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The entire Wine business is subbed out. Maintaining, picking, bottling. $32.50 is the wage for the skilled. Yes they not only pay taxes, they pay into SS, that most will never see. I would assume most ag businesses pay similar in Ca. Without them, an apple, orange or Brussel sprouts would be double, maybe triple. Zero representation, aside from growers who need this work force
No one fucking cares.

Either Americans will fill those jobs, or the corrupt Vinyard and Ag owners will go out of business. That's how the free market works.
 

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You are a true moron.
First how can I be agreeing with someone when I held my view before those people and ideology came to being?
. Secondly, I have explained my views on the subject and they plainly don't agree with MAGA - who are social conservatives as the basis of their position. (you may not believe it, but there is a wide chasm between social and economic conservatives)
Third, the right wing/conservative economic stance is that of Libertarians...essentially open borders - free flow of labor.

Please discuss this with your psychiatrist. Clearly I am not getting through to you by way of reason.
Doves totally beat your dick into the dirt, Holliday. Accept defeat like a man, you pussy. You are totally fucken owned here, dude.
 

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No one fucking cares.

Either Americans will fill those jobs, or the corrupt Vinyard and Ag owners will go out of business. That's how the free market works.
Why haven’t they already? Most Mericans do not do This type of work, eventhought it pays well. By the way, what do y’all farm in Chicago. Wanna take a guess what rich vintners contributed to fatso camPaige, and you call them corrupt?
 
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Doves totally beat your dick into the dirt, Holliday. Accept defeat like a man, you pussy. You are totally fucken owned here, dude.
Wingman air-claims don't count, Raggs.

Oh, been meaning to get to this...now that's the end of the day on the Best Coast...
...I will.

Once upon a time on a message board far far away
a fellow poster explained to me why he trolled conservative.
He said, he had been advised that it was easier to troll conservative because it didn't require thinking.
Fair enough I thought.
Years later that poster told me the distinction/line between his board persona and his natural person had become blurred.

I worry for you Raggs, that that has happened to you.
Both of you had some intelligence, but laziness was your undoing.
 

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Well, it just doesn't feel good. But if we were men, we'd be out buying sports cars worth tens of thousands of dollars and posting pictures of it to people that truly don't give a fuck.

I still rather be a sow.

fify
 

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Well, it just doesn't feel good. But if we were men, we'd be out buying sports cars worth tens of thousands of dollars and posting pictures of it to people that truly don't give a fuck.

I still rather be a woman.
No. That happens earlier for men. Some guys take mistresses or buy fancy sports cars, some guys buy a nice guitar. I was one of the guitar guys.
 
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You're sounding like a muslim Jihadi. A Jihadi will tell you straiught up that they know what "God's Plan for Human Evolution"
LoLz, dude. Islam does not even teach the physical evolution of the human species (Adam and Eve fully formed 6K years ago like fundi xtians), never mind spiritual involution and evolution - in the material world.
.. It doesn't even believe in a process of recurring births.
Total primitives.

Stop the trolling, Raggs. Yer mom would cry to see you now.

and that is to slaughter all non-mulsims.

Isn't that evil conservatism according to your weird definition of conservatism?

Yes it is, Raggs. That's what conservatism does, it imposes its ideology on others, it restricts freedoms and liberty.
. Try reading the DoI and US Constitution some time. All of that Liberal philosophy is about the protection of individual rights - those which Islam, MAGA, Nazism, commieism disregard.

You don't get it. You conservatives just don't.
We even got one retard here who isn't a conservative but wants to deny other women the right to bodily autonomy.
Here's my advice on that.
You don't want an abortion, don't get one.
You want the right to pollute our air and water, and land, but you have no right to compromise the health and welfare of other people. What don't you understand?

WAAAAH, you have to pay taxes.
Hey buy an island and build your own roads, cart your own garbage, convey water to your nest.
Dude, really? You can't even trim your own hedges and mow the lawn. LoLz at Raggs.
 
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Reread my post.

The Bill Of Rights has nothing to do with illegals.

You must be an illegal or married to one, or know one.
LoLz, STFU ya damn commie, or Nazi. Individual liberties baaaaad.
Maybe read my views on immigration some time.
They do not include treating people who were lured here with a promise of employment being disppeared on a dicktater's whim without regard for consequence.

The phrase "to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" refers to a fundamental right guaranteed by the
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, which protects individuals against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government. This protection is rooted in the idea that every person's home is their castle and should be free from arbitrary government intrusion.
Key aspects of this right include:
  • Protection against unreasonable searches and seizures: The Fourth Amendment prohibits the government from searching or seizing your person, home, papers, or effects without a warrant based on probable cause, or in specific, limited exceptions to the warrant requirement.
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    and Warrants:
    To obtain a warrant, the government must demonstrate probable cause—a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or that evidence of a crime will be found in the place to be searched—and the warrant must be specific about the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
  • Historical Roots: The principle behind this amendment was influenced by English common law and was also reflected in the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights, drafted by John Adams.
  • Modern Applications: The Fourth Amendment's protections are applied to various situations, including searches of property, arrests, stop-and-frisk situations, safety inspections, wiretaps, and other forms of surveillance.
  • Exceptions to the Warrant Requirement: While the warrant requirement is central, the Supreme Court has recognized several exceptions, such as consent to search, searches incident to a lawful arrest, and situations involving exigent circumstances.
...and yeah, that even applies to illegal aliens.
Why you hate Habeas Corpus, Fritz?
 
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LoLz, STFU ya damn commie, or Nazi. Individual liberties baaaaad.
Maybe read my views on immigration some time.
They do not include treating people who were lured here with a promise of employment being disppeared on a dicktater's whim without regard for consequence.

The phrase "to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" refers to a fundamental right guaranteed by the
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, which protects individuals against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government. This protection is rooted in the idea that every person's home is their castle and should be free from arbitrary government intrusion.
Key aspects of this right include:
  • Protection against unreasonable searches and seizures: The Fourth Amendment prohibits the government from searching or seizing your person, home, papers, or effects without a warrant based on probable cause, or in specific, limited exceptions to the warrant requirement.
  • Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
    and Warrants:
    To obtain a warrant, the government must demonstrate probable cause—a reasonable belief that a crime has been committed or that evidence of a crime will be found in the place to be searched—and the warrant must be specific about the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
  • Historical Roots: The principle behind this amendment was influenced by English common law and was also reflected in the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights, drafted by John Adams.
  • Modern Applications: The Fourth Amendment's protections are applied to various situations, including searches of property, arrests, stop-and-frisk situations, safety inspections, wiretaps, and other forms of surveillance.
  • Exceptions to the Warrant Requirement: While the warrant requirement is central, the Supreme Court has recognized several exceptions, such as consent to search, searches incident to a lawful arrest, and situations involving exigent circumstances.
...and yeah, that even applies to illegal aliens.
Why you hate Habeas Corpus, Fritz?

You can click and paste any and all declarations you need to try to deflect from the point that I want all illegals gone. Let me reiterate to you, because you seem to have a comprehension issue.

Show me specifically in the Fourth Amendment where it words/states that any or all apply to illegal aliens, and not to "Non-Citizens?" A non-citizen is a broad term used for those on approved visas, student visas, and heads of state and anyone here visiting or on business. The Fourth Amendment does not apply to those here illegally, because being here illegally is a Federal Crime, and when a citizen or an illegal alien are found guilty of a federal offense they'll lose certain rights. Yes? If you look closely at the set up of the 13 colonies, they used banishment as a punishment. It's on the books and it's a very outdated law. But, there is reference to this in the Supreme Court where they deemed it unconstitutional, though they did not find it to be a cruel and unusual punishment. So, there is presidence to eject anyone no matter their citizenship status. So keep your arguments in context. The Fourth Amendment only applies to those who are here LEGALLY.

You also missed one key point, or maybe you didn't want this to be brought up. After 9/11 the government passed something late at night called The Homeland Security Act. There are provisions in there giving Federal authorities, and those they assign the power to ignore any and all citizen rights as outlined in their strategic implementation of countering Homeland sleeper cells or any threat to national security. The Fourth Amendment was turned into a pipe dream when that Soviet Era paranoia was made into law. With that being said, we as citizens don't even have protections that are supposed to be afforded to us as American people, and you want to give added rights to people who are here illegally and want to do harm to our Homeland?

You sound like someone who wants to let America crumble under the weight of those who only want to take advantage of what America has to offer. You also sound very ignorant on anything political. You're just like a fish at a poker table. You let the cards play you, when in reality you should be playing the player. After reading your back and forth with Dove, it's readily apparent you have never taken or even heard of a Political Science course. Your statements on how and what the government does sounds like an 8-year-old from the Congo trying to explain the genesis of anti-matter. In addition, you've also included illegal search and seizures as one of your main focal points, when in reality that can be nullified by a warrant signed by a judge in that jurisdiction, so therefore I.C.E. does not have to and will not adhere to the Fourth Amendment given the current emergency situation we are in right now regarding illegals in this country.

I noticed you got a little butthurt when I mentioned maybe you knew some illegals or are maybe married to one. Are you a citizen or a resident of the United States? Do you know the difference between a resident and a citizen? It's one if the first questions they asked me in Poly-Sci 101.
 

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You needlessly complicate things because you think it makes you look smarter.

Can't blame for trying to look smarter because, well, you know ...

Look, it's really simple anymore. In todays political and "cultural" landscape anything "Left" is evil and bad and anything I say is cool, is cool and good.

Leftist suck and are evil. We good and wholesome conservative libertarian types are not. See?
That was... beautiful. You should run for office! *wipes tear*
 

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Great news peeps, Trump just negotiated a 15% inflation via tariffs in the price of everything coming from Europe! If that makes it a little bit easier for Alex Soros to buy his own Island, I’m excited for him! /s
Alex and George Soros are YOUR guys... aka far left, ANTIFA/BLM/NGO-funding vermin.

The amount of damage that cunt's shekels have done to the west is immeasurable.
 

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Holiday is so fucking tediously stupid...

Dumb motherfucker doesn't even know not to call someone a nazi/commie in the same sentence.
 
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Holiday is so fucking tediously stupid...

Dumb motherfucker doesn't even know not to call someone a nazi/commie in the same sentence.
LoLz - I didn't call anyone a Nazi and comie. That would have made good parody though since it's what conservatives often do.
ya damn commie, or Nazi
or....why because they both deny individual rights, not because they are otherwise ideologically the same.
Once again Fruit proves he's soooo stupid he can't read or comprehend straight forward English.

..but then, being frum daaaawn uwwwndeh everything is up-side-down with him.

LoLz at the mowran Fruit.