Will the Democrats soon be locked out of power?

[Joe]

...if so, what were their biggest mistakes?

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....and is there still enough time to correct at least some of them?

What have they gotten right or done well in?

Or are they 'done like dinner' come November?

 

[Dove]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

 

[Oerdin]

For the good of our country we can only hope.

 

[Joe]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

 

[Dove]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

 

[Joe]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

 

[Dove]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Democrats dont serve the people they serve Globohomo and Globohomo backs them and smears its enemies.

Problem(for Globohomo) is people are waking up to this, untrammelled corperate power/corruption, mass immigration to game the electoral system craven political corruption. Kowtowing to Supranational and unaccountable bodies like WEF, UN, EU etc.

 

[Dove]

 

[Joe]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President too. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

 

[Lokmar]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

WRONG! Trump would have handled it much much different and if the ragheads would have killed our guys while Trump was President, He'd have butchered the taliban and stayed longer!

 

[Dove]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

They'll find a way to cheat this coming nov

watch

 

[Dove]

They'll find a way to cheat this coming nov

watch

Even democrat voters in MI are suspicious of our state elections.

 

[Oerdin]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

The amount of the military heardware Biden abandoned was closer to $80 billion.

 

[Dove]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

The amount of the military heardware Biden abandoned was closer to $80 billion.

My bad :(

 

[Joe]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

 

[Dove]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

Biden did it very fast and did it against the advice of his military intelligence people.

It would have been better to stay another year and exit more orderly. And those people didnt CHOSE to stay, Joe. They didnt even know. So yes he straight up ditched people there. They didnt have the ability to get to the airport fast enough. He could have had those people brought to the airport.

Trump was planning the exit. Biden should have followed whatever plan the previous administration had. Maybe tweaked it as nessesary.

He didnt even get our equipment and weapons out of there. That's incredibley stupid and bad for America.

I mean sure perhaps any exit would have been messy. But he could have worked out a better plan than what he did.

Ann Coulter slithered out of whatever hole she had been hibernating in to do an interview a few months ago and I never wanted to punch her more than when she said "well Biden got us out of Afganistan, Trump didnt do that". Shes unrealistic and a cunt.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

The amount of the military heardware Biden abandoned was closer to $80 billion.

86 billion actually

 

[Dove]

Gotdamn.

I mean yeah.....it was completely fucked up.

 

[Joe]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

Biden did it very fast and did it against the advice of his military intelligence people.

It would have been better to stay another year and exit more orderly. And those people didnt CHOSE to stay, Joe. They didnt even know. So yes he straight up ditched people there. They didnt have the ability to get to the airport fast enough. He could have had those people brought to the airport.

Trump was planning the exit. Biden should have followed whatever plan the previous administration had. Maybe tweaked it as nessesary.

He didnt even get our equipment and weapons out of there. That's incredibley stupid and bad for America.

I mean sure perhaps any exit would have been messy. But he could have worked out a better plan than what he did.

Ann Coulter slithered out of whatever hole she had been hibernating in to do an interview a few months ago and I never wanted to punch her more than when she said "well Biden got us out of Afganistan, Trump didnt do that". Shes unrealistic and a cunt.

But Trump would have had to stay longer than he had initially promised to achieve a more successful pullout.

And your US state department warned many 'American' stragglers at least 6 months prior of the impending pullout but many would not leave. And they would have done the same thing if Trump had been in office too.

Not everything was Biden's fault.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

Biden did it very fast and did it against the advice of his military intelligence people.

It would have been better to stay another year and exit more orderly. And those people didnt CHOSE to stay, Joe. They didnt even know. So yes he straight up ditched people there. They didnt have the ability to get to the airport fast enough. He could have had those people brought to the airport.

Trump was planning the exit. Biden should have followed whatever plan the previous administration had. Maybe tweaked it as nessesary.

He didnt even get our equipment and weapons out of there. That's incredibley stupid and bad for America.

I mean sure perhaps any exit would have been messy. But he could have worked out a better plan than what he did.

Ann Coulter slithered out of whatever hole she had been hibernating in to do an interview a few months ago and I never wanted to punch her more than when she said "well Biden got us out of Afganistan, Trump didnt do that". Shes unrealistic and a cunt.

But Trump would have had to stay longer than he had initially promised to achieve a more successful pullout.

And your US state department warned many 'American' stragglers at least 6 months prior of the impending pullout but many would not leave. And they would have done the same thing if Trump had been in office too.

Not everything was Biden's fault.

And trump would have broken his “”promise”” to a bunxh of goat fuckimg backwards towel heads and told them to like it too

And they would have cause they knew he didn’t fuck around. Unlike this geriatric moron you dupes support

 

[Dove]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

Biden did it very fast and did it against the advice of his military intelligence people.

It would have been better to stay another year and exit more orderly. And those people didnt CHOSE to stay, Joe. They didnt even know. So yes he straight up ditched people there. They didnt have the ability to get to the airport fast enough. He could have had those people brought to the airport.

Trump was planning the exit. Biden should have followed whatever plan the previous administration had. Maybe tweaked it as nessesary.

He didnt even get our equipment and weapons out of there. That's incredibley stupid and bad for America.

I mean sure perhaps any exit would have been messy. But he could have worked out a better plan than what he did.

Ann Coulter slithered out of whatever hole she had been hibernating in to do an interview a few months ago and I never wanted to punch her more than when she said "well Biden got us out of Afganistan, Trump didnt do that". Shes unrealistic and a cunt.

But Trump would have had to stay longer than he had initially promised to achieve a more successful pullout.

And your US state department warned many 'American' stragglers at least 6 months prior of the impending pullout but many would not leave. And they would have done the same thing if Trump had been in office too.

Not everything was Biden's fault.

And that would have been better to take the time to exit properly. Or at least less messy than the shit show that exit was. Leaving the equipment and weapons was vile. You are supposed to take all that BEFORE you officially exit.

And no they didnt, Joe.....they didnt even KNOW 6 months prior. And Biden was even told doing it the way he did it was going to be a bad idea.

Biden is responsible for what his duties are as president. He is the commander in cheif of our military. They got the orders for this exit from him. He went against a plan that had already been worked on, went against advice, and ripped us out like pulling off a band aid with out doing a single thing properly. Left 86 billion in equipment and weapons.

Not everything is Bidens fault, no. But THIS is. As the commander in cheif our military is directly his responsibility. This is his job directly. To command the US military. Not everything is his fault. He IS responsible for how he performs his duties though.

The priority should have been getting the exit done properly with as less damage as possible. Not hurrying up to keep some promise or rushing it JUST to be able to claim one for team blue. It matters how it's done. He lost a lot of support from people in the military and their families because of this.....many people are not even close to over it.

 

[Joe]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

Biden did it very fast and did it against the advice of his military intelligence people.

It would have been better to stay another year and exit more orderly. And those people didnt CHOSE to stay, Joe. They didnt even know. So yes he straight up ditched people there. They didnt have the ability to get to the airport fast enough. He could have had those people brought to the airport.

Trump was planning the exit. Biden should have followed whatever plan the previous administration had. Maybe tweaked it as nessesary.

He didnt even get our equipment and weapons out of there. That's incredibley stupid and bad for America.

I mean sure perhaps any exit would have been messy. But he could have worked out a better plan than what he did.

Ann Coulter slithered out of whatever hole she had been hibernating in to do an interview a few months ago and I never wanted to punch her more than when she said "well Biden got us out of Afganistan, Trump didnt do that". Shes unrealistic and a cunt.

But Trump would have had to stay longer than he had initially promised to achieve a more successful pullout.

And your US state department warned many 'American' stragglers at least 6 months prior of the impending pullout but many would not leave. And they would have done the same thing if Trump had been in office too.

Not everything was Biden's fault.

And trump would have broken his “”promise”” to a bunxh of goat fuckimg backwards towel heads and told them to like it too

And they would have cause they knew he didn’t fuck around. Unlike this geriatric moron you dupes support

Bottom line...Trump would have had to stay longer to achieve a more successful pullout. But it would never have been entirely smooth no matter who dunnit.

 

[Dove]

Inflation isnt really Bidens fault. That's more congress. The democrats drove that sure. And then Bidens inflationary bills.

There is a lot more that goes into that than just "Biden did it". Its fun to shit on him though....but we understand the complexities and it IS on the democrats. They pushed the lockdowns and printed off all that money.

The military though? That IS directly Bidens responsibility. Shit that's part of what makes him being the president scary. He controls our military.

 

[Dove]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

Biden did it very fast and did it against the advice of his military intelligence people.

It would have been better to stay another year and exit more orderly. And those people didnt CHOSE to stay, Joe. They didnt even know. So yes he straight up ditched people there. They didnt have the ability to get to the airport fast enough. He could have had those people brought to the airport.

Trump was planning the exit. Biden should have followed whatever plan the previous administration had. Maybe tweaked it as nessesary.

He didnt even get our equipment and weapons out of there. That's incredibley stupid and bad for America.

I mean sure perhaps any exit would have been messy. But he could have worked out a better plan than what he did.

Ann Coulter slithered out of whatever hole she had been hibernating in to do an interview a few months ago and I never wanted to punch her more than when she said "well Biden got us out of Afganistan, Trump didnt do that". Shes unrealistic and a cunt.

But Trump would have had to stay longer than he had initially promised to achieve a more successful pullout.

And your US state department warned many 'American' stragglers at least 6 months prior of the impending pullout but many would not leave. And they would have done the same thing if Trump had been in office too.

Not everything was Biden's fault.

And trump would have broken his “”promise”” to a bunxh of goat fuckimg backwards towel heads and told them to like it too

And they would have cause they knew he didn’t fuck around. Unlike this geriatric moron you dupes support

Bottom line...Trump would have had to stay longer to achieve a more successful pullout. But it would never have been entirely smooth no matter who dunnit.

And that would have been much better than what ended up happening.

 

[Joe]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

WRONG! Trump would have handled it much much different and if the ragheads would have killed our guys while Trump was President, He'd have butchered the taliban and stayed longer!

And that's what military warhawks wanted. That America stay longer. In fact forever until your nations coffers were bled dry.

Yknow since China has started to make its presence felt in the region, now the Taliban is attacking & beheading their people @Lokmar.

So it doesn't matter who goes in there. That place is ungovernable. If the next colonizer wants to be more successful than the USA was they basically have to go in there with an iron fist and drop atom bombs on the place to make it a radioactive dust heap. That's the only way for China to make Afghanistan 'governable' Lokmeer.

 

[Lokmar]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

Biden did it very fast and did it against the advice of his military intelligence people.

It would have been better to stay another year and exit more orderly. And those people didnt CHOSE to stay, Joe. They didnt even know. So yes he straight up ditched people there. They didnt have the ability to get to the airport fast enough. He could have had those people brought to the airport.

Trump was planning the exit. Biden should have followed whatever plan the previous administration had. Maybe tweaked it as nessesary.

He didnt even get our equipment and weapons out of there. That's incredibley stupid and bad for America.

I mean sure perhaps any exit would have been messy. But he could have worked out a better plan than what he did.

Ann Coulter slithered out of whatever hole she had been hibernating in to do an interview a few months ago and I never wanted to punch her more than when she said "well Biden got us out of Afganistan, Trump didnt do that". Shes unrealistic and a cunt.

But Trump would have had to stay longer than he had initially promised to achieve a more successful pullout.

And your US state department warned many 'American' stragglers at least 6 months prior of the impending pullout but many would not leave. And they would have done the same thing if Trump had been in office too.

Not everything was Biden's fault.

I bet those 13 dead servicemen woulda been ok with that if it were true ITFP.

 

[Lokmar]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

I dont agree at all. There was a way to do that without the mess and without leaving 8 billion worth of weapons and equipment, Joe.

They brought Afgan refugees. Why would we bring more when we spent money for over a decade trying to assimilate them to a democracy to no avail?

In which case the US would have had to extend their stay in Afghanistan to get everyone & everything out possible. Maybe by another year?

I don't blame Biden for the stragglers who intentionally stayed beyond the recommended time line & then begged the USA to airlift them out. That wasnt his fault. A lot of those so called Americans were naturalized citizens originally from Afghanistan.

Biden did it very fast and did it against the advice of his military intelligence people.

It would have been better to stay another year and exit more orderly. And those people didnt CHOSE to stay, Joe. They didnt even know. So yes he straight up ditched people there. They didnt have the ability to get to the airport fast enough. He could have had those people brought to the airport.

Trump was planning the exit. Biden should have followed whatever plan the previous administration had. Maybe tweaked it as nessesary.

He didnt even get our equipment and weapons out of there. That's incredibley stupid and bad for America.

I mean sure perhaps any exit would have been messy. But he could have worked out a better plan than what he did.

Ann Coulter slithered out of whatever hole she had been hibernating in to do an interview a few months ago and I never wanted to punch her more than when she said "well Biden got us out of Afganistan, Trump didnt do that". Shes unrealistic and a cunt.

But Trump would have had to stay longer than he had initially promised to achieve a more successful pullout.

And your US state department warned many 'American' stragglers at least 6 months prior of the impending pullout but many would not leave. And they would have done the same thing if Trump had been in office too.

Not everything was Biden's fault.

And trump would have broken his “”promise”” to a bunxh of goat fuckimg backwards towel heads and told them to like it too

And they would have cause they knew he didn’t fuck around. Unlike this geriatric moron you dupes support

Bottom line...Trump would have had to stay longer to achieve a more successful pullout. But it would never have been entirely smooth no matter who dunnit.

It would have been entirely smoother than biden. FACT!

 

[Lokmar]

Hopefully.

I mean we have talked about their big mistakes. I dont know if people like that can do any better.

I guess from their standpoint, the Democrats had better get as much done from now until November because if they lose Congress they're pretty much lame duck after that.

Seems they pissed off a lot of Americans.

I thought their biggest mistake was taking their Eye offa the Ball & neglecting the importance of Oil to the American economy.

They had no transition plan & someone like Joe Manchin had warned them from the outset.

Regardless who was in power, the US was already transitioning to alternative Energy.
Even under Trump many solar projects and wind farms were being built.

What do they call the Bernie Bots or the Prog wing of the Democratic Party?

'Liberals in a hurry'?

Totally lacking in common sense.

They didnt make any promises though. They used distorted truths, lies and partisan hate to win.

Now we see that was all they had. I mean their only platform is "fuck Republicans".

They are complete psychos and the people still supporting them are psycho. They are out of wack authoritarians.

Well, since I'm not aligned with either Party, from an objective standpoint I just thought their tactical mistake was trying to ditch Oil from the American Economy way too soon.

that was like throwing out the Baby with the Bathwater.

They let the AOC's rather than Centrists like Joe Manchin run their Energy policy.

It's not really people are "aligned" with a party. Parties are supposed to align with the people.....not the other way around. Democrats did that in reverse and want the people to align with them. So they ruthlessly attack opposition rather than building a platform that benefits the people.

I'm hoping it's obvious they are not for the people. And not all Republicans are either. Trumps big appeal was that he spoke what all of us were already thinking. Had he ran Democrat he would have still won. It's not about labels.

When dems try to do what the people want.....we end up with that nightmare Afganistan exist which I'm SURE pissed off a lot of people.

No matter which Party was in power, the exit from Afghanistan would have been messy. Perhaps the incident where 13 American soldiers died outside the Kabul airport could have been prevented. Otherwise it still would have been chaos if Trump had been President. military pullouts are rarely orderly and smooth in war zones.

Aghanistsan is still a mess. Little wonder the US & it's allies are willing to roll out the red carpet for the Ukrainians but they don't want Afghan refugees.

WRONG! Trump would have handled it much much different and if the ragheads would have killed our guys while Trump was President, He'd have butchered the taliban and stayed longer!

And that's what military warhawks wanted. That America stay longer. In fact forever until your nations coffers were bled dry.

Yknow since China has started to make its presence felt in the region, now the Taliban is attacking & beheading their people @Lokmar.

So it doesn't matter who goes in there. That place is ungovernable. If the next colonizer wants to be more successful than the USA was they basically have to go in there with an iron fist and drop atom bombs on the place to make it a radioactive dust heap. That's the only way for China to make Afghanistan 'governable' Lokmeer.

I could govern it. I'd declare islam a capital crime and blown up every mosque in the country. Then I'd put every islamic cunt to the sword. Christianity would be the only acceptable form of worship. I'd executed self proclaimed atheists too. Problem solved.