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Murder on the High Seas
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<blockquote data-quote="Holy Holliday !" data-source="post: 1422870" data-attributes="member: 13772"><p>Prowler is having difficulty understanding what murder is.</p><p>Is murder ever legal?</p><p>No, "murder" is legally defined as an <em>unlawful</em> killing with malice, so by definition, murder itself is never legal; however, a killing may be considered legally justified or excusable (<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=justifiable+homicide&oq=is+murder+ever+a+legal+act&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRirAjIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCjEzMDE1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBTdWVKmBfQKv&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfDJrJWkQPHuAy7VV7Yf0Nd-cjYp4Qulxa3QjH6ExF8Zbk-TWzep9sAhmR4QoeUamyfSi_7CyRqAvkgKwisoHmQhu34GpibO1SFu54PNTteXRoCzuK0O2dYQLHbImHWKojbjdoMZIe3UPqQOoBvuUF8HdN2TnRjUZbAa4erxSS7wdlidD_9aBwVwvgQOmrqzZ5435ci3RWXe8QMoSfcqgIg5xpH2QPtmrnMnGC8qLbHr0TieDcbAFeYwvVM8DcsVOBbnneIT_hSUO4xGk3e9vppZ&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwjAtp3tpbeRAxVxEFkFHd5gAdMQgK4QegQIARAC" target="_blank">justifiable homicide</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=excusable+homicide&oq=is+murder+ever+a+legal+act&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRirAjIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCjEzMDE1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBTdWVKmBfQKv&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfDJrJWkQPHuAy7VV7Yf0Nd-cjYp4Qulxa3QjH6ExF8Zbk-TWzep9sAhmR4QoeUamyfSi_7CyRqAvkgKwisoHmQhu34GpibO1SFu54PNTteXRoCzuK0O2dYQLHbImHWKojbjdoMZIe3UPqQOoBvuUF8HdN2TnRjUZbAa4erxSS7wdlidD_9aBwVwvgQOmrqzZ5435ci3RWXe8QMoSfcqgIg5xpH2QPtmrnMnGC8qLbHr0TieDcbAFeYwvVM8DcsVOBbnneIT_hSUO4xGk3e9vppZ&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwjAtp3tpbeRAxVxEFkFHd5gAdMQgK4QegQIARAD" target="_blank">excusable homicide</a>) under specific circumstances, like self-defense, which removes the criminal culpability, making it not murder, but rather a lawful act. Legal exceptions where taking a life isn't murder include <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=self-defense&oq=is+murder+ever+a+legal+act&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRirAjIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCjEzMDE1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBTdWVKmBfQKv&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfDJrJWkQPHuAy7VV7Yf0Nd-cjYp4Qulxa3QjH6ExF8Zbk-TWzep9sAhmR4QoeUamyfSi_7CyRqAvkgKwisoHmQhu34GpibO1SFu54PNTteXRoCzuK0O2dYQLHbImHWKojbjdoMZIe3UPqQOoBvuUF8HdN2TnRjUZbAa4erxSS7wdlidD_9aBwVwvgQOmrqzZ5435ci3RWXe8QMoSfcqgIg5xpH2QPtmrnMnGC8qLbHr0TieDcbAFeYwvVM8DcsVOBbnneIT_hSUO4xGk3e9vppZ&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwjAtp3tpbeRAxVxEFkFHd5gAdMQgK4QegQIARAE" target="_blank">self-defense</a>, defense of others, capital punishment (in some places), and certain euthanasia laws (in specific jurisdictions).</p><p><strong>Why "Murder" is Never Legal</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Definition:</strong> Murder inherently means the <em>unlawful</em> killing of another with "malice aforethought" (evil intent).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Distinction from Homicide:</strong> Homicide (the killing of one person by another) isn't always murder; some homicides are lawful (justifiable/excusable), while murder is always criminal.</li> </ul><p><strong>When a Killing <em>Can</em> Be Legal (Justifiable Homicide)</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Self-Defense:</strong> Using deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious harm to yourself or others.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Defense of Others:</strong> Protecting another person from serious harm.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Law Enforcement:</strong> Police officers using deadly force in the line of duty under strict legal guidelines.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Capital Punishment:</strong> Legal execution in jurisdictions where it's permitted.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Euthanasia:</strong> Legal under specific laws in countries like the Netherlands, Belgium, and certain US states (Oregon, Washington).</li> </ul><p><strong>Key Takeaway:</strong> If a killing is legally permitted, it's classified as justified or excusable homicide, not murder. The moment a killing becomes legally justified, the act ceases to be murder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Holy Holliday !, post: 1422870, member: 13772"] Prowler is having difficulty understanding what murder is. Is murder ever legal? No, "murder" is legally defined as an [I]unlawful[/I] killing with malice, so by definition, murder itself is never legal; however, a killing may be considered legally justified or excusable ([URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=justifiable+homicide&oq=is+murder+ever+a+legal+act&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRirAjIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCjEzMDE1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBTdWVKmBfQKv&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfDJrJWkQPHuAy7VV7Yf0Nd-cjYp4Qulxa3QjH6ExF8Zbk-TWzep9sAhmR4QoeUamyfSi_7CyRqAvkgKwisoHmQhu34GpibO1SFu54PNTteXRoCzuK0O2dYQLHbImHWKojbjdoMZIe3UPqQOoBvuUF8HdN2TnRjUZbAa4erxSS7wdlidD_9aBwVwvgQOmrqzZ5435ci3RWXe8QMoSfcqgIg5xpH2QPtmrnMnGC8qLbHr0TieDcbAFeYwvVM8DcsVOBbnneIT_hSUO4xGk3e9vppZ&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwjAtp3tpbeRAxVxEFkFHd5gAdMQgK4QegQIARAC']justifiable homicide[/URL], [URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=excusable+homicide&oq=is+murder+ever+a+legal+act&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRirAjIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCjEzMDE1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBTdWVKmBfQKv&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfDJrJWkQPHuAy7VV7Yf0Nd-cjYp4Qulxa3QjH6ExF8Zbk-TWzep9sAhmR4QoeUamyfSi_7CyRqAvkgKwisoHmQhu34GpibO1SFu54PNTteXRoCzuK0O2dYQLHbImHWKojbjdoMZIe3UPqQOoBvuUF8HdN2TnRjUZbAa4erxSS7wdlidD_9aBwVwvgQOmrqzZ5435ci3RWXe8QMoSfcqgIg5xpH2QPtmrnMnGC8qLbHr0TieDcbAFeYwvVM8DcsVOBbnneIT_hSUO4xGk3e9vppZ&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwjAtp3tpbeRAxVxEFkFHd5gAdMQgK4QegQIARAD']excusable homicide[/URL]) under specific circumstances, like self-defense, which removes the criminal culpability, making it not murder, but rather a lawful act. Legal exceptions where taking a life isn't murder include [URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=self-defense&oq=is+murder+ever+a+legal+act&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRirAjIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCjEzMDE1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBTdWVKmBfQKv&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&mstk=AUtExfDJrJWkQPHuAy7VV7Yf0Nd-cjYp4Qulxa3QjH6ExF8Zbk-TWzep9sAhmR4QoeUamyfSi_7CyRqAvkgKwisoHmQhu34GpibO1SFu54PNTteXRoCzuK0O2dYQLHbImHWKojbjdoMZIe3UPqQOoBvuUF8HdN2TnRjUZbAa4erxSS7wdlidD_9aBwVwvgQOmrqzZ5435ci3RWXe8QMoSfcqgIg5xpH2QPtmrnMnGC8qLbHr0TieDcbAFeYwvVM8DcsVOBbnneIT_hSUO4xGk3e9vppZ&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwjAtp3tpbeRAxVxEFkFHd5gAdMQgK4QegQIARAE']self-defense[/URL], defense of others, capital punishment (in some places), and certain euthanasia laws (in specific jurisdictions). [B]Why "Murder" is Never Legal[/B] [LIST] [*][B]Definition:[/B] Murder inherently means the [I]unlawful[/I] killing of another with "malice aforethought" (evil intent). [*][B]Distinction from Homicide:[/B] Homicide (the killing of one person by another) isn't always murder; some homicides are lawful (justifiable/excusable), while murder is always criminal. [/LIST] [B]When a Killing [I]Can[/I] Be Legal (Justifiable Homicide)[/B] [LIST] [*][B]Self-Defense:[/B] Using deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious harm to yourself or others. [*][B]Defense of Others:[/B] Protecting another person from serious harm. [*][B]Law Enforcement:[/B] Police officers using deadly force in the line of duty under strict legal guidelines. [*][B]Capital Punishment:[/B] Legal execution in jurisdictions where it's permitted. [*][B]Euthanasia:[/B] Legal under specific laws in countries like the Netherlands, Belgium, and certain US states (Oregon, Washington). [/LIST] [B]Key Takeaway:[/B] If a killing is legally permitted, it's classified as justified or excusable homicide, not murder. The moment a killing becomes legally justified, the act ceases to be murder. [/QUOTE]
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