So All of You "Conservative Liberals" Out There...

[Holliday1881]

...do you stop at traffic control devices when you are driving, of just barrel ahead screaming FREEEEDUMB!.
.No one is going to tell me what I can do with my body. Autonomy!
I mean who the hell are these authoritarians telling people how to protect themselves,
or for that matter what we can eject into our environment, or that we have to be educated formally, or vaccinated against deadly disease.

Fuck convention and law. If you're a true Liberal you just do as you please, let everyone else take care of themselves.

...Right?

 

[Admin.]

Rand Paul, Ayn Rand and That Boebert Bimbo walk into a Bar......

 

[Holliday1881]

Rand Paul, Ayn Rand and That Boebert Bimbo walk into a Bar......

...and they're all white so they get snockered.

 

[Dove]

...do you stop at traffic control devices when you are driving, of just barrel ahead screaming FREEEEDUMB!.
.No one is going to tell me what I can do with my body. Autonomy!
I mean who the hell are these authoritarians telling people how to protect themselves,
or for that matter what we can eject into our environment, or that we have to be educated formally, or vaccinated against deadly disease.

Fuck convention and law. If you're a true Liberal you just do as you please, let everyone else take care of themselves.

...Right?

This is fucking stupid. And I think you know that.

And if you truly lack discernment so deeply that you think traffick laws are anywhere NEAR comparable to medical interventions, you are a level of stupid that is dangerous to everyone.

Admin claimed you guys "understand things". When do we get to see that? Because all we ever see from you people is an endless cascade of fallacies, false equivalence....all pitiful and basic attempts at manipulation that anyone with a brain can easily see through.

So are we gonna have body liscences? Are we gonna have to register our bodies every year so we can operate them?

I mean since the state manages the roads and vehicles.....may as well let the state manage our fucking bodies and our medical care.

Fucking stupid. You guys are just stupid. Of course youd see a parallel in something like this. You are dumb as fuck.

"Hur der if the state tells you that you need to buckly up in cars....they should be able to forcibly inject a pharmaceutical into your body. Dont be so inconsistent you dumb con!!"

Right H. Since laws exist.....and we are okay with laws existing, that MUST mean that we should support ANY and ALL laws or we are hypocrites. That's your big "gotcha". That if we make an agreement to wear a seat belt in our voluntary transaction with the state regarding using tax payer owned roads......well than we should let make them make ALL our decisions for us including our private medical decisions.

SMDH.

 

[Dove]

How many people have a seatbelt allergy? How many people have an underlying medical condition that makes a seatbelt contradictory?

How many side effects does a seatbelt have? Am i at a higher risk of clots and myocarditis after a drive to the store? Should the DMV take over public health?

So fucking dumb. H people who compare vehicle and traffick laws to bodies and medicine have absolutely no business talking about it. This line of logic is so overwhelmingly ignorant that seeing a grown adult use it is genuinely scary as fuck.

You really are a useful idiot. More than willing to support actual fascism and an authoritarian state while mocking and hating people who want their rights and liberties preserved.

And Admin "loved" your post.... he ain't no real liberal. You are statists.

 

[Admin.]

How many people have a seatbelt allergy? How many people have an underlying medical condition that makes a seatbelt contradictory?

How many side effects does a seatbelt have? Am i at a higher risk of clots and myocarditis after a drive to the store? Should the DMV take over public health?

So fucking dumb. H people who compare vehicle and traffick laws to bodies and medicine have absolutely no business talking about it. This line of logic is so overwhelmingly ignorant that seeing a grown adult use it is genuinely scary as fuck.

You really are a useful idiot. More than willing to support actual fascism and an authoritarian state while mocking and hating people who want their rights and liberties preserved.

And Admin "loved" your post.... he ain't no real liberal. You are statists.

I asked a buddy of mine and he says those are all words.

 

[Dove]

How many people have a seatbelt allergy? How many people have an underlying medical condition that makes a seatbelt contradictory?

How many side effects does a seatbelt have? Am i at a higher risk of clots and myocarditis after a drive to the store? Should the DMV take over public health?

So fucking dumb. H people who compare vehicle and traffick laws to bodies and medicine have absolutely no business talking about it. This line of logic is so overwhelmingly ignorant that seeing a grown adult use it is genuinely scary as fuck.

You really are a useful idiot. More than willing to support actual fascism and an authoritarian state while mocking and hating people who want their rights and liberties preserved.

And Admin "loved" your post.... he ain't no real liberal. You are statists.

I asked a buddy of mine and he says those are all words.

So basically you guys are so dumb its scary.

So much for understand things. Dr. Suess would confound you.

 

[Lily]

How many people wonder why we don't shut down the country because of cancer?

 

[Holliday1881]

Now uh...before I dive headlong into the afore mentioned bender and find myself a week or more later in a cheap hotel room next to a full breasted woman named Lana (who I can not remember from the night before) in a cheap Saint Louie hotel room, let me say this about all-a-that.

It is not 1775/1787
If only it were...a brew was but a penny,

...and you could get good conversation over it,
not like today in a place like this.

Is a vaccine like driving law (?) How possibly so?

.Do people have allergies to driving restraints? (fuckingeyeroll smiley)
No - but they do have brain damage whether from laudanum or street drugs.

.Inherent in our system which grants "freedoms" under it's law (yes, GRANTS freedoms),
grants, because freedoms are not inherent in the human condition (unless fought for off of the material plane of existence),
.but are granted in a nation which values personal freedom, as in the United States,
with the stipulation that its citizens participate in that society.
. There are a few responsibilities that are inherent in citizenship
not least of which include respecting the rights of others and not violating their rights.

The Right to Life:
Taking the life of another through a willful act
or through ignorance (a responsibility in a democracy is to be informed, so no one can be uninformed through the media of threats and dangers to the public) is a violation of the contract between state and citizen.

To those who think traffic laws protect only them and are silly:
Traffic laws also protect the community to which you as a citizen are responsible. (complications involve businesses, insurance etc.)
Driver's "privilege" includes responsibilities and qualifications.
You don't qualify by exam and you don't have privileges. Violate the law and face consequence.

Re: Communicable/ highly transmissible fatal illnesses:
Citizens have a Right to Life which another citizen has no right to compromise.

In knowledge of a highly communicable illness which they may be carrying (and in spite of all reasonable precaution not to transmit - ie: vaccination) if a citizen callously disregards the right to life of another citizen

...2nd amendment
Or they are in violation of their contract as a responsible citizen and under penalty as such.
Example - freedom of movement restricted.

It's plain enough.

Liberalism does not mean everyone can do as they please.
They have responsibility to fellow citizens.

 

[Dove]

H you are not a liberal. Liberals value individual rights and liberties.

You are arguing that we are a collective that should be managed by the fucking state. Down to our MEDICAL decisions being made FOR us.

And you are twisting it to argue for public health. You want the collective to come before the individual. You are an authoritarian. You legitimately sound like Hitler right now. That's not hyperbole....he also argued for community over the individual.

And you are not even right. The covid vaccine does NOT stop people from spread. The ONLY benefit is to the individual.

So you would do better to shut your fuckhole about what medical decisions people should make. You are not a fucking doctor. You have zero credentials or knowledge in virology or vaccination. Or any medical training. So you have literally no right to bark and slobber about who should be having any medical intervention.

And if you really want the state to be your daddy so badly, go pick one of the several countries where the government rules over its subjects, isnt concerned with individual rights and autonomy and "protects" them by forcing to do whatever they decide is for the greater good. China or Russia sound like your kinda places.

But dont fucking sit and be retarded enough to call yourself a liberal while you spout off these hairbrained false equivalences arguing why YOU think the government should coerce and force people to get ANY sort of medical intervention. This is ignorant and authoritarian hogwash

EVERY time you leave your house, you are taking all kinds of RISKS. You risk an auto accident. An attack. An injury. You risk catching a VIRUS. You can be a big boy and take responsibility for your own damn self and take common sense measures to protect yourself from these risks. And you need to grow up and accept that other people are likewise responsible for THEIR own health and safety.

And what measures they chose to take is none of your damn business.

Part of MY socail contract is I abide laws and I'm pleasant and kind. I am okay with some taxes coming out of my earnings to help with public resources that I also use. But the buck STOPS there. Anything beyond that I CHOSE to do for my community is my choice.

No one is entitled to anything of mine, least of all my BODY.

And I'm not "pro life", I'm straight up anti abortion. People refusing to get a fucking vaccine is not the same thing as not wearing a seatbelt, and its sure the fuck NOT equivalent to murdering people. People making this comparison are hysterical, irrational and the emotionally manipulating people. Abortion is the direct murder of another living human being. You are unhinged if you think I'm gonna by into that blatantly manipulative bullshit that people who do not or cannot get a vaccine are directly murdering people. The fact you even think like just shows how propagandized you are.

If you are SO concerned about viral spread and the over responsibility you think an individual should have, the fact that CA got rid of the law where you have to disclose your HIV should infuriate you.

It wont though, because you are a statist authoritarian who is confused about what liberalism is who is all to happy to deep throat that GovCo boot and shill away for fascism and pharma profits.

Grow the fuck up, take responsibility for YOURSELF and accept the fact that you cannot control other people, and America is a liberal country of individual RIGHTS and liberties. We know how little you value "freedumb".

So fucking ironic you had the audacity to claim Trump was a "wanna be dictator" but couldnt come up with a single example. And here you are... arguing for medical tyranny. For people to be forced and coerced by GovCo to have certain medical interventions. Awesome precedent too. I'm sure that boundary would get pushed and pushed until Americans are getting placed in Covid camps and you are cheering it.

You are a hyper partisan tyrant who has NO business or right to harrass other Americans about their private medical decisions. You are very much part of the authoritarian movement in this country.

 

[Holliday1881]

Liberalism does not mean everyone can do as they please.
They have responsibility to fellow citizens.

Remember all, that the partial responsibility of government is to safeguard the rights of the.citizen,
. and among those rights be:
The Right to Life. No one shall violate that right w/o suffering penalty of law.

Now the law should not be needed to require this. A responsible citizen should act in accordance with the philosophy of Liberalism.
..but for those conservatives too selfish to consider their fellows rights equal to their own,
we have the legal system.

The legal system is required because there are people who have no regard for their fellow citizens.. aka conservatives. Therefore - Law.

 

[Dove]

Liberalism does not mean everyone can do as they please.
They have responsibility to fellow citizens.

Remember all, that the partial responsibility of government is to safeguard the rights of the.citizen,
. and among those rights be:
The Right to Life. No one shall violate that right w/o suffering penalty of law.

Now the law should not be needed to require this. A responsible citizen should act in accordance with the philosophy of Liberalism.
..but for those conservatives too selfish to consider there fellows equal to themselves,
we have the legal system.

Yes. They are there to safeguard our INDIVIDUAL constitutional rights and liberties.

Which means they should never FORCE medical interventions. Pretty sure that's even against the Nuremberg code.

You are talking like a nazi.

The incredible part is that you dont see how this same logic can be extended to literally everything and used to strip individual rights.

Let me see you get right on abortion, because the right to life doesnt mean fuck all to you until YOU decide you want people to get a pharmaceutical that your side of politcs is financially benefitting from along with pharma.

And again, H.....the covid vaccines ONLY benefit is to the individual getting it. It DOESNT prevent transmission or spread. So even your convoluted collectivism argument about how our bodies are public property doesnt work.

You are NOT a doctor, you are NOT educated in virology or vaccinations. You do NOT grasp all the very valid reasons people have for NOT getting it. You are only pushing this because you see it as a partisan cause.....which is even WORSE.

Knock it off. You fucking statist. Accept you are not an American authentic liberal. You are an establishment shill arguing for GovCo control over our MEDICAL DECISIONS.

One day in our lifetime, covid will be a nasty head cold. And GovCo will be enforcing our medical decisions and care. How many human rights violations do you suppose that will bring? Or are you dumb enough to think government and corps will do right by us all and never lie and never hurt anyone?

I think you people are insane.

 

[Holliday1881]

The legal system is required because there are people who have no regard for their fellow citizens.. aka conservatives. Therefore - Law.

...and Godwin's Law.

See you all in St Louis

 

[Dove]

H, you are completely delusional and dumb enough to be a danger to the country.

You dont even know what conservatives OR liberals are. You cannot be a collectivist and a liberal.

And saying laws exist because conservatives have no regard is just fucking stupid. You are brainwashed. You are an authoritarian shit bag.

You have no regard for your fellow citizens whatsoever considering you want the government to coerce or force them to take a pharmaceutical they dont want or cant have. You are a danger to the individual rights and human rights of your fellow citizens.

You wont like living in the gulags you want to help build. Is Pfizer paying you? Or are you just shilling for free?

 

[Holliday1881]

^^^^^ Cut and Paste TrollFarm Meathead ALERT! ^^^^^

 

[Dove]

I'm sure this guy is just a dumb evil cOnTaRd.

Because it's totally normal for you establishment lefties to have so much hatred towards your own countrymen based on lies you want to believe.

I genuinely think too many of you are so brainwashed to fight for fascism and hate your opposition that you'll never think normal.

Did nazis ever recover? Did communist revolution survivors who were brainwashed to fight for communism ever recover? It's like propaganda breaks peoples brains.

Everyone who sees what's happening you drooling statist tards just label "teh right". Gonna be A LOT of "righties".

You guys dgaf about what's really happening. You are hopelessly locked in an intentional propaganda campaign to divide and destabilize the country. Your hatred and "contempt" for everyone you call a con was manufactured for you. You are SUPPOSED to. You are loss fucking cause.

Look at you....gaslighting people about why you think the government should force medical interventions on the people and saying if we dont agree with that we "have no regard" for others....and the facts do not even support that. You are just a hateful authoritarian who would shill for ANYTHING the establishment tells you to.

You've argued for an innocent kid to go to prison for self defense. That's fucking EVIL. You make a joke out of riots that have killed people and destroyed lives.

You dont give a shit about your fellow citizens. You are trying to compete and manipulate. Because you are a useful idiot with a propaganda rotted brain.

 

[Dove]

^^^^^ Cut and Paste TrollFarm Meathead ALERT! ^^^^^

Yes everyone knows you cannot manage any discussions and retreat back into your comfort zone.

See what I mean? You are a DANGER to the human rights of your fellow citizens. You'll shill for any infringement on the rights of citizens if your masters tell you too.

Useful idiot.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

:facepalm:

 

[Dove]

:facepalm:

He left his photobucket open

 

[Dove]

The saddest part is....its true.

 

[Lokmar]

...do you stop at traffic control devices when you are driving, of just barrel ahead screaming FREEEEDUMB!.
.No one is going to tell me what I can do with my body. Autonomy!
I mean who the hell are these authoritarians telling people how to protect themselves,
or for that matter what we can eject into our environment, or that we have to be educated formally, or vaccinated against deadly disease.

Fuck convention and law. If you're a true Liberal you just do as you please, let everyone else take care of themselves.

...Right?

Cool story, nigger faggit!