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<blockquote data-quote="The Best Holliday" data-source="post: 1283083" data-attributes="member: 11635">I don't, and I have advocated the Liberal principled position for decades. You could ask anyone.It's you that is confused and unprincipled. As I said - you people want deregulation till you don't.You don't want immigration control, you want the wrong people prevented from immigrating, but wake up, man, you aren't the conservative that matters. Real conservatives don't give a shit what you social conservatives think.PS: to that: I don't think Trump has&nbsp; clue about these things. He's a deranged despot putting on a show. He simply takes pleasure is pushing defenseless people around. Any resident of NY or NJ since the 80s knows his character. He loves illegal labor.I'm very sorry, mAdam, I just explained to you as a matter of principle why Liberals favor controlled borders and ACTUAL principled conservatives do not. People like you and MAGA do not operate on principle, but on convenience. Whatever position favors you personally at any given time, you adopt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Best Holliday, post: 1283083, member: 11635"] I don't, and I have advocated the Liberal principled position for decades. You could ask anyone. It's you that is confused and unprincipled. As I said - you people want deregulation till you don't. You don't want immigration control, you want the wrong people prevented from immigrating, but wake up, man, you aren't the conservative that matters. Real conservatives don't give a shit what you social conservatives think. PS: to that: I don't think Trump has clue about these things. He's a deranged despot putting on a show. He simply takes pleasure is pushing defenseless people around. Any resident of NY or NJ since the 80s knows his character. He loves illegal labor. I'm very sorry, mAdam, I just explained to you as a matter of principle why Liberals favor controlled borders and ACTUAL principled conservatives do not. People like you and MAGA do not operate on principle, but on convenience. Whatever position favors you personally at any given time, you adopt. [/QUOTE]

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