Does Trump ever NOT lie about shit? This one's a whopper!

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at the White House that “it’s the most popular bill ever signed in the history of our country,” adding for emphasis that “this is the single most popular bill ever signed.”

That is an up-is-down reversal of reality.

The bill is
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. While polls can be off, this bill wouldn’t be popular – let alone the most popular US bill ever signed – even with a massive and widespread polling error.

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That bill is sick. 40k people in VT are losing their health insurance.
 

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Eh? Popular based on what? He has 60% support for the border wall etc so how can that all dip for the bill to fund it?


The numbers on your bullshit don't add up.
 

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I skimmed your article, Jack. It just fear porn with no hard facts. Apparently, you have a lot of freeloader welfare cases up there in Vermont getting a free ride from the rest of the taxpayers, and hospitals and "providers" are worried because a significant portion of their revenues are from milking Medicare/Medicaid so the "provider" executives can have their 6 and 7 figure cushy salaries.

No moar free rides.
 

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I skimmed your article, Jack. It just fear porn with no hard facts. Apparently, you have a lot of freeloader welfare cases up there in Vermont getting a free ride from the rest of the taxpayers, and hospitals and "providers" are worried because a significant portion of their revenues are from milking Medicare/Medicaid so the "provider" executives can have their 6 and 7 figure cushy salaries.

No moar free rides.
Vermont's rural poor are real, not freeloaders you right wing knee jerk fascist.
 

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Vermont's rural poor are real, not freeloaders you right wing knee jerk fascist.
If they are able-bodied, then they need to either find a job or volunteer at least 80 hours a month. That's the provision in the Bill. No more sitting around in their rural Vermont trailers cooking up meth and getting free Medicaid that they are not paying into.

And, of course, ALL illegal alien criminals will be booted off the Medicaid roles that they never paid into.
 
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From the reference……..

Said a person with their hand in the cookie jar……
“said Mike Del Trecco, president and CEO of the state’s hospital association”

Ahhhhh ……..it’s about states getting more federal money …….

Meanwhile, the bill has sparked concern among hospital leaders in Vermont over a provision that would limit how much state governments can tax health care providers such as hospitals to, ultimately, access more federal Medicaid funding. Vermont, like most other states, relies on these taxes to fund expanded benefits for Medicaid recipients, which is a practice that helps support providers, too.

“One key provision in the bill would impose new requirements that certain people on Medicaid demonstrate that they are working in order to receive coverage. States will also be required to determine a participant’s eligibility for Medicaid every six months rather than every year, as they do now.”

The federal government should not be a sole provider…….but a supplement to make up for gaps that exist in the market for healthcare…….. the bedwetting Libtards want to make the public trough open to the lazy and selfish.

If they are unwilling to work……….at least they could spend the time to fill out some paperwork……

Again……..from the reference…….

“The fact that more people will have to fill out additional paperwork will lead some to fall off of coverage, according to Ashley Berliner, director of Medicaid policy for the state Agency of Human Services.”

“Berliner, in an interview, estimated that about 30,000 Vermonters will lose coverage because of that greater administrative burden. That makes up roughly half of the adults in Vermont who currently receive health insurance coverage under the expansion of Medicaid provided by the Affordable Care Act. That act, commonly called Obamacare, has significantly increased the number of people able to access health insurance”

Fuck them…….

“Meanwhile, she said, Vermont health officials believe an additional 15,000 people who purchase coverage on the commercial marketplace created by the Affordable Care Act will also lose coverage, at least in part because signing up for it will become more difficult. The budget bill doesn’t allow people to automatically reenroll in their current health care plan and shrinks the sign-up period for coverage by a month.”

Again……it is about grift by a blue state and embracing sloth.

“Berliner added that she’s concerned by a measure in the bill that would ban state Medicaid payments for at least one year to health care nonprofits that offer abortions. This would include, notably, Planned Parenthood, which has clinics throughout Vermont.”

Nothing…….and I mean nothing could make me happier……..

LOL……a Democrat discussing morals……
“This Republican budget is far and away the cruelest piece of legislation I’ve seen in my career,” she said in a statement Thursday afternoon. “It’s an utter moral failure.”
 
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Eh? Popular based on what? He has 60% support for the border wall etc so how can that all dip for the bill to fund it?


The numbers on your bullshit don't add up.
Throughout 2025, Trump’s disapproval rating on immigration has steadily risen — to 46% in April, then 48% in May — before jumping to 52% in June, amid the recent ICE raids. At the same time, the president’s approval rating on immigration has fallen to 44%.

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On Friday,
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at the White House that “it’s the most popular bill ever signed in the history of our country,” adding for emphasis that “this is the single most popular bill ever signed.”

That is an up-is-down reversal of reality.

The bill is
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. While polls can be off, this bill wouldn’t be popular – let alone the most popular US bill ever signed – even with a massive and widespread polling error.

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You're right.

The Bill of Rights was the most popular one.
 

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The hospitals… especially in rural areas.. depend on Medicare/Medicaid and big insurance to kick in to alleviate some of the deficit when people don’t have HI to stay in business.
Yes, massive Medicare/Medicaid fraud is a large portion of the revenue streams of Health Care Providers all across the country, especially in many rural areas.

That will end under the provisions of the Big Bill and help strengthen Medicare/Medicaid for those for whom it was designed.

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Yes, massive Medicare/Medicaid fraud is a large portion of the revenue streams of Health Care Providers all across the country, especially in many rural areas.

That will end under the provisions of the Big Bill and help strengthen Medicare/Medicaid for those for whom it was designed.

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the only way to solve this is to give everyone healthcare imho

Not force hospitals to shut down
 

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the only way to solve this is to give everyone healthcare imho

Not force hospitals to shut down
<Sigh> What's being solved is eliminating the massive fraud inherent in the system so the system works more efficiently and is there for those American citizens who have paid into the system.

If any hospital is shut down due to massive and fraudulent over billing then they go out of business.
 

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<Sigh> What's being solved is eliminating the massive fraud inherent in the system so the system works more efficiently and is there for those American citizens who have paid into the system.

If any hospital is shut down due to massive and fraudulent over billing then they go out of business.

do you know how hard it is to commit Medicare fraud?