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<blockquote data-quote="Joe" data-source="post: 317630" data-attributes="member: 9">I am neither pro-German or Nazi Sympathizer.But I think the ones who were ultimately responsible for the rise of the Nazis were the British.their Establishment, their Nobility &amp; their Elites such as the bankers and Industrialists.Because they started World War I and forced the Germans to fight them.And 20 years later this created the conditions for World War IIThe British and the French destroyed the monarchies &amp; the traditional societies of their enemies in World War I, and it came back to bit them in the ass in World War II.Hitler and the Germans got revenge on them by destroying the British, French, Belgian &amp; the Dutch Empires.The Germans never offcially declared War with the British in World War I &amp; even tho they tried to back out of a War, the British wouldn't let them.Same in World War II. The British didn't allow the Germans to seek any compromise with them after the invasion of Poland which could averted that War. The Germans declared War on the British after they declared war on Germany - who couldn't back down.By no means does this absolve Germany of its guilt or its atrocities, but the British themselves are not guiltless.The British themsleves were ruthless Imperialists and colonialists. They gave the USA such a hard time for its Jim Crow laws. but were practising the same thing in their own colonies. Even the Whites in those colonies such as the Australians and South Africans got treated like 2nd class citizens and dirt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Joe, post: 317630, member: 9"] I am neither pro-German or Nazi Sympathizer. But I think the ones who were ultimately responsible for the rise of the Nazis were the British. their Establishment, their Nobility & their Elites such as the bankers and Industrialists. Because they started World War I and forced the Germans to fight them. And 20 years later this created the conditions for World War II The British and the French destroyed the monarchies & the traditional societies of their enemies in World War I, and it came back to bit them in the ass in World War II. Hitler and the Germans got revenge on them by destroying the British, French, Belgian & the Dutch Empires. The Germans never offcially declared War with the British in World War I & even tho they tried to back out of a War, the British wouldn't let them. Same in World War II. The British didn't allow the Germans to seek any compromise with them after the invasion of Poland which could averted that War. The Germans declared War on the British after they declared war on Germany - who couldn't back down. By no means does this absolve Germany of its guilt or its atrocities, but the British themselves are not guiltless. The British themsleves were ruthless Imperialists and colonialists. They gave the USA such a hard time for its Jim Crow laws. but were practising the same thing in their own colonies. Even the Whites in those colonies such as the Australians and South Africans got treated like 2nd class citizens and dirt. [/QUOTE]

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