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<blockquote data-quote="Dove" data-source="post: 311198" data-attributes="member: 535">Well, none of you guys are truly liberals. &nbsp;And if you guys spent anytime actually trying to understand stances outside your own, there could be decent discussions. &nbsp;You're attitude (and it's a left wing attitude) that anyone who disagrees with you never reads books, gets bad info from memes(when its actually Admin who tries to argue with memes) and is generally unenlightened and stupid is total garbage. &nbsp;And believing this and resorting to personal attacks is ironically a sign of low intelligence. &nbsp;You guys spend more time telling people what their own stance is, where you think they get their info, and how much &quot;less&quot; they are than you do explaining your OWN stance and rationally defending it. This elitist hogwash is very old, people are very sick of it, and this point most are taking the attitude of &quot;fuck it. Leave me alone or we will fight&quot;&nbsp; because civil discourse and &quot;democracy&quot; are dying if not already dead. &nbsp;Truly intelligent and open minded people dont have to constantly SAY they are. It shows. And so far actions speak louder than words. An inability to interact with other viewpoints isnt really a sign of open minded intelligence. I wish you guys would brag less and show more.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dove, post: 311198, member: 535"] Well, none of you guys are truly liberals. And if you guys spent anytime actually trying to understand stances outside your own, there could be decent discussions. You're attitude (and it's a left wing attitude) that anyone who disagrees with you never reads books, gets bad info from memes(when its actually Admin who tries to argue with memes) and is generally unenlightened and stupid is total garbage. And believing this and resorting to personal attacks is ironically a sign of low intelligence. You guys spend more time telling people what their own stance is, where you think they get their info, and how much "less" they are than you do explaining your OWN stance and rationally defending it. This elitist hogwash is very old, people are very sick of it, and this point most are taking the attitude of "fuck it. Leave me alone or we will fight" because civil discourse and "democracy" are dying if not already dead. Truly intelligent and open minded people dont have to constantly SAY they are. It shows. And so far actions speak louder than words. An inability to interact with other viewpoints isnt really a sign of open minded intelligence. I wish you guys would brag less and show more. [/QUOTE]

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