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It doesnt work like that, retard.

Maybe stick to actual medical research and not partisan political articles about medical research.

Were you bitch at anti vaxx leftists like Lotus when we were having outbreaks for shit like measles? No. No you weren't.

And you very likely dont know what variants even are. And variants are not "made" by people. It's been around since before the Covid shot. It was found in India first. Delta variant 1 is just more contagious than the other variants. If you have the vaccine you should be fine.....you get develope a severe case.

Viruses mutate.... that's what they do. Influenza does it.

And it's obvious you dont take this virus seriously at all and just view it as a political talking point. You guys who do this will literally tailor information to conform to your partisan views and reject or push info depending on what your "side" is saying. Its pathetic. It really is.

I know you want people to think you are some nonpartisan "authentic liberal" even though we can all see you are not. The only thing political that you be upset about if you were a true liberal is how a few governors stepped in and stopped doctors from practicing medicine by banning HCQ from off label use. It was a disgusting partisan stunt during a time where the public was vulnerable and its unforgivable.

And here you are convoluting facts to blame people for using their autonomy to make decisions you dont like of something that happens naturally all the time. Viruses will ALWAYS mutate.
 
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Of course I know that some people don't understand that if a virus can't spread
. it can't mutate. We call them Freedumb Fighters, aka dumbass cons.

...anyway - no replies on this? I thought someone would be interested.

Unvaccinated people don't only risk their own health: Their bodies become 'variant factories'
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Sat, July 3, 2021, 10:31 PM·3 min read



  • Unvaccinated people can be a driving force for new variants, an infectious disease expert said.
  • "Unvaccinated people are potential variant factories," infectious disease expert Dr. William Schaffner said.
  • Mutations that replicate can become variants and unvaccinated hosts more easily allow for that.
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People who have not been vaccinated against COVID-19 not only risk their own health but are "variant factories," an infectious disease expert said.
"Unvaccinated people are potential variant factories," Dr. William Schaffner, a professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, said.
"The more unvaccinated people there are, the more opportunities for the virus to multiply," he added.
Variants evolve in the body of a person who is infected with the coronavirus.
"When it does, it mutates, and it could throw off a variant mutation that is even more serious down the road," Schaffner said.
Viruses, including the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, endure mutations, and while some mutations may harm the virus, others could help it. For example, a mutation could help a virus be more transmissible.
When the virus spreads to another person, the mutation will replicate and also spread, and if it's successful and continues to spread, it becomes a variant.
Unvaccinated people provide the opportunity for the mutation to continue to replicate.
"As mutations come up in viruses, the ones that persist are the ones that make it easier for the virus to spread in the population," Andrew Pekosz, a microbiologist and immunologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said."Every time the viruses changes, that gives the virus a different platform to add more mutations. Now we have viruses that spread more efficiently."

Essentially if a virus can't spread, it can't mutate.
 

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The fact that you expected the virus to just stop spreading is incredible. That's completely unrealistic scientifically and medically.

Hey H have we stopped influenza from spreading and mutating? No. Have we stopped HIV from spreading and mutating? No. We even still viruses spread and mutate that we have been vaccinating for.

Were you pissed off when fucking babies were getting measles and whooping cough? Were blaming leftists who were spreading misinformation about Big Pharmas evil vaccines? I'm sure you would NOW that that whole attitude seeped into the right wing.

If you expected that this vaccine was going to eradicate Covid and stop mutations that were found BEFORE the vaccine was widely available.....well your premise is ignorant.

And you really want to make this political when it shouldnt be. People like you who run around politicizing this have done insane amounts of harm.

And you probably think mutations mean "stronger" because you have no clue how viruses work.

The reason the variants are an issue are the same reasons why influenza strains are an issue. Because the vaccine may not protect you as it wont recognize the protein. Vaccine hesitancy has nothing to do with politics except on the fringe and everything to do with the experimental status and lack of research on how it impacts human beings.

All people you do is double hesitant people down. Blaming people for a natural occurence because they didnt put something in their body that dont feel confident about is disgusting and the opposite of what an "authentic liberal" would do.

And again.... if you are not presenting studies and medical/scientific information I'm not reading it. I don't rely on articles ABOUT medical research. I'm not dumb or laymen enough to need to do that.

You only are talking about this because you are a partisan hack trying to exploit the virus to justify your irrational and ghoulish hatred of people who disagree with you. You cant have a productive and honest discussion about it.

All you leftist only care about Covid or "science" when you can warp into some "left good....trumptard bad" bullshit.

Yes. If it cant spread it cant mutate. That ship sailed when it got out of a lab, you fuggin doofus. It had BEEN spreading and mutating.

Because of this, it was NEVER on the table to stop mutations and spread. Its like influenza now. People will likely have to get yearly shots. It has fuck all to do with "anti vaxxers" and fuck all to do with politics.

Grow up.
 
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Anti Vaxers are causing 15 story tidal waves in the South Pacific

more news as it becomes available
 

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Good grief I'm reading like a dyslexic.

I should probably start proof reading LOL.
 

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it is going to be around forever just like the flu no matter what we do. There are over six billion people still unvaccinatwd, mostly in the third world, and at least a billion of the vaccinated used the Communist Chinese vaccine which really doesn't work. People like Holliday really don't have a handle on basic facts.
 

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I'm not a primetime or youtube propagandist, but I think I see a pattern here.
 

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I'm not a primetime or youtube propagandist, but I think I see a pattern here.
Shhhhhhhh - don't mention facts to these dolts.
. Facts are not their friend.

Facts are savage killers of contard bullshit.

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First of all.....neither of you idiots cited a medical source. Some guy on twitter and apnews is NOT actually a valid medical source. So yeah you might be a "youtube" propagandandist....looks like you are a twitter/media propagandandists.

And now you are saying that.....surprise surprise.....99.2% of the Covid mortalities were unvaccinated people.

Which isnt even the fucking topic, now you are on another conversation.

What is your claim NOW to which these twitter feed and apnews "facts" are decimating exactly?

You guys are brain scrambled wack jobs arguing about shit you aren't qualified to argue because you want the virus to be a political prop for your bad leftarded policies.
 
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I'm not a primetime or youtube propagandist, but I think I see a pattern here.
Shhhhhhhh - don't mention facts to these dolts.
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Facts are savage killers of contard bullshit.

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No one died, if you don't count the bodies.
If you don't test for death then death will all but disappear.

What's happening in unvaccinated Missouri - could it be a Deep State plot?

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So you are both retarded.

Got it.

You know what? We should just leave you drooling ass bots to argue whatever imaginary shit you are arguing. The rest us cant hear the voices in your heads.

You go get your shot, keep your shit for brains politics out of health care, and dont waste your time bitching because you cant force other people to make decisions you approve of.

Itll be alright. Dont lick toilet seats.
 

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First of all.....neither of you idiots cited a medical source. Some guy on twitter and apnews is NOT actually a valid medical source. So yeah you might be a "youtube" propagandandist....looks like you are a twitter/media propagandandists.

And now you are saying that.....surprise surprise.....99.2% of the Covid mortalities were unvaccinated people.

Which isnt even the fucking topic, now you are on another conversation.

What is your claim NOW to which these twitter feed and apnews "facts" are decimating exactly?

You guys are brain scrambled wack jobs arguing about shit you aren't qualified to argue because you want the virus to be a political prop for your bad leftarded policies.
Hush.
 

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Both of you seem too stupid to understand my point so I will make it again using different words and see if that helps you grasp the subject this time. 1) I am already vaccinated so, no, you fucktard, I am not an anti-vaxxer, you idiots. 2) It will be decades, if ever, until even half of the world's population gets vaccinated so covid 19 is not going to go away anytime soon and is more then likely here forever. The steady rate of mutations and adaptations is going to continue in covid just like it does the flu, no, a few hundred million people more or less getting vaccinated in the 1st world won't change that reality. 3) I still encourage everyone to get vaccinated by Holliday's hyperventilating and attempts to blame a tiny fraction of the world's population while ignoring that the exact same applies to some where between 70%-95% of the entire human population is retarded.

This predictions are simply how this is going to work out and everyone but you two have already figured it out.
 

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it is going to be around forever just like the flu no matter what we do. There are over six billion people still unvaccinatwd, mostly in the third world, and at least a billion of the vaccinated used the Communist Chinese vaccine which really doesn't work. People like Holliday really don't have a handle on basic facts.

Yes, but not in the present form. It will keep changing, just like the flu. And widespread vaccination could have some impact.

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it is going to be around forever just like the flu no matter what we do. There are over six billion people still unvaccinatwd, mostly in the third world, and at least a billion of the vaccinated used the Communist Chinese vaccine which really doesn't work. People like Holliday really don't have a handle on basic facts.

Yes, but not in the present form. It will keep changing, just like the flu. And widespread vaccination could have some impact.

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You just repeated what I said. What do you think continuing to mutate and adapt means?

As I said three times now it is never going to go away and everyone will need periodic boosters or risk infection which ever is theor choice. That is inevitable given the size of the human population globally.
 

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it is going to be around forever just like the flu no matter what we do. There are over six billion people still unvaccinatwd, mostly in the third world, and at least a billion of the vaccinated used the Communist Chinese vaccine which really doesn't work. People like Holliday really don't have a handle on basic facts.

Yes, but not in the present form. It will keep changing, just like the flu. And widespread vaccination could have some impact.

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You just repeated what I said. What do you think continuing to mutate and adapt means?

As I said three times now it is never going to go away and everyone will need periodic boosters or risk infection which ever is theor choice. That is inevitable given the size of the human population globally.

Settle down. I was only responding to the post I quoted, nothing else. No repetition in there at all.
 
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Both of you seem too stupid to understand my point so
Well, in that case why not write something we don't already know?

1) ..and I applauded you for it then, since, and now again.
2) Still, we are talking about what happens here in the US since the vaccine is available to all.
I wonder, would we have Polio and Small Pox if vaccines weren't mandated.
Super radical conservative, vaccine resistant communities still suffer from Polio, you know.
Smallpox has been eradicated. Guess how?

3) Good for you (clapsOderstinkonthebackinapproval smiley)

70%-95% of the entire human population is retarded.
Of course among conservatives that number leaps to 100%.
 

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it is going to be around forever just like the flu no matter what we do. There are over six billion people still unvaccinatwd, mostly in the third world, and at least a billion of the vaccinated used the Communist Chinese vaccine which really doesn't work. People like Holliday really don't have a handle on basic facts.

Yes, but not in the present form. It will keep changing, just like the flu. And widespread vaccination could have some impact.

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You just repeated what I said. What do you think continuing to mutate and adapt means?

As I said three times now it is never going to go away and everyone will need periodic boosters or risk infection which ever is theor choice. That is inevitable given the size of the human population globally.
Told you she was utterly dumb
 

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Both of you seem too stupid to understand my point so I will make it again using different words and see if that helps you grasp the subject this time. 1) I am already vaccinated so, no, you fucktard, I am not an anti-vaxxer, you idiots. 2) It will be decades, if ever, until even half of the world's population gets vaccinated so covid 19 is not going to go away anytime soon and is more then likely here forever. The steady rate of mutations and adaptations is going to continue in covid just like it does the flu, no, a few hundred million people more or less getting vaccinated in the 1st world won't change that reality. 3) I still encourage everyone to get vaccinated by Holliday's hyperventilating and attempts to blame a tiny fraction of the world's population while ignoring that the exact same applies to some where between 70%-95% of the entire human population is retarded.

This predictions are simply how this is going to work out and everyone but you two have already figured it out.
So what is your point?
 

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Both of you seem too stupid to understand my point so I will make it again using different words and see if that helps you grasp the subject this time. 1) I am already vaccinated so, no, you fucktard, I am not an anti-vaxxer, you idiots. 2) It will be decades, if ever, until even half of the world's population gets vaccinated so covid 19 is not going to go away anytime soon and is more then likely here forever. The steady rate of mutations and adaptations is going to continue in covid just like it does the flu, no, a few hundred million people more or less getting vaccinated in the 1st world won't change that reality. 3) I still encourage everyone to get vaccinated by Holliday's hyperventilating and attempts to blame a tiny fraction of the world's population while ignoring that the exact same applies to some where between 70%-95% of the entire human population is retarded.

This predictions are simply how this is going to work out and everyone but you two have already figured it out.
So what is your point?
He was calling you a homo. In very technical terms
 
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Both of you seem too stupid to understand my point so I will make it again using different words and see if that helps you grasp the subject this time. 1) I am already vaccinated so, no, you fucktard, I am not an anti-vaxxer, you idiots. 2) It will be decades, if ever, until even half of the world's population gets vaccinated so covid 19 is not going to go away anytime soon and is more then likely here forever. The steady rate of mutations and adaptations is going to continue in covid just like it does the flu, no, a few hundred million people more or less getting vaccinated in the 1st world won't change that reality. 3) I still encourage everyone to get vaccinated by Holliday's hyperventilating and attempts to blame a tiny fraction of the world's population while ignoring that the exact same applies to some where between 70%-95% of the entire human population is retarded.

This predictions are simply how this is going to work out and everyone but you two have already figured it out.
So what is your point?
. See, let me tell ya something here.
I think this is a good place to point this out.

A principle difference between Libertarians and Liberals is this:

Libertarians, in practice and philosophy believe that their responsibility to other citizens (whatever that word means to them - since borders and law are superfluous concepts), end with respecting their rights
(whatever they may be since there need be no guiding documents or laws in their perfect society).
Whereas Liberals regard themselves as members of a community and nation with responsibilities to it and its members. Freedom and liberty does not mean, leave me alone - I got mine so fuck you.

. I think that is a rather significant philosophical difference with regard to these pandemic times, and
it is well illustrated in the selfishness of conservatives.
 

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Both of you seem too stupid to understand my point so I will make it again using different words and see if that helps you grasp the subject this time. 1) I am already vaccinated so, no, you fucktard, I am not an anti-vaxxer, you idiots. 2) It will be decades, if ever, until even half of the world's population gets vaccinated so covid 19 is not going to go away anytime soon and is more then likely here forever. The steady rate of mutations and adaptations is going to continue in covid just like it does the flu, no, a few hundred million people more or less getting vaccinated in the 1st world won't change that reality. 3) I still encourage everyone to get vaccinated by Holliday's hyperventilating and attempts to blame a tiny fraction of the world's population while ignoring that the exact same applies to some where between 70%-95% of the entire human population is retarded.

This predictions are simply how this is going to work out and everyone but you two have already figured it out.
So what is your point?
. See, let me tell ya something here.
I think this is a good place to point this out.

A principle difference between Libertarians and Liberals is this:

Libertarians, in practice and philosophy believe that their responsibility to other citizens (whatever that word means to them - since borders and law are superfluous concepts), end with respecting their rights
(whatever they may be since there need be no guiding documents or laws in their perfect society).
Whereas Liberals regard themselves as members of a community and nation with responsibilities to it and its members. Freedom and liberty does not mean, leave me alone - I got mine so fuck you.

. I think that is a rather significant philosophical difference with regard to these pandemic times, and
it is well illustrated in the selfishness of conservatives.

Yup. It's hugely relevant philosophical issue. That "I got mine, fuck you" attitude is what is bringing on the end times in the USA. When you ignore your community and fellow Americans, you do so at the detriment of everyone, yourself included.
 

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Both of you seem too stupid to understand my point so I will make it again using different words and see if that helps you grasp the subject this time. 1) I am already vaccinated so, no, you fucktard, I am not an anti-vaxxer, you idiots. 2) It will be decades, if ever, until even half of the world's population gets vaccinated so covid 19 is not going to go away anytime soon and is more then likely here forever. The steady rate of mutations and adaptations is going to continue in covid just like it does the flu, no, a few hundred million people more or less getting vaccinated in the 1st world won't change that reality. 3) I still encourage everyone to get vaccinated by Holliday's hyperventilating and attempts to blame a tiny fraction of the world's population while ignoring that the exact same applies to some where between 70%-95% of the entire human population is retarded.

This predictions are simply how this is going to work out and everyone but you two have already figured it out.
So what is your point?
. See, let me tell ya something here.
I think this is a good place to point this out.

A principle difference between Libertarians and Liberals is this:

Libertarians, in practice and philosophy believe that their responsibility to other citizens (whatever that word means to them - since borders and law are superfluous concepts), end with respecting their rights
(whatever they may be since there need be no guiding documents or laws in their perfect society).
Whereas Liberals regard themselves as members of a community and nation with responsibilities to it and its members. Freedom and liberty does not mean, leave me alone - I got mine so fuck you.

. I think that is a rather significant philosophical difference with regard to these pandemic times, and
it well illustrated in the selfishness of conservatives.

You are not an authentic liberal.

Your comments, views and idiotic hatred of other people tell us this.

You might THINK you are, but you are definately NOT.

You are spewing your authoritarian great good "community" bullshit.

You have no actual expertise or knowledge about how viruses even work. You are just having a pissy fit tantrum throwing around ignorant falsehoods because YOU decided everyone should get the Covid vaccine based on information YOU find valid.

YOU dont get to make medical decisions for other people. And you've assumed all these conservatives....and only conservatives.....are just rejecting the vaccine because of what, youtube?

Your thinking is both ignorant and psychotic. And you are nothing but a bitch boy statists foaming at the mouth pulling bullshit out of your ass because you cant control other peoples lives.

Absolutely NO ONE is obligated to accept a substance into their BODY.....and absolutely NO ONE owes YOU an explanation for it.

If you are too shallow and stupid to understand it's a nuanced issue and people have a variety of very valid concerns, well than that's too bad isnt it?

Because peoples medical decisions have nothing to do with your dumb shit imagine partisan cry fest. Not everything revolves around YOU. This is between individuals and their doctor.

It's not between YOU and "cons" and some dumb fuck on twitter or your latest corporate shill link.

You guys are shit fucking horrible people. Insufferably ignorant, dishonest and controlling. If my community was made up of people like you? I would catch Covid again and go door to door coughing. You guys have no respect for other people and civil liberties of other people.

A bunch of selfish and statist liars. Asshokes like you guys who coerce medical interventions for whatever YOUR idea of "community" is need to go back to East Germany 1947 where you belong.