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Murder on the High Seas
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<blockquote data-quote="Holy Holliday !" data-source="post: 1422867" data-attributes="member: 13772"><p>Yes, it is a fundamental principle of international law that it is <strong>unlawful to intentionally kill people on the high seas</strong> without legal justification. The only narrow exceptions generally involve legitimate self-defense against an imminent threat to life or explicit authorization from the UN Security Council.</p><p></p><p>Key Principles of International Law</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Sovereignty and Jurisdiction:</strong> Vessels on the high seas are under the exclusive jurisdiction of their flag state (the country where they are registered). Other nations cannot interfere without specific legal justification, such as well-founded suspicions of piracy or slave trafficking, or if the vessel is stateless.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Use of Force:</strong> International law, particularly international human rights law (IHRL), strictly governs the use of lethal force in law enforcement operations. Lethal force is only permissible when it is strictly unavoidable to protect life from an imminent threat of death or serious injury.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Absence of Armed Conflict:</strong> In the absence of an international or non-international armed conflict, actions are considered law enforcement matters, not acts of war. Premeditated killing outside of an armed conflict is considered murder and subject to prosecution under national and international laws.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Due Process:</strong> Suspected criminals have a right to due process and should be apprehended and prosecuted through legal channels, rather than being subject to summary execution.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Unlawful Actions</p><p>Actions such as destroying a vessel or killing its crew based solely on suspicion of illicit activities (e.g., drug trafficking) without evidence of an imminent threat are considered violations of international law, potentially amounting to extrajudicial killings. Even within an armed conflict, killing survivors or those who are no longer actively participating in hostilities (hors de combat) is a war crime.</p><p>Any nation whose citizen is a victim or perpetrator, or the flag state of the vessel, can assert jurisdiction and prosecute the individuals involved in an unlawful killing on the high seas.</p><p></p><p></p><p>...and here for the second time I ask that the poster of this quote define those very narrow, specific circumstance are (and show the specific and narrow link with the quote in context), and also once again if he understands the distinction between <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">murder</span> and to <span style="color: rgb(41, 105, 176)">kill</span>.</p><p>What I very narrowly, specifically wrote was that murder was illegal.</p><p>Prowler won't answer the question again. Prowler never answers direct questions because he is too unintelligent to do so.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://bastardfactory.net/threads/murder-on-the-high-seas.19429/post-1422453" target="_blank">Yesterday at 2:36 PM</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://bastardfactory.net/posts/1422453/bookmark" target="_blank">Add bookmark</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://bastardfactory.net/threads/murder-on-the-high-seas.19429/post-1422453" target="_blank">#69</a></li> </ul><p><span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">Murder</span> is not lawful in international waters.</p><p>. The End</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Under+international+law+is+it+lawful+to+kill+people+on+the+high+seas+without+showing+proof+of+unlawful+activity&oq=Under+international+law+is+it+lawful+to+kill+people+on+the+high+seas+without+showing+proof+of+unlawful+activity&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCjU0NDA1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBQ8VoTu86Nxh&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank">Google Search</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Holy Holliday !, post: 1422867, member: 13772"] Yes, it is a fundamental principle of international law that it is [B]unlawful to intentionally kill people on the high seas[/B] without legal justification. The only narrow exceptions generally involve legitimate self-defense against an imminent threat to life or explicit authorization from the UN Security Council. Key Principles of International Law [LIST] [*][B]Sovereignty and Jurisdiction:[/B] Vessels on the high seas are under the exclusive jurisdiction of their flag state (the country where they are registered). Other nations cannot interfere without specific legal justification, such as well-founded suspicions of piracy or slave trafficking, or if the vessel is stateless. [*][B]Use of Force:[/B] International law, particularly international human rights law (IHRL), strictly governs the use of lethal force in law enforcement operations. Lethal force is only permissible when it is strictly unavoidable to protect life from an imminent threat of death or serious injury. [*][B]Absence of Armed Conflict:[/B] In the absence of an international or non-international armed conflict, actions are considered law enforcement matters, not acts of war. Premeditated killing outside of an armed conflict is considered murder and subject to prosecution under national and international laws. [*][B]Due Process:[/B] Suspected criminals have a right to due process and should be apprehended and prosecuted through legal channels, rather than being subject to summary execution. [/LIST] Unlawful Actions Actions such as destroying a vessel or killing its crew based solely on suspicion of illicit activities (e.g., drug trafficking) without evidence of an imminent threat are considered violations of international law, potentially amounting to extrajudicial killings. Even within an armed conflict, killing survivors or those who are no longer actively participating in hostilities (hors de combat) is a war crime. Any nation whose citizen is a victim or perpetrator, or the flag state of the vessel, can assert jurisdiction and prosecute the individuals involved in an unlawful killing on the high seas. ...and here for the second time I ask that the poster of this quote define those very narrow, specific circumstance are (and show the specific and narrow link with the quote in context), and also once again if he understands the distinction between [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]murder[/COLOR] and to [COLOR=rgb(41, 105, 176)]kill[/COLOR]. What I very narrowly, specifically wrote was that murder was illegal. Prowler won't answer the question again. Prowler never answers direct questions because he is too unintelligent to do so. [LIST] [*][URL='https://bastardfactory.net/threads/murder-on-the-high-seas.19429/post-1422453']Yesterday at 2:36 PM[/URL] [*][URL='https://bastardfactory.net/posts/1422453/bookmark']Add bookmark[/URL] [*][URL='https://bastardfactory.net/threads/murder-on-the-high-seas.19429/post-1422453']#69[/URL] [/LIST] [COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]Murder[/COLOR] is not lawful in international waters. . The End [URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=Under+international+law+is+it+lawful+to+kill+people+on+the+high+seas+without+showing+proof+of+unlawful+activity&oq=Under+international+law+is+it+lawful+to+kill+people+on+the+high+seas+without+showing+proof+of+unlawful+activity&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCjU0NDA1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBQ8VoTu86Nxh&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8']Google Search[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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