"Tax teh rich!!"

[Dove]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

Why do you liars keep taking more of my fucking money?

They are fighting FOR us, Lok.

You can see that by how they ignore everything people tell them about how these policies actually impact people.

Calling attention to the IRS watching pay pal accounts of everyone who 600 plus in it? Well that's just to make sure the wealthy elite is paying!!!

As if the wealthy hide wealth in Pay Pals. Bitch please. The only people who use Pay Pal are regular fucking people trying to make some extra money on the side......that's who the establishment really wants to stalk and rob.

These people ignore how that eviction prevention bullshit hurt regular people and they literally argued that ONLY wealthy corps rented properties and there are no regular mom and pop landlords. They know damn well that's bullshit and regular working people were hurt financially. They know the lock downs and riots destroyed thousands of regular peoples lives.

It's a completely dishonest and fake "party" that continually helps the wealthy elite, destroys the regular people all while lying and faking being for workers

And everyone knows this, except for the loyalists who are just completely emotionally attached to being against the "righties"

 

[Dove]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

And yet, there is a difference between

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

Why do you liars keep taking more of my fucking money?

Your taxes are inevitably set to rise in dramatic fashion due to your President Biden's ultra expensive infrastructure bill set to become the Law in America soon, Lokmeer.

So Suck it up, Buttercup!

Yep. More people being forced to suffer after an already devastating period so the left can push their expensive green policies that further hurt the people and bail out some more corps while small businesses are just fucked.

Lovely isnt it? Destroy the people fincailly enough while helping corps, they will be more likely to accept authoritarian socailist policies that keep everyone equally poor and the wealthy and powerful even more wealthy and powerful.

 

[Lokmar]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

And yet, there is a difference between

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

Why do you liars keep taking more of my fucking money?

Your taxes are inevitably set to rise in dramatic fashion due to your President Biden's ultra expensive infrastructure bill set to become the Law in America soon, Lokmeer.

So Suck it up, Buttercup!

But you didnt answer my question josephine.....WHY should I ever trust democRATs when they keep telling me they're cutting my taxes and yet keept raising them all my life? I wont ever suck it up but I will keep buying guns and ammo.

 

[Lokmar]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

Why do you liars keep taking more of my fucking money?

They are fighting FOR us, Lok.

You can see that by how they ignore everything people tell them about how these policies actually impact people.

Calling attention to the IRS watching pay pal accounts of everyone who 600 plus in it? Well that's just to make sure the wealthy elite is paying!!!

As if the wealthy hide wealth in Pay Pals. Bitch please. The only people who use Pay Pal are regular fucking people trying to make some extra money on the side......that's who the establishment really wants to stalk and rob.

These people ignore how that eviction prevention bullshit hurt regular people and they literally argued that ONLY wealthy corps rented properties and there are no regular mom and pop landlords. They know damn well that's bullshit and regular working people were hurt financially. They know the lock downs and riots destroyed thousands of regular peoples lives.

It's a completely dishonest and fake "party" that continually helps the wealthy elite, destroys the regular people all while lying and faking being for workers

And everyone knows this, except for the loyalists who are just completely emotionally attached to being against the "righties"

Yea, as soon as I get to 10,000 micro transaction through Paypal, I'm taking over the world!

 

[Joe]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

And yet, there is a difference between

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

Why do you liars keep taking more of my fucking money?

Your taxes are inevitably set to rise in dramatic fashion due to your President Biden's ultra expensive infrastructure bill set to become the Law in America soon, Lokmeer.

So Suck it up, Buttercup!

But you didnt answer my question josephine.....WHY should I ever trust democRATs when they keep telling me they're cutting my taxes and yet keept raising them all my life? I wont ever suck it up but I will keep buying guns and ammo.

Ya got me Bud.

The States is a completely different ball of wax from where I live.

Seems yer at War with yer government Lokmeer.

We haven't quite gotten to that point yet, eh.

You guys hate your own government more than America's enemies do...Lokmeer!

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

 

[Dove]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

Why do you liars keep taking more of my fucking money?

They are fighting FOR us, Lok.

You can see that by how they ignore everything people tell them about how these policies actually impact people.

Calling attention to the IRS watching pay pal accounts of everyone who 600 plus in it? Well that's just to make sure the wealthy elite is paying!!!

As if the wealthy hide wealth in Pay Pals. Bitch please. The only people who use Pay Pal are regular fucking people trying to make some extra money on the side......that's who the establishment really wants to stalk and rob.

These people ignore how that eviction prevention bullshit hurt regular people and they literally argued that ONLY wealthy corps rented properties and there are no regular mom and pop landlords. They know damn well that's bullshit and regular working people were hurt financially. They know the lock downs and riots destroyed thousands of regular peoples lives.

It's a completely dishonest and fake "party" that continually helps the wealthy elite, destroys the regular people all while lying and faking being for workers

And everyone knows this, except for the loyalists who are just completely emotionally attached to being against the "righties"

Yea, as soon as I get to 10,000 micro transaction through Paypal, I'm taking over the world!

Dont be buying any BOATS. Lol

 

[Dove]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

And every single community needs representation. So everyone knows where our taxes are going. And it cant get spent on utter bullshit.

I dont understand why leftists cant just raise money for the partisan shit they want.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

And every single community needs representation. So everyone knows where our taxes are going. And it cant get spent on utter bullshit.

I dont understand why leftists cant just raise money for the partisan shit they want.

Because Leftists in power view the taxpayers as their personal herd of cows to be milked dry whenever they feel like it. For Leftists who are not in positions of power, they either have a fiduciary reason to ensure Leftists in power remain in power so their government checks keep coming, or they are just stupid fucking idiots.

 

[LotusBud]

I love how that under this proposed tax increase which the Democrats are pushing the combined total top marginal tax rate in places like NYC (fed, state, and city income tax rates combined) would be 62% for high earners. Yet many dems say that is still not enough for high earners to "pay their fair share". When you are taking most of their income they are clearly paying far more than their fair share.

Thus why high income entertainers like the rapper 50 cent said he would just leave New York and more to Texas to avoid the excessive taxation. I can't say I disagree with him.

Do you realize that in the 70s, when the top tax rate was 70%+ (that was what rich people paid on dollars they earned OVER 100k, which was big money at the time), Republicans AND Democrats signed on for that because the US was in economic straits and everyone was for helping the country?

People who think no one should pay taxes are A) delusional about how a country works, and B) anti-American.

 

[LotusBud]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

You're a straight up idiot. How do you build bridges and roads, maintain the military, supply water, have police forces and fire departments, run schools, have public parks, administer social security, have a judicial system, etc, etc, etc, if you don't tax anyone? And why are you so un-American?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

You're a straight up idiot. How do you build bridges and roads, maintain the military, supply water, have police forces and fire departments, run schools, have public parks, administer social security, have a judicial system, etc, etc, etc, if you don't tax anyone? And why are you so un-American?

I'm perfectly willing to contribute to the social compact for such needed things as roads, bridges and a kick ass military, but I'm quite sure we could eliminate at least 80% of the parasites on the taxpayer payroll and get by just fine.

Take for instance the Federal Department of Education? What does it do, what constitutional purpose does it serve? Yet we shell out $68 BILLION a year (2016) paying federal parasite vermin Democrats (4.400 of them) to do whatever it is that they are charged with doing.

Can we agree that we can fire them all and let them die of starvation in ditches? It's less than 5,000 Democrat voates, so it wouldn't make that much of a difference and none of us would miss them once they're gone and we could save $68 billion dollars a year.

 

[LotusBud]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

You're a straight up idiot. How do you build bridges and roads, maintain the military, supply water, have police forces and fire departments, run schools, have public parks, administer social security, have a judicial system, etc, etc, etc, if you don't tax anyone? And why are you so un-American?

I'm perfectly willing to contribute to the social compact for such needed things as roads, bridges and a kick ass military, but I'm quite sure we could eliminate at least 80% of the parasites on the taxpayer payroll and get by just fine.

Take for instance the Federal Department of Education? What does it do, what constitutional purpose does it serve? Yet we shell out $68 BILLION a year (2016) paying federal parasite vermin Democrats (4.400 of them) to do whatever it is that they are charged with doing.

Can we agree that we can fire them all and let them die of starvation in ditches? It's less than 5,000 Democrat voates, so it wouldn't make that much of a difference and none of us would miss them once they're gone and we could save $68 billion dollars a year.

No. Education is what made the US the most powerful nation on earth. It has been whittled at by you haters of intelligence, and that is why the country is failing.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

You're a straight up idiot. How do you build bridges and roads, maintain the military, supply water, have police forces and fire departments, run schools, have public parks, administer social security, have a judicial system, etc, etc, etc, if you don't tax anyone? And why are you so un-American?

I'm perfectly willing to contribute to the social compact for such needed things as roads, bridges and a kick ass military, but I'm quite sure we could eliminate at least 80% of the parasites on the taxpayer payroll and get by just fine.

Take for instance the Federal Department of Education? What does it do, what constitutional purpose does it serve? Yet we shell out $68 BILLION a year (2016) paying federal parasite vermin Democrats (4.400 of them) to do whatever it is that they are charged with doing.

Can we agree that we can fire them all and let them die of starvation in ditches? It's less than 5,000 Democrat voates, so it wouldn't make that much of a difference and none of us would miss them once they're gone and we could save $68 billion dollars a year.

No. Education is what made the US the most powerful nation on earth. It has been whittled at by you haters of intelligence, and that is why the country is failing.

Do you really want me to spank your moon-white ass globes once again regarding the utter failures of the public education system here in America AGAIN?

... you really must have enjoyed it last time.

 

[Breakfall]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

You're a straight up idiot. How do you build bridges and roads, maintain the military, supply water, have police forces and fire departments, run schools, have public parks, administer social security, have a judicial system, etc, etc, etc, if you don't tax anyone? And why are you so un-American?

I'm perfectly willing to contribute to the social compact for such needed things as roads, bridges and a kick ass military, but I'm quite sure we could eliminate at least 80% of the parasites on the taxpayer payroll and get by just fine.

Take for instance the Federal Department of Education? What does it do, what constitutional purpose does it serve? Yet we shell out $68 BILLION a year (2016) paying federal parasite vermin Democrats (4.400 of them) to do whatever it is that they are charged with doing.

Can we agree that we can fire them all and let them die of starvation in ditches? It's less than 5,000 Democrat voates, so it wouldn't make that much of a difference and none of us would miss them once they're gone and we could save $68 billion dollars a year.

No. Education is what made the US the most powerful nation on earth. It has been whittled at by you haters of intelligence, and that is why the country is failing.

Do you really want me to spank your moon-white ass globes once again regarding the utter failures of the public education system here in America AGAIN?

... you really must have enjoyed it last time.

Her vegan shits will accost your senses like none other! Danger...danger...high voltage!

 

[Dove]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

How is my pointing out that all taxation is theft "go(ing) to bat for billionaires?"

Since my life isn't ruled by envy, as yours seems to be, I don't really care how much more wealth someone else might have.

And if we all "paid the same taxes," that would be a flat rate tax, which I would support. Everyone should pay no more than 10% and everyone should pay the same percentage. Make a buck, flip the taxman a dime, make a billion dollars, flip the taxman 100 million. That is "fair," dear.

You're a straight up idiot. How do you build bridges and roads, maintain the military, supply water, have police forces and fire departments, run schools, have public parks, administer social security, have a judicial system, etc, etc, etc, if you don't tax anyone? And why are you so un-American?

So we continue to raise taxes and waste that money and use it for just what dems want or we dont get any infrastructure.

That's kinda the same either/or as "wear the mask or DIE on a VENT".

Opposing taxes is the most American thing to do. This country literally started because people were fed up with a corrupt government over taxing the people and there being no representation.

Why are you so unAmerican?

 

[Lily]

Which one? Goofy, spic or cunt?

Everything you post.

Well then, don't read it, you daft gash.

You're finally right, cock breath.

"Lilies are part of the genus Lilium, which is part of the Liliaceae family. The orchid plant family is one of the largest, comprised of more than 30,000 species that grow in a range of habitats. The lily family, however, is part of a single genus comprising only about 100 species and several hybrids."

Who'd give a mighty oak up for that?

I like them both. I never give up the might oak. She's always there.

 

[Oerdin]

These people are stupoc6and I happy to urinate all over them.

 

[The Prowler]

In the big picture...

Too many people focus on taxes.

The thing to focus on is government spending.

If government spending was efficient, then taxes would not be much of an issue.

One of the biggest problems with left-wing politics is that they want the government to control as much as possible. The problem arises because the government is virtually always extremely inefficient and wasteful. So the more the government controls, the more money is wasted.

This is to be expected. Because the majority of political leaders are incompetent business people. They are voted-in because they speak well, look good, have a nice smile, and are able to convince people they are sincere and competent. They are only one small step above dishonest Used Car Salesmen. And they make the high-level, strategic decisions.

But, the scam works. They have everyone talking about taxes 90% of the time and only talking about spending 10% of the time. People argue about where to generate tax income for the government, instead of holding the government accountable for their wasteful spending.

I said this over three years ago.....


Was Trump listening?