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<blockquote data-quote="Dove" data-source="post: 292719" data-attributes="member: 535">1. Stand your ground is NOT a &quot;legal loophole&quot;.&nbsp; Its not legal to attack someone, and it's never been illegal for someone to defend themselves. It's actually left wing laws that punish people for defending themselves. &nbsp;2. This article makes me suspicious because it's almost as if they are being intentionally unclear. They completely failed to explain the incident that took place. It said he shot at a grow house. This article is confusing and unclear&nbsp;3. If this man shot an intruder, I absolutely agree that he should not be charged. People getting punished for themselves infuriates me. However, claiming the &quot;stand your ground&quot; self defense isnt &quot;for blacks&quot; is wildly ignorant. Do you think black Americans never defend themselves with fire arms and are perfectly within the boundaries of the law? &nbsp;I mean if you have a narrative in your head, the only things you are going to acknowledge are incidents you can fit into your narrative. Which is what you are doing here. &nbsp;I would like to see something that explains the incident clearly before I start forming an opinion on this.&nbsp; He either shot at a grow house or shot an intruder. I have no idea what happened here based on this article.&nbsp;You are on a forum. A message board. Posting a topic. If you dont want people to discuss it, why bother posting it?&nbsp; &nbsp;Also, since you are so sensitive to laws and issues that you assume are racist, I'm not sure how you just ignore the crime bill and war on drugs and you jump on this article as some confirmation bias that self defense laws are somehow &quot;not for black people&quot;.&nbsp; That's a completely irrational leap.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dove, post: 292719, member: 535"] 1. Stand your ground is NOT a "legal loophole". Its not legal to attack someone, and it's never been illegal for someone to defend themselves. It's actually left wing laws that punish people for defending themselves. 2. This article makes me suspicious because it's almost as if they are being intentionally unclear. They completely failed to explain the incident that took place. It said he shot at a grow house. This article is confusing and unclear 3. If this man shot an intruder, I absolutely agree that he should not be charged. People getting punished for themselves infuriates me. However, claiming the "stand your ground" self defense isnt "for blacks" is wildly ignorant. Do you think black Americans never defend themselves with fire arms and are perfectly within the boundaries of the law? I mean if you have a narrative in your head, the only things you are going to acknowledge are incidents you can fit into your narrative. Which is what you are doing here. I would like to see something that explains the incident clearly before I start forming an opinion on this. He either shot at a grow house or shot an intruder. I have no idea what happened here based on this article. You are on a forum. A message board. Posting a topic. If you dont want people to discuss it, why bother posting it? Also, since you are so sensitive to laws and issues that you assume are racist, I'm not sure how you just ignore the crime bill and war on drugs and you jump on this article as some confirmation bias that self defense laws are somehow "not for black people". That's a completely irrational leap. [/QUOTE]

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