all the tax increases they have passed in the last 20 years went to one thing: Massive corrupt pensions for government employees because unions own politics in California. A friend of mine's father is a retired California Department of Corrections officer and his pension is $165,000 per year and he can even still work part time adding another $80,000-$90,000 per year to his take home pay. That is up to $250,000 per year. Cap all government pensions so that they legally cannot pay more than the median income ($65,000 per year), eliminate all the union requirements on state funding for construction projects (you don't need to pay someone $30 per hour to push a broom, also I worked on several where I got paid around $80 per hour when in the private sector that job gets paid $20-$25 per hour), then I might consider my tax money not being wasted. Until then the answer is no. The waste, corruption, and abuse is just staggering and it is a large part of what is causing California to become a shithole. [/QUOTE]

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