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Anyone have Video of any past presidents acting like high school bullies in the White House with a visiting foreign dignitary? Come on I want to see precedence for this shitshow.
Trump doesn't have, nor does he need, precedence.

He's his own presidence

See what I did there?
 

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s Oval Office appearance was, without question, the biggest public self-immolation by a country’s leader in world history.

First, Zelensky arrives at the White House dressed like a tiny Ninja. Then, in front of the American media in the Oval Office with President Trump and Vice President Vance sitting right there, he challenges Vance to explain how diplomacy would be possible today when when American diplomacy failed under former President Obama in 2014.

“What kind of diplomacy, JD, are you speaking about?” the Tiny Ninja sarcastically asked like a wiseass. “What do you mean?”

My mouth literally swung open. First off, when you are in a public forum, you do not address the Vice President by his first name, especially after you show up without a tie. Secondly, you don’t disrespect the President and Vice President with your stupid talking points. That’s true whether you are in public or private.

Here’s a guy who is only able to hang on to his country because of ongoing American generosity to the tune of hundreds of billions in cash and weaponry, and there he is talking down to our Vice President and asking him hostile questions while insulting American diplomacy as feckless.

To his great credit, Vance roared back with… “I’m talking about the kind of diplomacy that’s going to end the destruction of your country.” And then Vance laid the pipsqueak out:

Mr. President, with respect I think it’s disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the President for trying to bring an end to this conflict.
Incredibly, Zelensky only got worse from
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Two thoughts went through my head. The first was Jim Acosta, and the second was dictator.

I’ll address dictator first… There is no way in hell Zelensky would’ve thrown his entire country under the bus like that if he had not outlawed Ukraine’s 11 or so rival political parties and canceled elections by declaring martial law. Only a Fidel Castro or Leonid Brezhnev can behave so arrogantly when so much is on the line.

Imagine you are a Ukrainian watching the leader of your country act like an entitled trust fund baby, knowing that without American help, Putin will overrun your country. You can’t screw your own people like that unless you are dictator-for-life.

The Jim Acosta thought came from how much Zelensky’s deliberately rude, unprofessional, and belligerent behavior reminded me of all those fake journalists who treated Trump the exact same way during his first term in the hopes it would land them a cable news anchoring gig.

Basically, Zelensky shit all over the very people who are keeping him and his country alive in order to what exactly…? Receive applause from the regime media?

Barack Obama and Joe Biden treated Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu like he was some sort of virus, but never once did you see Netanyahu appear to be anything but grateful and respectful.

I am on record backing Ukraine and Zelensky. Nothing would’ve made me happier than to see Putin humiliated back to his borders. But enough is enough. Ukraine cannot win the war. We can’t afford to fund this war any longer. People on both sides are dying with no end in sight. Ukraine war supporters have still not answered
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from last week, and now I have one more: Why should we support an unstable, unprofessional, reckless, narcissistic, ungrateful maniac who has no intention of ending the war? He obviously wants a forever war or to lose his country entirely.

He surely doesn’t want peace.

God bless Trump and Vance. They were absolutely magnificent.
 

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that was bullshit. I'm ashamed of our leadership.
He’s Putin‘s bitch…….the funny thing is Putin is on record spouting what an idiot he thinks Trump is…
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, an aide to Putin who was previously director of Russia’s Federal Security Service, made the following comment in an interview with the Moscow newspaper Kommersant:
The election campaign is over. To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.


This is a mind-blowing bit of psychological warfare! The Russians are basically telling Trump: We put you in office. Now it’s time for you to pay us back. Trump thinks Putin respects him :AssKisser: he’s trying to play with the big boy - and all he has is crayons and a dolly…. I don’t know about anyone else but I look forward to the day Putin is done with dementia don, or dementia don pisses him off :STFU3:karma is a bitch after all…

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It is well established that toward the end of this year’s presidential election campaign, Russians created and disseminated
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designed to swing voters away from Vice President Kamala Harris. One such video purported to show illegal Haitian immigrants voting. (The FBI, the director of national intelligence, and the top cybersecurity agency issued a rare
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about that claim, warning that these videos were false and Russian in origin.) Russians also phoned in
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to polling stations in Black neighborhoods that tend to favor Democratic candidates.
 

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He’s Putin‘s bitch…….the funny thing is Putin is on record spouting what an idiot he thinks Trump is…
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, an aide to Putin who was previously director of Russia’s Federal Security Service, made the following comment in an interview with the Moscow newspaper Kommersant:
...if Trump lets Putin in the door, it's bad news for America @AnnaConda

Putin wants to infiltrate the West & Trump is granting him his wish.
 

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...if Trump lets Putin in the door, it's bad news for America @AnnaConda
However he’s bound to piss Putin off, remember we’re dealing with the massive ego of a man showing the early signs of Alzheimer’s…..Putin will tire of the idiot and dementia Donny will disrespect him or just piss him off with his lack of knowledge regarding foreign policy— perhaps there’ll be an unfortunate accident…

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even the MAGots are getting sick of him….that orange fool tends to wear out his welcome in record time
 

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Wow just got a look at that showdown in the Oval Office between Trump, JD and Zelenskyyyy.

Trump isn't going to put up with that back talk.

I'm gonna give Ukraine about another month after which the withdrawal of US aid and little support from European Countries gives Russia the push it needs to go all the way to Kiev.
Trump and Vance’s display in the Oval Office presented America to the rest of the world in a dramatically shameful light, making it plain that our government is no longer a worthy ally to liberal democracies around the world.

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that Kyiv was set to sign with Washington smacks more of a shakedown than a partnership. dementia dons suggestion that American workers mining those resources could be the backstop against further Russian aggression was both a reminder of his priorities and further confirmation that he will not offer anything more substantive. Then came his blistering attack on Mr Zelenskyy.

Trump, typically incoherent, rambled and repeated himself, so his vice president helpfully stepped in, saying Putin invaded Ukraine because then-President Joe Biden was weak and “the path to peace and prosperity is diplomacy.”

Zelenskyy, armed with facts to counter Vance’s MAGA rhetoric, noted that Putin first invaded Ukraine in 2014 (Trump incorrectly tried to correct him, saying it was 2015), and that he occupied Crimea and had been aggressing on Ukrainian territory ever since, including the four years of Trump’s first term. He also noted that Putin’s brutal 2022 invasion was itself a violation of a previous ceasefire — bringing further absurdity to the idea that Putin’s promises for “peace” can be trusted.

That was when Vance went into attack poodle mode, scolding Zelenskyy as “disrespectful” for trying to litigate the matter (i.e. telling the truth with verifiable facts) in front of the American media. Vance barked that he should be thanking Trump and not attacking the administration that is “trying to prevent the destruction of your country.”

Zelenskyy, remarkably, kept his cool, trying to get in a word over the shouts of Trump and Vance, warning them that even though the U.S. has an ocean between itself and Europe, that the country would “feel” the consequences of capitulating to Russia “in the future.”

That’s when it completely went off the rails.

When a reporter asked Trump what would happen if Putin broke a future ceasefire, the leader of the free world replied, “What if a bomb drops on your head right now?” before going on another incoherent rant about how Putin himself had suffered through the “phony witch hunt” and blamed the “Russia Russia Russia” investigation on Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and “shifty Adam Schiff.”

He then turned to Zelenskyy and said, “I’ve empowered you to be a tough guy and I don’t think you’d be a tough guy without the United States,” adding that if he doesn’t “make a deal” with Putin — the U.S. is “out.” Then Trump abruptly ended the press conference, noting “this is going to be great television.” As reporters were shunted out.

Those few minutes in the Oval Office are destined for the history books as a catastrophic and disgraceful moment in the story of America.

After watching this sickening display (not surprised at the immature retard who in my opinion came into the meeting with his own agenda…like dementia don cares about peace) I have more respect for Zelenskyy than I’ve ever had for the reality TV asshat….. I’m ashamed to be an American
 

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Great. Every American car goes up in sticker price 25% or more March 5th.

You didn't realize that? You're probably fine with $7.50 eggs as well.

But you bitched like a fucking banshee about inflation since I got here like a raving lunatic.

Now it's ok?

ok...
Yes.