MAGA Forever

Jim Beam said:
The only point associated with your post is the one atop your head. I am rapidly losing confidence a reasonable fact filled debate is even possible with you.

Now follow closely. your pal has insinuated via her response that Biden is not at fault for the dramatic increases in prices domestically because the uderlying issues affecting those significant rises were worldwide. Therefore Biden cannot be held solely responsible.

Noted.

But then you very same people go on to blame Trump for the impacts of a pandemic which infected the entire global and do not apply this same level of courtesy to him you wish to have applied to Biden.

And you are stupid enough to believe normal people do not see right through your gross hypocrisy
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STFU Bootlicker, you lose more credibility with every post.
 
Jim Beam said:
The only point associated with your post is the one atop your head. I am rapidly losing confidence a reasonable fact filled debate is even possible with you.

Now follow closely. your pal has insinuated via her response that Biden is not at fault for the dramatic increases in prices domestically because the uderlying issues affecting those significant rises were worldwide. Therefore Biden cannot be held solely responsible.

Noted.

But then you very same people go on to blame Trump for the impacts of a pandemic which infected the entire global and do not apply this same level of courtesy to him you wish to have applied to Biden.

And you are stupid enough to believe normal people do not see right through your gross hypocrisy
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Honey, no one claimed Trump was responsible for the pandemic. His response was very childish, narcissistic, and not at all helpful, though.

No one can stop the corporate control of the planet. Conservative lawmakers worldwide have given them the power they have, and there is no body or country that can take it away at this point. we all suffer because of them and you idiots are busy blaming immigration, trans people, and unions. It's fucking astounding.

PS, when I say "conservative lawmakers" I include neoliberal lawmakers like Bill Clinton and his ilk. Those people have turned the planet into a giant techno feudal system.

MAGA is not the answer. Harris wasn't either, but the decline will be much quicker under Trump/Musk.
 
Jim Beam said:
Are we reading the same message board?

C'mon, be honest with yourself and then the rest of us and at such a point maybe we can have an honest debate
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Link to anyone saying the pandemic was his fault. In the meantime, maybe have a cogent argument for some of the many, many other points I am making. Including the points I made in the post you just responded to.
 
LotusBud said:
Link to anyone saying the pandemic was his fault. In the meantime, maybe have a cogent argument for some of the many, many other points I am making. Including the points I made in the post you just responded to.
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Do I look like the errand boy willing to work for free on behalf of someone who is being intellectually dishonest with herself and the rest of us?

Here's about the most help I will provide you under the assumption their idiotic scibblings may had the same impact on you that they have on the rest of us. They are simply too stupid to bother reading every last thing they write. So the possibility certainly does exist that you may have missed it.

So if you happen to fall into that bucket I can certainly empathize and offer you this as a means to find the information you seek very quickly.

Do a quick search through Admin's and Lily's post history :CooL:
 
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LotusBud said:
See, what you don't seem to understand, and none of you myopic MAGAheads do, is that food and gas prices went up EVERYWHERE IN THE WESTERN WORLD. You people are so narrow minded and hate filled. Do you think Biden caused those prices to rise in Europe?

FUCK NO. They rose because there is global price fixing. They rose becaue the masters of the universe -- rich people like Musk -- will take every opportunity to gouge every working person on the planet and keep it all for themselves. And the reasons behind their being able to do this everywhere on the planet are because of conservstive economic policies that strangle workers and enrich oligarchs. Biden is a tool of that system, but he didn't cause it. Fucking rampant toxic capitalistic conservatism caused it.

Your stupidity really aggravates me no end.

That FEMA anecdote? There are plenty of equal and just as obnoxious anecdotes coming from the right, and that incident had nothing to do with Biden policy. Get a grip.

And the crime in the US? It comes from the overall culture in that country. There is no such crime problem where I live, in my SOCIALIST COUNTRY. Explain that. Logically, I mean. Not from a hater perspective.
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Right.......similar policies and actions matching those of Bidumb's Administration will have similar results....boy you are ignorant

Price fixing........you have been indoctrinated to hate capitalism and consider corporations as the boogie man. Look at all the businesses closing their doors due to the high cost of energy, food and supplies. When regulations drive up the price of those elements.....the cost to the consumer rises as well. So....enlighten us.....tell us what you believe the real cost of basic food and energy should be, since you know so much

Crime?

Because you dont have the same level of violent migrants and other demographics or the soft on crime policies exist here. But why is Portugal closing their borders? Are things changing?
 
LotusBud said:
You're clueless. I thought we were arguing MY beliefs, not the echo chamber synopsis of beliefs regarding your hatred of liberals.
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We can't argue your beliefs.....you continue to dodge the question.....tell us, what will Trump Administration policies do to adversely affect Americans?

Again.....I have no hatred for Liberals.....just disrespect that they could install a feeble man and shell of a leader, couple it with the ultimate DEI hire, and then rob Democrats of the chance to choose a valid candidate to vote for.

Pleased with the outcome from their incompetence tho.
 
The Atomic Punk said:
Right.......similar policies and actions matching those of Bidumb's Administration will have similar results....boy you are ignorant

Price fixing........you have been indoctrinated to hate capitalism and consider corporations as the boogie man. Look at all the businesses closing their doors due to the high cost of energy, food and supplies. When regulations drive up the price of those elements.....the cost to the consumer rises as well. So....enlighten us.....tell us what you believe the real cost of basic food and energy should be, since you know so much

Crime?

Because you dont have the same level of violent migrants and other demographics or the soft on crime policies exist here. But why is Portugal closing their borders? Are things changing?
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I would simply like them to inform us how telling Shoprite they are only allowed to charge a maximum of 2 bucks for a pound of beef when the retailer is firm in their conviction that this price represents a net loss of .02 cents on that item does the consumer any good when the retailer decides to simply stop selling that item to avoid the hassle.

Now for the close minded a single instance of this happenstance may seem trivial but when it begins to occur on a mass scale the results for the everyday consumer can be catastrophic.

Demonizing the corporations that basically provide the goods and services consumers need is not the answer as the problem is simply not that one dimensional.
 
The Atomic Punk said:
Define how we're screwed......otherwise you are just squalking and babbling about things you have been indoctrinated to believe.

So.........convince me.......
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“indoctrinated to believe” sounds more like you….

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sorry snowflake ….its not my job to convince idiots they’re stupid if you can read ^ there’s a short list

Give it six months you’ll see for yourself mmmmmK :OhGawd: :Sad:
 
It is disturbing to see the influence the lib media has had on its viewers. Yoo all realize Trump was president before and things were great. He even brokered peace in the Middle East. STOP BELIEVING EVERY THING THE LIB MEDIA TELLS YOO!
 
The Atomic Punk said:
....just disrespect that they could install a feeble man and shell of a leader, couple it with the ultimate DEI hire, and then rob Democrats of the chance to choose a valid candidate to vote for.
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This is where I have to disagree with you friend. Democrats chose Kamala when she appeared on Biden's ticket during their primaries. It is not uncommon belief that a VP shall assume the role of president should the president be unable to fulfill his duties.

Every American casting their vote for Biden had to know it was a distinct possibility that he would die or otherwise be unable to complete a second term and seemed perfectly content with a Kamala outcome. Therefore, democrats weren't robbed of anything. The process played out exactly as it should have.

You should be more upset with democrats for threatening the 14th amendment at a time convenient for them while all three years prior lying to the American people that he was fit for office. This is a case of him being fit for office right up until the point he wasn't and the wasn't had nothing to do with the good of the people but rather the good of the party.
 
Jim Beam said:
Do I look like the errand boy willing to work for free on behalf of someone who is being intellectually dishonest with herself and the rest of us?

Here's about the most help I will provide you under the assumption their idiotic scibblings may had the same impact on you that they have on the rest of us. They are simply too stupid to bother reading every last thing they write. So the possibility certainly does exist that you may have missed it.

So if you happen to fall into that bucket I can certainly empathize and offer you this as a means to find the information you seek very quickly.

Do a quick search through Admin's and Lily's post history :CooL:
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How about this much more important piece of the argument, which has nothing to do with what Lily and/or Admin did or did not post, which is really beside the point in any case:

No one can stop the corporate control of the planet. Conservative lawmakers worldwide have given them the power they have, and there is no body or country that can take it away at this point. we all suffer because of them and you idiots are busy blaming immigration, trans people, and unions. It's fucking astounding.

PS, when I say "conservative lawmakers" I include neoliberal lawmakers like Bill Clinton and his ilk. Those people have turned the planet into a giant techno feudal system.
 
LotusBud said:
Honey, no one claimed Trump was responsible for the pandemic. His response was very childish, narcissistic, and not at all helpful, though.

No one can stop the corporate control of the planet. Conservative lawmakers worldwide have given them the power they have, and there is no body or country that can take it away at this point. we all suffer because of them and you idiots are busy blaming immigration, trans people, and unions. It's fucking astounding.

PS, when I say "conservative lawmakers" I include neoliberal lawmakers like Bill Clinton and his ilk. Those people have turned the planet into a giant techno feudal system.

MAGA is not the answer. Harris wasn't either, but the decline will be much quicker under Trump/Musk.
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Trump was responsible for mishandling the pandemic response. He was on TV constantly spewing nonsense and intervening in things he simply did not understand.

I stand by that.
 
Lily said:
Trump was responsible for mishandling the pandemic response. He was on TV constantly spewing nonsense and intervening in things he simply did not understand.

I stand by that.
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The most remarkable failure (initially) was cutting off travel from the moozie countries and leaving the door open from the UK, which is where the virus was actually entering from. Not that I mind cutting off the moozies, mind you.
 
The New Holliday said:
The most remarkable failure (initially) was cutting off travel from the moozie countries and leaving the door open from the UK, which is where the virus was actually entering from. Not that I mind cutting off the moozies, mind you.
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I don't believe the Muslim ban started at the same time as the pandemic. Covid first entered the country, most likely, in late 2019. I think the Muslim ban was in 2017.

Now, if you want to say he had retarded policies in both, yes, I agree.
 
Lily said:
Trump was responsible for mishandling the pandemic response. He was on TV constantly spewing nonsense and intervening in things he simply did not understand.

I stand by that.
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INCORRECT!! MORE LIB LIES> here is truthhttps://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/testimony-operation-warp-speed-researching-manufacturing-distributing-safe-effective-coronavirus-vaccine
 
Weeg said:
INCORRECT!! MORE LIB LIES> here is truthhttps://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/testimony-operation-warp-speed-researching-manufacturing-distributing-safe-effective-coronavirus-vaccine
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A vaccine, that he often denigrated because of his stupid base, isn't the only part of a pandemic response.

But you don't know that because, well, you drink lots of kool-aid instead of reading.
 
Jim Beam said:
. It is not uncommon belief that a VP shall assume the role of president should the president be unable to fulfill his duties.
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My point was split between 2020 and 2024. Bidumb should have not run for re-election, but rather open it up to another.

Harris would not have had a chance starting with primaries ......just because it's VP does not put it on the ticket as the nominee.

Honestly.....his ego cost the Dems the Presidency...if Bidumb stands aside, my thought is Newsome would end up as the Democratic candidate.....and I don't believe Trump would have won against him. Bidumb hanging on until it was too late cost them dearly.
 
The Atomic Punk said:
My point was split between 2020 and 2024. Bidumb should have not run for re-election, but rather open it up to another.

Harris would not have had a chance starting with primaries ......just because it's VP does not put it on the ticket as the nominee.

Honestly.....his ego cost the Dems the Presidency...if Bidumb stands aside, my thought is Newsome would end up as the Democratic candidate.....and I don't believe Trump would have won against him. Bidumb hanging on until it was too late cost them dearly.
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You are 100% correct in your assessment. To a point. Biden should have never attempted a second term as he was unfit as of 2022 to complete his first term. But Harris was the insurance policy that Biden had deliberately installed to ensure his continued survive-ability. A brilliant move for a feeble old geezer like him. Shows you how the instinct to survive can be fine tuned to damn near perfection after 50 years of worthlessness as a Washington swamp pig.

The democrats saw this move but believed they had an appropriate contingency. Unmitigated Lawfare, intimidation and overall attrition. They never anticipated in a million years that Trump would survive the constant onslaught. Which is why, you saw the increasing escalation in the stoppage from simple lawfare to outright attempts to assassinate him. Just imagine what the vying for power looked like behind the scenes as the eventuality of a Trump victory drew closer and closer. Do you honestly believe that any of these beta cuck soy males on the left, using only themselves as the barometer could ever imagine Trump having the stones to fight as he did? Never in a million years! And deep in all of their hearts they know this.

When none of that worked they were fucked. And in August of 2024 they knew it but by that point, had no choice but to follow the natural progression of the presidency from the President to Vice President because the linchpin they were attempting to sell to the American public was the SUDDEN onset of dementia which anyone with half a brain saw creeping up on him as early as 2021. Augment that with all of the identity politics they have been pushing for years and what did you have? The hold your nose and pretend Kamala is the appropriate choice out of fear of the inevitable uproar of not handing a ""black woman"" her appropriate due when the opportunity to do so arose.

Smart money would have invoked the 14th amendment when conservatives were telling them to do so, and to some extent, you have to thank their lack of conscience and appetite for power for producing the glorious result we see before us today. Just imagine a world where they actually listened?

I can think of no greater example on the national stage of chickens coming home to roost than this election. It was incredible.
 
Jim Beam said:
You are 100% correct in your assessment. To a point. Biden should have never attempted a second term as he was unfit as of 2022 to complete his first term. But Harris was the insurance policy that Biden had deliberately installed to ensure his continued survive-ability. A brilliant move for a feeble old geezer like him. Shows you how the instinct to survive can be fine tuned to damn near perfection after 50 years of worthlessness as a Washington swamp pig.

The democrats saw this move but believed they had an appropriate contingency. Unmitigated Lawfare, intimidation and overall attrition. They never anticipated in a million years that Trump would survive the constant onslaught. Which is why, you saw the increasing escalation in the stoppage from simple lawfare to outright attempts to assassinate him. Just imagine what the vying for power looked like behind the scenes as the eventuality of a Trump victory drew closer and closer. Do you honestly believe that any of these beta cuck soy males on the left, using only themselves as the barometer could ever imagine Trump having the stones to fight as he did? Never in a million years! And deep in all of their hearts they know this.

When none of that worked they were fucked. And in August of 2024 they knew it but by that point, had no choice but to follow the natural progression of the presidency from the President to Vice President because the linchpin they were attempting to sell to the American public was the SUDDEN onset of dementia which anyone with half a brain saw creeping up on him as early as 2021. Augment that with all of the identity politics they have been pushing for years and what did you have? The hold your nose and pretend Kamala is the appropriate choice out of fear of the inevitable uproar of not handing a ""black woman"" her appropriate due when the opportunity to do so arose.

Smart money would have invoked the 14th amendment when conservatives were telling them to do so, and to some extent, you have to thank their lack of conscience and appetite for power for producing the glorious result we see before us today. Just imagine a world where they actually listened?

I can think of no greater example on the national stage of chickens coming home to roost than this election. It was incredible.
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Jim Beam said:
You are 100% correct in your assessment. To a point. Biden should have never attempted a second term as he was unfit as of 2022 to complete his first term. But Harris was the insurance policy that Biden had deliberately installed to ensure his continued survive-ability. A brilliant move for a feeble old geezer like him. Shows you how the instinct to survive can be fine tuned to damn near perfection after 50 years of worthlessness as a Washington swamp pig.

The democrats saw this move but believed they had an appropriate contingency. Unmitigated Lawfare, intimidation and overall attrition. They never anticipated in a million years that Trump would survive the constant onslaught. Which is why, you saw the increasing escalation in the stoppage from simple lawfare to outright attempts to assassinate him. Just imagine what the vying for power looked like behind the scenes as the eventuality of a Trump victory drew closer and closer. Do you honestly believe that any of these beta cuck soy males on the left, using only themselves as the barometer could ever imagine Trump having the stones to fight as he did? Never in a million years! And deep in all of their hearts they know this.

When none of that worked they were fucked. And in August of 2024 they knew it but by that point, had no choice but to follow the natural progression of the presidency from the President to Vice President because the linchpin they were attempting to sell to the American public was the SUDDEN onset of dementia which anyone with half a brain saw creeping up on him as early as 2021. Augment that with all of the identity politics they have been pushing for years and what did you have? The hold your nose and pretend Kamala is the appropriate choice out of fear of the inevitable uproar of not handing a ""black woman"" her appropriate due when the opportunity to do so arose.

Smart money would have invoked the 14th amendment when conservatives were telling them to do so, and to some extent, you have to thank their lack of conscience and appetite for power for producing the glorious result we see before us today. Just imagine a world where they actually listened?

I can think of no greater example on the national stage of chickens coming home to roost than this election. It was incredible.
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TLDR, so why did Trump lose the 2020?
 
Just an observation - I doubt quippy remarks will fix what's wrong.

PS: Anyone can agree that something is wrong and even what will happen in result.
.The real problem that has been noted is that the guards at the gate decided to get drunk and pass out allowing the barbarians to pass through.

What to do then...post memes?
 
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