Trump recommends people get vaxxed

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Also I know a girl that got the flu shot every year her whole life and most every year got the flu anyway. Then a few years ago she decided to stop getting the flu shot and as of last I heard she hasn't contracted the flu since.

I haven't had a flu shot since I was a kid. Sometimes I get the flu, sometimes I don't.

This long covid thing is the worst for me. Covid was like a very weird flu for about 2 1/2 weeks. Not the worst thing in the world. This long shit is awful, though. I'm really over it.

When you say this “long shit” as such, are you sure it’s not ongoing complications from the actual vaccine that you took? I can’t recall which vaccine that you said you took or if you took one at all?

Well, yes, because I've had this since I had Covid, long before the vaccine was available. Like 8 months before I got the vaccine.

I got the J&J.

I’ve heard bad reports about J&J. I’m surprised that they gave you a vaccine after the fact anyway?

You can get blood clots with J&J .....but pretty much every possible adverse event is the same with any vaccine.

There isnt a single medical intervention free of risk.

Your odds of dying or being injured in a car wreck or greater than having an adverse response from a conventional vaccine.

Imagine if everyone who had a car wreck was on the internet talking about the dangers of cars. See my point?

Not with me...my chances are greater getting blood clots from a vaccine than having a car accident. I live every day aware that one day I could get a stroke or suffer a heart attack from MVP/Barlow syndrome. Anyone with this condition or blood clot abnormalities running in their families need to seek proper advice from a cardiologist.

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Well, then for you, it is certainly different.

And a lot of others like me...

 

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Also I know a girl that got the flu shot every year her whole life and most every year got the flu anyway. Then a few years ago she decided to stop getting the flu shot and as of last I heard she hasn't contracted the flu since.

I haven't had a flu shot since I was a kid. Sometimes I get the flu, sometimes I don't.

This long covid thing is the worst for me. Covid was like a very weird flu for about 2 1/2 weeks. Not the worst thing in the world. This long shit is awful, though. I'm really over it.

When you say this “long shit” as such, are you sure it’s not ongoing complications from the actual vaccine that you took? I can’t recall which vaccine that you said you took or if you took one at all?

Well, yes, because I've had this since I had Covid, long before the vaccine was available. Like 8 months before I got the vaccine.

I got the J&J.

I’ve heard bad reports about J&J. I’m surprised that they gave you a vaccine after the fact anyway?

You can get blood clots with J&J .....but pretty much every possible adverse event is the same with any vaccine.

There isnt a single medical intervention free of risk.

Your odds of dying or being injured in a car wreck or greater than having an adverse response from a conventional vaccine.

Imagine if everyone who had a car wreck was on the internet talking about the dangers of cars. See my point?

Not with me...my chances are greater getting blood clots from a vaccine than having a car accident. I live every day aware that one day I could get a stroke or suffer a heart attack from MVP/Barlow syndrome. Anyone with this condition or blood clot abnormalities running in their families need to seek proper advice from a cardiologist.

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I mean there are always people who cannot be vaccinated.....I'm just talking about all the stuff people are saying about the vaccine.

Imagine if this same thing was happening regarding the risk of driving cars. Like if people were spreading awareness about automobile related deaths and injuries.....like they are doing about the vaccine.

And we were getting videos, pictures and testimonials from everyone hurt in car accidents.

There would be SO MANY pouring in everyday that the vaccine wouldnt seem all that dangerous and scary in comparison.

On a general level for most people, the risk of death or injury on the car ride to get the vaccine is greater than the risk of a vaccine.

I'm just saying, with every decision we make, we are using a risk:benefit ratio whether we are aware or not. Every choice is made because we decided the risks were lower or greater than the benefits.

I decided for my 16 year old who has a heart mur mur.....right now, the risks could outweigh the benefit. So while her sister was able to get the J&J, her only option is Pfizer so we are waiting. Just like you said for yourself, your risk outweighs your benefits because you have an underlying issue that makes vaccination more risky for you.

My mother has mitrol valve prolapse, she takes meds for it everyday. She went with J&J under the advice of her doctor. She has other issues as well and Covid carries more risk for her than the vaccine does. If you are not at a high risk from Covid complications.....you probably wouldnt take the vaccine.

In all the partisan excitement people seem to forget or just disregard that science isnt so black and white here and it's really not wise or nessesary to vaccinate EVERYONE.

And peoples medical decisions are really no one else's concern.

And that’s why I have pressed people to know their blood type as well. Too many people aren’t researching enough:

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This is not a game, and we all don’t know enough about the various vaccines on the market and the health implications that they may pose to various individuals. Individuals being the prime focus here. To some governments, people that have adverse reactions to the various vaccines is considered to be merely collateral damage in the whole global vaccination imposition. It’s ludicrous to say the least. Accepting unknowns and possibly living a life of debilitating pain. Losing a loved one to a dubious vaccine. My conscience couldn’t live with that. Research, research, research...you may not require a vaccine. And it’s your goddamn right to say NO!

 

[Dove]

This is not a game, and we all don’t know enough about the various vaccines on the market and the health implications that they may pose to various individuals. Individuals being the prime focus here. To some governments, people that have adverse reactions to the various vaccines is considered to be merely collateral damage in the whole global vaccination imposition. It’s ludicrous to say the least. Accepting unknowns and possibly living a life of debilitating pain. Losing a loved one to a dubious vaccine. My conscience couldn’t live with that. Research, research, research...you may not require a vaccine. And it’s your goddamn right to say NO!

Well this is why we have doctors.

We should be seeing more comments like "ask your doctor" or "you should be making this decision with your doctor" and "you shouldnt be making a decision like this without talking to your doctor"

But now everyone on the internet who voted left thinks they have been bestowed more medical science knowledge than doctors. To the point where they are openly saying if you dont get vaccinated, you shouldnt be able to get medical care.

Corporate media hasnt told them not everyone can be vaccinated I guess.

 

[Breakfall]

This is not a game, and we all don’t know enough about the various vaccines on the market and the health implications that they may pose to various individuals. Individuals being the prime focus here. To some governments, people that have adverse reactions to the various vaccines is considered to be merely collateral damage in the whole global vaccination imposition. It’s ludicrous to say the least. Accepting unknowns and possibly living a life of debilitating pain. Losing a loved one to a dubious vaccine. My conscience couldn’t live with that. Research, research, research...you may not require a vaccine. And it’s your goddamn right to say NO!

Well this is why we have doctors.

We should be seeing more comments like "ask your doctor" or "you should be making this decision with your doctor" and "you shouldnt be making a decision like this without talking to your doctor"

But now everyone on the internet who voted left thinks they have been bestowed more medical science knowledge than doctors. To the point where they are openly saying if you dont get vaccinated, you shouldnt be able to get medical care.

Corporate media hasnt told them not everyone can be vaccinated I guess.

I couldn’t believe this today, particularly after we just discussed my point of concern. Another business owner came over today, and he was really venting his disgust over the AstraZeneca vaccine. A mate of his had just got his second dose of this particular vaccine. Two weeks later he was complaining about a sore neck; then last night he fell down after having a stroke and was rushed off to the hospital. He’s currently having surgery after a brain aneurysm from blood clotting. We don’t know if he’s going to pull through just yet.

And this is exactly the reason why I get pissedoff at particular members with their sheep mentality, that really know fuck all about the potential dangers of vaccines to those that are highly susceptible to adverse side effects.

 

[Dove]

This is not a game, and we all don’t know enough about the various vaccines on the market and the health implications that they may pose to various individuals. Individuals being the prime focus here. To some governments, people that have adverse reactions to the various vaccines is considered to be merely collateral damage in the whole global vaccination imposition. It’s ludicrous to say the least. Accepting unknowns and possibly living a life of debilitating pain. Losing a loved one to a dubious vaccine. My conscience couldn’t live with that. Research, research, research...you may not require a vaccine. And it’s your goddamn right to say NO!

Well this is why we have doctors.

We should be seeing more comments like "ask your doctor" or "you should be making this decision with your doctor" and "you shouldnt be making a decision like this without talking to your doctor"

But now everyone on the internet who voted left thinks they have been bestowed more medical science knowledge than doctors. To the point where they are openly saying if you dont get vaccinated, you shouldnt be able to get medical care.

Corporate media hasnt told them not everyone can be vaccinated I guess.

I couldn’t believe this today, particularly after we just discussed my point of concern. Another business owner came over today, and he was really venting his disgust over the AstraZeneca vaccine. A mate of his had just got his second dose of this particular vaccine. Two weeks later he was complaining about a sore neck; then last night he fell down after having a stroke and was rushed off to the hospital. He’s currently having surgery after a brain aneurysm from blood clotting. We don’t know if he’s going to pull through just yet.

And this is exactly the reason why I get pissedoff at particular members with their sheep mentality, that really know fuck all about the potential dangers of vaccines to those that are highly susceptible to adverse side effects.

They make it worse, too.

 

[Breakfall]

This is not a game, and we all don’t know enough about the various vaccines on the market and the health implications that they may pose to various individuals. Individuals being the prime focus here. To some governments, people that have adverse reactions to the various vaccines is considered to be merely collateral damage in the whole global vaccination imposition. It’s ludicrous to say the least. Accepting unknowns and possibly living a life of debilitating pain. Losing a loved one to a dubious vaccine. My conscience couldn’t live with that. Research, research, research...you may not require a vaccine. And it’s your goddamn right to say NO!

Well this is why we have doctors.

We should be seeing more comments like "ask your doctor" or "you should be making this decision with your doctor" and "you shouldnt be making a decision like this without talking to your doctor"

But now everyone on the internet who voted left thinks they have been bestowed more medical science knowledge than doctors. To the point where they are openly saying if you dont get vaccinated, you shouldnt be able to get medical care.

Corporate media hasnt told them not everyone can be vaccinated I guess.

I couldn’t believe this today, particularly after we just discussed my point of concern. Another business owner came over today, and he was really venting his disgust over the AstraZeneca vaccine. A mate of his had just got his second dose of this particular vaccine. Two weeks later he was complaining about a sore neck; then last night he fell down after having a stroke and was rushed off to the hospital. He’s currently having surgery after a brain aneurysm from blood clotting. We don’t know if he’s going to pull through just yet.

And this is exactly the reason why I get pissedoff at particular members with their sheep mentality, that really know fuck all about the potential dangers of vaccines to those that are highly susceptible to adverse side effects.

They make it worse, too.

I’m not an “anti-vaxxer”, I just don’t need nor want the various Covid vaccines. Quite simple really...why can’t they get that through their thick skulls?

 

[Dove]

This is not a game, and we all don’t know enough about the various vaccines on the market and the health implications that they may pose to various individuals. Individuals being the prime focus here. To some governments, people that have adverse reactions to the various vaccines is considered to be merely collateral damage in the whole global vaccination imposition. It’s ludicrous to say the least. Accepting unknowns and possibly living a life of debilitating pain. Losing a loved one to a dubious vaccine. My conscience couldn’t live with that. Research, research, research...you may not require a vaccine. And it’s your goddamn right to say NO!

Well this is why we have doctors.

We should be seeing more comments like "ask your doctor" or "you should be making this decision with your doctor" and "you shouldnt be making a decision like this without talking to your doctor"

But now everyone on the internet who voted left thinks they have been bestowed more medical science knowledge than doctors. To the point where they are openly saying if you dont get vaccinated, you shouldnt be able to get medical care.

Corporate media hasnt told them not everyone can be vaccinated I guess.

I couldn’t believe this today, particularly after we just discussed my point of concern. Another business owner came over today, and he was really venting his disgust over the AstraZeneca vaccine. A mate of his had just got his second dose of this particular vaccine. Two weeks later he was complaining about a sore neck; then last night he fell down after having a stroke and was rushed off to the hospital. He’s currently having surgery after a brain aneurysm from blood clotting. We don’t know if he’s going to pull through just yet.

And this is exactly the reason why I get pissedoff at particular members with their sheep mentality, that really know fuck all about the potential dangers of vaccines to those that are highly susceptible to adverse side effects.

They make it worse, too.

I’m not an “anti-vaxxer”, I just don’t need nor want the various Covid vaccines. Quite simple really...why can’t they get that through their thick skulls?

Control. It's about politics.