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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oerdin" data-source="post: 817940" data-attributes="member: 128">I love it when failures at life wrongly think that everyone else is a failure.  As if making good decisions doesn't result in better outcomes.  Self denial, thrift, and savings by living below your means and working hard pays off.  It always has.  It helps if you make good choices about who to marry, when to have kids, and not being an unstable loser who can't hold a job.  Not to mention getting a 1uality education in a hard science from a good university. I understand why Martini and his brother find this so hard to believe.  We all heard about the deplorable unsanitary conditions in Mongtini's tiny filth filled hovel.</blockquote>