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I think this is a good start to what we will probably see over and over throughout the next 4 years

After backing Trump, low-income voters hope he doesn’t slash their benefits​

Voters in the struggling Pennsylvania city of New Castle backed Trump hoping he’d curb inflation. But the incoming president will be under pressure to cut spending.

NEW CASTLE, Pennsylvania — Lori Mosura goes to the grocery store on a bicycle because she can’t afford to fix her Ford F-150 truck.
The single mother and her 17-year-old son live in an apartment that is so small she sleeps in the dining room. They receive $1,200 each month in food stamps and Social Security benefits but still come up short. Mosura said she often must decide whether to buy milk or toilet paper.

It was all that penny-pinching that drove the part-time tax consultant to abandon the Democratic Party this fall and vote for
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“He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich,” Mosura, 55, said on a recent afternoon. “I think he knows it’s the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us.”
Trump carried the Pennsylvania city of New Castle by about 400 votes, becoming the first Republican presidential candidate to win here in nearly 70 years. More than 1 in 4 residents live in poverty, and the median income in this former steel and railroad hub ranks as one of the lowest in Pennsylvania.

New Castle’s poorest residents weren’t alone in putting their faith in Trump.
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suggest he erased the advantage Democrats had with low-income voters across the country.

Fifty percent of voters from families with an income of less than $50,000 a year cast their ballots for Trump, according to the data, compared with 48 percent for Vice President
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, President Joe Biden carried those voters by 11 percentage points; Hillary Clinton won them by 12 points
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and former president Barack Obama by 22 points in 2012.


Now, low-income Americans who voted for Trump say they are counting on him to keep their benefits intact even while his Cabinet picks and Republican lawmakers call on him to reduce federal spending.

Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy — whom Trump has chosen to lead a new nongovernmental advisory panel, the “Department of Government Efficiency” — have said they want to trim $2 trillion from the government’s annual budget, a cut that some experts say could be accomplished only by slashing entitlement programs. Trump’s pick for White House budget director was a key architect of Project 2025, a plan drawn up by conservatives to guide his second term that calls for steep cuts to programs such as food stamps. And GOP leaders in Congress and Trump advisers are considering
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to Medicaid, food stamps and other federal aid.

The uncertainty comes after last week’s high-stakes showdown in Congress over the federal funding bill. Lawmakers narrowly
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after agreeing to fund the government until March. House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) had unveiled a bipartisan bill to put off a shutdown, but
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railed against what they said was unnecessary spending in the initial package.

“Everybody is on hyperalert,” said Tom Scott, the chief executive officer of Lawrence County Community Action Partnership, a social service agency that helps New Castle residents. “You have to be concerned because you don’t know which programs could be targeted” for spending reductions.

In a recent appearance on NBC News’s “Meet the Press,” Trump said any efforts by his administration to streamline the federal government would not impact entitlement programs such as Social Security.

“Americans of all backgrounds elected President Trump because of his plans to lower costs, end the financial drain of illegal immigrants on our health-care system, and ensure that our country can continue to care for American citizens who rely on Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security,” said Anna Kelly, a spokeswoman for his transition team.

Some longtime Democrats like Mosura said they initially struggled over whether to vote for Trump. They had believed Democrats were the most likely to help the poor and disagreed with Republicans on issues like
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. But Mosura said she kept coming back to the conclusion that Trump would put Americans like her first and improve her economic prospects.

Mosura said she has been unable to find full-time work in her field and is planning to change her party affiliation to Republican. But she also gets anxious when she hears GOP politicians talk about reducing government spending.
“We helped get you in office; please take care of us,” Mosura said, shifting the conversation as though she were speaking to Trump. “Please don’t cut the things that help the most vulnerable.”

‘Serious, serious trouble’​

Located about an hour north of Pittsburgh, New Castle is the third-largest incorporated city in western Pennsylvania.
After it was founded around the turn of the 19th century, the city became a major destination for Italian immigrants. New Castle emerged as an industrial hub known for its tin mills in the 1800s. The new residents built a lively downtown filled with shops and bars.

New Castle was also home to a thriving labor movement that helped shape the city’s historically left-leaning politics. Before Trump won New Castle, the city had last backed a Republican presidential candidate in 1956, when voters narrowly supported Dwight D. Eisenhower (R) over Adlai Stevenson (D), according to Andrei Pagnotta, a resident who has spent years studying the region’s election results.

But the city changed dramatically as factories closed and younger residents moved to more vibrant urban areas. The busiest destinations downtown today are the 60-year-old Capitol Grill bar, which sells $2.75 Bud Lights, and Hazel’s Restaurant, where guests can get a stuffed pork chop dinner for $11.99. The city’s population of 21,000 is roughly half what it was during its peak in the 1940s.

Federal benefits have helped keep residents afloat, and today that safety net is deeply interwoven with daily life. The 8.5-square-mile city includes 10 public housing projects. About 60 percent of the houses in the city are rental properties, and federal housing vouchers help countless families afford rent. Many residents also receive Medicaid and food stamps.

More than half of the Lawrence County Community Action Partnership’s $32 million budget comes from federal aid, said Scott, the organization’s leader. That helps it do things like shuttle low-income residents to medical appointments and offer rental assistance. Federal aid is also key in keeping New Castle’s children fed. About 90 percent of students come from low-income families and qualify for free school lunches, and many are sent home with food to eat over the weekend.
“It’s a very depressed area, so if our funding were to go away, and I have not heard it will, but if it were to go, we would be some in serious, serious trouble,” said Gregg Paladina, superintendent of the New Castle Area School District.

Milk or toilet paper​

A decade ago, Mosura was a fervent supporter of the Clintons. She recalls meeting former president Bill Clinton in New Castle at a rally during Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign for the White House.
But the single mother said she began to drift away from Democrats as the party’s promises to help people like herself began to ring hollow. She said she’s been “suffering a lot” because of rising prices. Groceries she once thought of as staples — like soda — are now luxuries.


“People are struggling now more than ever, in this city especially,” said Mosura, who pays $375 a month for her apartment. She said she’s “prayed more in the past year than ever before” because of her mounting bills.
New Castle was a bastion for Democratic votes up until this year. But in larger Lawrence County, the shift toward the GOP has been ongoing. White, working class Americans were increasingly drawn to Republican candidates, in part because of their messaging on security and immigration.

According to Census data, White residents make up three-fourths of New Castle’s population, while Black residents account for 10 percent. The population also includes 10 percent of residents who identify as mixed race and 5 percent who are Hispanic.

Lynne Ryan, chairwoman of the Lawrence County Republican Party, said Democrats lost the support of New Castle residents over their handling of illegal immigration and foreign aid. She said Trump was a skilled politician whom low-income voters found to be honest and relatable.

“Trump won’t cut necessary programs, and nowhere has he said he is cutting any of that,” Ryan said. “He is cutting bloated government. He is not cutting programs that work for the American people.”

City Administrator Chris Frye, a Republican and former mayor of New Castle, said he expects GOP leaders will push for some changes to how federal programs are administered. But Frye urged his party to show “empathy” when it comes to determining the actual benefits that people receive.

“I think it would be stupid to just take something away,” Frye said. “We would have mass chaos. Mass homelessness … so nationally, I don’t think it is going to be a situation where they are taking away from people.”
Detractors worry that New Castle residents will come to regret their votes.

“I have big concerns those who voted for him didn’t realize what they are doing and it’s going to affect their family and friends and probably themselves, too,” said Timothy Buck, chairman of the Lawrence County Democratic Party.

‘Cutting the f.a.t’​

On the 100 block of Richelieu Street in New Castle’s Lower East Side neighborhood, many residents rely on some form of government assistance and most people support Trump. More than a month after the election, Trump signs and flags were still planted in yards and on porches.

Steve Tillia, 59, receives $1,600 a month in Social Security disability payments and $300 in food stamps to support himself and his son. Tillia, who said he is unable to work after suffering from mini strokes, still drives around New Castle with a Trump flag anchored on the bumper of his SUV.

Tillia said he’s confident that Trump and GOP leaders will reduce spending by “cutting the f.a.t” out of government — and not slashing benefits.

“It’s not cutting government programs, it’s cutting the amount of people needed to run a program,” he said. “They are cutting staff, which could actually increase the amount of the programs that we get.”

Tillia’s neighbor, Dawn Simmons, nodded her head in agreement. Simmons receives $900 a month in Social Security benefits and $171 a month in food stamps, and she also said Trump’s decisions may even lead to enhanced benefits in the coming years because he plans to “put Americans first.”

The neighbors on Richelieu Street said they are broadly supportive of Trump’s Cabinet picks, as well as Musk’s plans for the Department of Government Efficiency. Musk has been highlighting examples of what he considers government waste on X, his social media platform — at times pushing misleading information. Some of those examples have nonetheless resonated in New Castle.

“Why do we need to be studying cats in Russia?” asked Tillia, referring to a program that used cats to study spinal cord injuries."

Tillia’s neighbor, Dawn Simmons, nodded her head in agreement. Simmons receives $900 a month in Social Security benefits and $171 a month in food stamps, and she also said Trump’s decisions may even lead to enhanced benefits in the coming years because he plans to “put Americans first.”

The neighbors on Richelieu Street said they are broadly supportive of Trump’s Cabinet picks, as well as Musk’s plans for the Department of Government Efficiency. Musk has been highlighting examples of what he considers government waste on X, his social media platform — at times pushing misleading information. Some of those examples have nonetheless resonated in New Castle.

“Why do we need to be studying cats in Russia?” asked Tillia, referring to a program that used cats to study spinal cord injuries.


But as Kathy Davis sat in the “smokers patio” at the Riverside Apartments, she said she is as confident as ever that Trump’s presidency will benefit her.

Davis, a retired artist, subsists on a monthly $1,300 Social Security payment and $75 in food stamps. She rents her studio apartment for $385 per month. Asked whether she worries that Trump’s agenda could hurt the poor, Davis said the incoming president is “too smart for that.”

“You can’t wipe out half of the population” of New Castle, Davis said. “We are old and tired and just want to be taken care of, and Trump has too much common sense, so I don’t think he is going to do anything to hurt us.”

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Oh look. A whole story about how Trump Supporters are stupid and vote against their own interests.

And Lily says calling people stupid and too dumb to know what's best for them isn't "hate."

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So you don't see the inferred mockery being made of Trump supporters, not so subtly saying "Low income Trump supporters worry about losing their benefits?" You can almost hear the WaPo transcriptionist saying the words in an exaggerated hillbilly accent.

I guess you've been reading Leftist media agitprop for so long you've become inured to such nuance.
 
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So you don't see the inferred mockery being made of Trump supporters, not so subtly saying "Low income Trump supporters worry about losing their benefits?" You can almost hear the WaPo transcriptionist saying the words in an exaggerated hillbilly accent.

I guess you've been reading Leftist media agitprop for so long you've become inured to such nuance.

No, I don't see mockery. These people are expressing some fears. Why is it terrible to report it?

Your are imposing how you filter information and your processing onto those reporters and anyone who reads that article. This is a YOU problem.
 
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No, I don't see mockery. These people are expressing some fears. Why is it terrible to report it?

Your are imposing how you filter information and your processing onto those reporters and anyone who reads that article. This is a YOU problem.
Sure, Lily. The Washington Post is a paragon of journalistic integrity.

Are you saying that the partisan, Trump-hating fucktards at the WaPo, an outlet so infamous for its Trump hate and bias that even its billionaire owner, Jeff Bezos, has vowed to "make it fair," does not have a "filter" influencing their reportage?

The whole article seethes with the standard hate you Leftists always spew toward Trump supporters. They are making fun of Trump supporters throughout the entire article. If you can't see that, maybe you should ask your friend to mansplain it to you.
 

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Oh look. A whole story about how Trump Supporters are stupid and vote against their own interests.

And Lily says calling people stupid and too dumb to know what's best for them isn't "hate."

:Whaa?:
The 'Deep State' will punish them as well if Trump keeps sabre rattling with the likes of the US Fed @Reggie_Essent



Try ta bury the Deep State an' they'll bury you.
 
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Sure, Lily. The Washington Post is a paragon of journalistic integrity.

Are you saying that the partisan, Trump-hating fucktards at the WaPo, an outlet so infamous for its Trump hate and bias that even its billionaire owner, Jeff Bezos, has vowed to "make it fair," does not have a "filter" influencing their reportage?

The whole article seethes with the standard hate you Leftists always spew toward Trump supporters. They are making fun of Trump supporters throughout the entire article. If you can't see that, maybe you should ask your friend to mansplain it to you.
You're going off on a tanget.
There is no hate. You simply don't like the truth of these poor peoples' lives exposed. You know damn well, Trump doesn't give a shit about his supporters.

I know that you know.
 

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Oh look. A whole story about how Trump Supporters are stupid and vote against their own interests.

And Lily says calling people stupid and too dumb to know what's best for them isn't "hate."

:Whaa?:
You’ll soon be unhoused sucker.
 

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You're going off on a tanget.
There is no hate. You simply don't like the truth of these poor peoples' lives exposed. You know damn well, Trump doesn't give a shit about his supporters.

I know that you know.

So you know what Trump gives a shit about, do you?

You know, all those Trump supporters your little Wapo Link hates on and make fun of for worrying about their "benefits being cut off " where a whole lot better off when eggs where a buck twenty a dozen and milk was two buck a gallon.

Who do you think is responsible for the massive inflation these poor Trump supporters now have to contend with on their limited benefits?

It is irrefutable and inarguable that the massive inflation we all experience today is the direct result of the policies of the vile, traitorous, evil scum Democrat filth that YOU support.

Anyway, back to the question: Why are you vile Democrat Leftists so filled with hate?

Reggie is not good at Virtue Signalling.

Of course, we all know Talk is Cheap.


Virtue Signaling is for pussy Leftists who don't want the niggers or perverts to cancel them.
 
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So you know what Trump gives a shit about, do you?

You know, all those Trump supporters your little Wapo Link hates on and make fun of for worrying about their "benefits being cut off " where a whole lot better off when eggs where a buck twenty a dozen and milk was two buck a gallon.

Who do you think is responsible for the massive inflation these poor Trump supporters now have to contend with on their limited benefits?

It is irrefutable and inarguable that the massive inflation we all experience today is the direct result of the policies of the vile, traitorous, evil scum Democrat filth that YOU support.

Anyway, back to the question: Why are you vile Democrat Leftists so filled with hate?




Virtue Signaling is for pussy Leftists who don't want the niggers or perverts to cancel them.

Eggs are expensive because of a bird flu that has been raging across the country for several years now.

I'm tired of a country where everyone has a fucking phone practically glued to their hand talking about the price of eggs. I've been poor. I didn't have the things that the "poor suffering American people" have now.

What we have is a population of people with no resilience or fortitude. And the actual poor in America are not helped by any political party, but least of all the GOP. Your kind doesn't even want to provide a meal to a poor kid in school, so kindly go fuck yourself with your crap. Shovel it somewhere else, you reek.
 

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Yes, he is a cheap, tawdry, ignorant and stupid grifter.
I can hardly believe your country voted that guy in again.

Doesn't say much for the ones who voted for him, eh?

He's not even a decent conservative or a good representative of someone on the Right.
 

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I can hardly believe your country voted that guy in again.

Doesn't say much for the ones who voted for him, eh?

He's not even a decent conservative or a good representative of someone on the Right.
Who is a good representative of the Right then?
 

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Who is a good representative of the Right then?

someone like this?


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....someone people can actually believe in.
 

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Ok now how about someone that's actually alive??
OK

How about Glenn Youngkin instead of Trump?

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If they ran him instead of Trump, the outcome would have never been in doubt, and he would have crushed Harris in a landslide.

The Republicans would have done even better with Youngkin that Trump.

they would have gotten 55%+ of the popular vote and almost all of the electoral college.
 

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Eggs are expensive because of a bird flu that has been raging across the country for several years now.

I'm tired of a country where everyone has a fucking phone practically glued to their hand talking about the price of eggs. I've been poor. I didn't have the things that the "poor suffering American people" have now.

What we have is a population of people with no resilience or fortitude. And the actual poor in America are not helped by any political party, but least of all the GOP. Your kind doesn't even want to provide a meal to a poor kid in school, so kindly go fuck yourself with your crap. Shovel it somewhere else, you reek.
You know, when you go off on a furious deflection you sometimes almost sound kinda of conservative.

And no one fed my kids but me. Why should I give the slightest fuck about someone else's kids?

Anyway, back to the point. Why are you people so filled with hate. You hate Trump. You hate Trump supporters. You hate the idea of Making America Great Again. Hate, hate, hate. That's all that ever comes from you people.

Why do you hate me, Lily, when all I ever done all these years is be nice to you and gently try to explain why you're wrong about most everything?

Selling cheap gold sneakers made in china, selling over priced Trump Bibles, selling shitty Trump cologne, selling usless Trump superhero NFT's?


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Anyway, back to the point. Why are you people so filled with hate. You hate Trump. You hate Trump supporters. You hate the idea of Making America Great Again. Hate, hate, hate. That's all that ever comes from you people.
And yet I wonder why the Republicans field all these Extremists like W Bush & Trump to be their standard bearer @Reggie_Essent

Maybe more people would actually like the Republicans and look up to their leaders if they had someone decent at the helm.

Cant the Republicans do any better than that? 'Conservative' isnt bad. I used to be under the impression that it meant restrained & measured vs rash impulsive & downright crazy.

The last 2 Repub Presidents have been real nutjobs. I think Gerald Ford & Ron Paul alluded to that altho they never openly stated it or named WBush & Trump.
 

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Yes, he is a cheap, tawdry, ignorant and stupid grifter.

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You people are just stupid. There is no other explanation.


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Do I need to go on, or are you feeling stupid enough?
 

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Why are you people so filled with hate.
That would be you, bub. The filth you've been spreading for days now is getting repetitive and tiresome.
You hate Trump.
We hate what he does. How he acts. What he says. Not the person.
You hate Trump supporters.
No we don't. We hate your hate. We hate that everything's "us and them" through your myopia. We hate that you always need to "own the libs". We don't understand why you need division to function. We don't understand the cultlike behavior.

You hate the idea of Making America Great Again.
America is already great. It's the Greatest Country on Earth. Anyone that says otherwise seems to be part of the problem. You know, poverty, homelessness, drug abuse, food insecurity, money imbalances, etc.
Hate, hate, hate. That's all that ever comes from you people.
That's all that ever comes from you. And we don't understand it at all.
 

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The big question for Americans as we enter this new period of full-blown oligarchy is whether this generation’s oligarchs will have more success than those in the 1930s and 1850s. They seem to have learned the lessons of history and are now emulating Putin, Orbán, etc., in using lawfare and big money to intimidate or purchase outright the media; this will make a transition back to democracy — like the ones Lincoln and Roosevelt led when the media landscape (and its ownership) was far more diverse — far more difficult. And, as we just saw with the election of Mike Johnson as Speaker, nothing happens in the House without the approval of the billionaires.


The next four years — and, in particular, the next two — will probably decide the fate of America’s form of government for the next several generations. This is no time to check out; to the contrary, it’s the most important moment in our lifetimes to stand up, speak out, and build progressive political institutions while supporting the few brave progressive politicians still standing after the billionaire and
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He ran on lowering grocery prices, for example, telling a rally in August, “From the day I take the oath of office, we will rapidly drive prices down and make America affordable again. … You just watch. They’ll come down fast.” Now, however, he says he won’t even bother because, as he told TIME magazine, “It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up. You know, it’s very hard.”

It reminds one of how in 2016 he promised to raise taxes on the rich so much that his wealthy friends would hate him, to replace Obamacare with a national healthcare system, to support unions and the environment, etc.; all turned out to be naked lies. But, like during his first term, as long as Trump and the Murdoch family (and now Musk) can keep Trump-humpers cocooned in their rightwing media bubble, odds are few of those who voted for him will ever know the extent of his perfidy.
 

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You know, when you go off on a furious deflection you sometimes almost sound kinda of conservative.

And no one fed my kids but me. Why should I give the slightest fuck about someone else's kids?

Anyway, back to the point. Why are you people so filled with hate. You hate Trump. You hate Trump supporters. You hate the idea of Making America Great Again. Hate, hate, hate. That's all that ever comes from you people.

Why do you hate me, Lily, when all I ever done all these years is be nice to you and gently try to explain why you're wrong about most everything?




Hi AnalAna. Did Poppy deliver my message?
Don’t know about hate. You are clearly a fool wha can’t afford to be wrong. Take a new tac.