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<blockquote data-quote="Oerdin" data-source="post: 201361" data-attributes="member: 128">Back when I was volunteering at the homeless shelter (around four years ago) I knew one old guy who had lots of mental problems, lots of health problems (multiple heart attacks and a failing liver), he'd refuse to go to the hospital even when he'd had heart attacks, even when the hospital was completely free on taxpayer money, and he was a raging alcoholic with all sorts of psych problems which made him difficult to work with.&nbsp; He wasn't eligible for VA housing assistance because he was dishonorable discharged back in the 1970's after less than one year in.So anyway, the city still found him a free apartment near the beach in Imperial Beach (he refused any apartment not near the beach) but just two days later he burned half the complex down because he started cooking while drunk, passed out, and ended up making the whe quadplex unlivable so three other families were also made homeless by him.&nbsp; You can't just put them in an apartment and expect them to function.&nbsp; He had the so called &quot;wrap around care&quot; with a case manager, housing navigator, a nurse to set up all of his hospital care for him, to remind him of the appointments, and even to drive him to each appointment, but none of it mattered.&nbsp; You can't save some people and they just need to be in institutional care but the state won't allow it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oerdin, post: 201361, member: 128"] Back when I was volunteering at the homeless shelter (around four years ago) I knew one old guy who had lots of mental problems, lots of health problems (multiple heart attacks and a failing liver), he'd refuse to go to the hospital even when he'd had heart attacks, even when the hospital was completely free on taxpayer money, and he was a raging alcoholic with all sorts of psych problems which made him difficult to work with. He wasn't eligible for VA housing assistance because he was dishonorable discharged back in the 1970's after less than one year in. So anyway, the city still found him a free apartment near the beach in Imperial Beach (he refused any apartment not near the beach) but just two days later he burned half the complex down because he started cooking while drunk, passed out, and ended up making the whe quadplex unlivable so three other families were also made homeless by him. You can't just put them in an apartment and expect them to function. He had the so called "wrap around care" with a case manager, housing navigator, a nurse to set up all of his hospital care for him, to remind him of the appointments, and even to drive him to each appointment, but none of it mattered. You can't save some people and they just need to be in institutional care but the state won't allow it. [/QUOTE]

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