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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
It's a Coming of Age Celebration, think of it like a Debutante Ball for one. They can be very elaborate affairs with lots of food and music and dancing etc
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
It's a Coming of Age Celebration, think of it like a Debutante Ball for one. They can be very elaborate affairs with lots of food and music and dancing etc
Ok thanks =)
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
It's a Coming of Age Celebration, think of it like a Debutante Ball for one. They can be very elaborate affairs with lots of food and music and dancing etc
Ok thanks =)
Stubby had one as I understand it, you might ask him about his.
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
It's a Coming of Age Celebration, think of it like a Debutante Ball for one. They can be very elaborate affairs with lots of food and music and dancing etc
Ok thanks =)
Stubby had one as I understand it, you might ask him about his.
WHY have you got to do that? We're in the middle of discussing threadjackers and here you are baiting a thread...
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
it sounds a bit like a sweet sixteen party

*but at 15
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
it sounds a bit like a sweet sixteen party

*but at 15
I wish I was that age again, out drinking and getting naughty... There were squads of us out drinking under the bridge or in the woods in summer... Haha all the girls were in one group, boys in another, then as the alcohol set in things started to happen lolol
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
it sounds a bit like a sweet sixteen party

*but at 15
I wish I was that age again, out drinking and getting naughty... There were squads of us out drinking under the bridge or in the woods in summer... Haha all the girls were in one group, boys in another, then as the alcohol set in things started to happen lolol
we would go 2 the woods with a big radio, cooler and make a bonfire then i would come home reaking of smoke lol
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
it sounds a bit like a sweet sixteen party

*but at 15
I wish I was that age again, out drinking and getting naughty... There were squads of us out drinking under the bridge or in the woods in summer... Haha all the girls were in one group, boys in another, then as the alcohol set in things started to happen lolol
we would go 2 the woods with a big radio, cooler and make a bonfire then i would come home reaking of smoke lol
haahaha! Yeah we had fires to!! Oh the memories, you truly don't appreciate things at that age man... Good times!
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.


Did you have one, Lily? My mom said I wasn’t Mexican enough to have one lol
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)

The entire word is "quinceanera" and it's when a girl symbolically transitions from girlhood to womanhood. Traditionally there is a Mass at Church followed by a reception where there is lots of food and dancing, some drinking depending on the family. The girl had 14 girls as attendants and no boys, modern times has included boys in the event. The dress is fairly formal. The highlight at the reception is when the girl dances her first waltz.

Over the years it has gotten a lot more about the party and less about the religious tradition.
 
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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.


Did you have one, Lily? My mom said I wasn’t Mexican enough to have one lol


Nope, I'm an introvert and the idea horrified me. My daughter was the same way. I offered her a quince, then a sweet 16...no interest. When she turned 18 I convinced her to have a party with her friends at home.

Our birthday, we share a bday, is in the winter so I told her to have a party that was super casual. Had the boys dig a hole in the dirt, taught them to chop wood (none of them knew how), and had a bonfire. She went to a performing arts high school so she had her bestie male friend play his guitar...the kids sang, ate pizza, chips, drank soft drinks...no booze. I supervised but mostly stayed inside while coming out periodically to make sure they weren't up to any trouble.

They eventually came in and were spread all over the house just having a good time. More singing and adolescent silliness, but no fights, no bs. As the kids left, I heard one say "That was the best party ever."

She was so grateful and it is her last and best memory of her bestie. He was tragically killed when he was hit by a train within a week from the party. She was devastated but much later was happy she'd had that last memory of him playing and singing...
 
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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)

Quince means 15 in Spanish. My boyfriend’s eldest female child is going to be turning 15 next year and (dad is Mexican and mom is Columbian) they celebrate this as a coming of age similar to what white people celebrate as a Sweet 16.

The word quince is short for Quinceañera. The girl turning 15 is the Quincañera.

I’m sure Lily or Flea can fill in any gaps for me… my daughter is 1/2 Mexican and didn’t want the quince or sweet 16 party…she took the cash and went to Europe, Cuba, and Thailand…. and I was ok with that.
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)

Quince means 15 in Spanish. My boyfriend’s eldest female child is going to be turning 15 next year and (dad is Mexican and mom is Columbian) they celebrate this as a coming of age similar to what white people celebrate as a Sweet 16.

The word quince is short for Quinceañera. The girl turning 15 is the Quincañera.

I’m sure Lily or Flea can fill in any gaps for me… my daughter is 1/2 Mexican and didn’t want the quince or sweet 16 party…she took the cash and went to Europe, Cuba, and Thailand…. and I was ok with that.

Much smarter to take a trip, some girls ask their parents to buy them a car instead.
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.


Did you have one, Lily? My mom said I wasn’t Mexican enough to have one lol


Nope, I'm an introvert and the idea horrified me. My daughter was the same way. I offered her a quince, then a sweet 16...no interest. When she turned 18 I convinced her to have a party with her friends at home.

Our birthday, we share a bday, is in the winter so I told her to have a party that was super casual. Had the boys dig a hole in the dirt, taught them to chop wood (none of them knew how), and had a bonfire. She went to a performing arts high school so she had her bestie male friend play his guitar...the kids sang, ate pizza, chips, drank soft drinks...no booze. I supervised but mostly stayed inside while coming out periodically to make sure they weren't up to any trouble.

They eventually came in and were spread all over the house just having a good time. More singing and adolescent silliness, but no fights, no bs. As the kids left, I heard one say "That was the best party ever."

She was so grateful and it is her last and best memory of her bestie. He was tragically killed when he was hit by a train within a week from the party. She was devastated but much later was happy she'd had that last memory of him playing and singing...


My mama said, you can barely speak Spanish. Your ass ain’t having no damn party that costs as much as a wedding :LOL3:
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.


Did you have one, Lily? My mom said I wasn’t Mexican enough to have one lol


Nope, I'm an introvert and the idea horrified me. My daughter was the same way. I offered her a quince, then a sweet 16...no interest. When she turned 18 I convinced her to have a party with her friends at home.

Our birthday, we share a bday, is in the winter so I told her to have a party that was super casual. Had the boys dig a hole in the dirt, taught them to chop wood (none of them knew how), and had a bonfire. She went to a performing arts high school so she had her bestie male friend play his guitar...the kids sang, ate pizza, chips, drank soft drinks...no booze. I supervised but mostly stayed inside while coming out periodically to make sure they weren't up to any trouble.

They eventually came in and were spread all over the house just having a good time. More singing and adolescent silliness, but no fights, no bs. As the kids left, I heard one say "That was the best party ever."

She was so grateful and it is her last and best memory of her bestie. He was tragically killed when he was hit by a train within a week from the party. She was devastated but much later was happy she'd had that last memory of him playing and singing...


My mama said, you can barely speak Spanish. Your ass ain’t having no damn party that costs as much as a wedding :LOL3:


Yeah, it's stupid amount of money. I kind of feel that I was culturally removed from it too. Too many generations here in the US. My aunt was the only relative that I knew had one and that was in the late 1950s.

My sister revived the tradition with her girls. I thought it was a lot of money to show off for people that you really don't give one fuck about...but I was the good "supportive" aunt and did my part.
 
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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.

I really have no issue with the pants… except she has never been exposed to trying these gorgeous dresses on. I just want to take her for a fun day of trying them on so she makes an informed decision is all.

I have tried these dresses on with my own daughter when she turned down both parties. We had a BLAST doing that.

The eldest will be doing the church ceremony. I prefer that she wear the princess dress for that ceremony and then change for the reception.
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.

I really have no issue with the pants… except she has never been exposed to trying these gorgeous dresses on. I just want to take her for a fun day of trying them on so she makes an informed decision is all.

I have tried these dresses on with my own daughter when she turned down both parties. We had a BLAST doing that.

The eldest will be doing the church ceremony. I prefer that she wear the princess dress for that ceremony and then change for the reception.

Doesn't her mother get to do these things with her?
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.


Did you have one, Lily? My mom said I wasn’t Mexican enough to have one lol


Nope, I'm an introvert and the idea horrified me. My daughter was the same way. I offered her a quince, then a sweet 16...no interest. When she turned 18 I convinced her to have a party with her friends at home.

Our birthday, we share a bday, is in the winter so I told her to have a party that was super casual. Had the boys dig a hole in the dirt, taught them to chop wood (none of them knew how), and had a bonfire. She went to a performing arts high school so she had her bestie male friend play his guitar...the kids sang, ate pizza, chips, drank soft drinks...no booze. I supervised but mostly stayed inside while coming out periodically to make sure they weren't up to any trouble.

They eventually came in and were spread all over the house just having a good time. More singing and adolescent silliness, but no fights, no bs. As the kids left, I heard one say "That was the best party ever."

She was so grateful and it is her last and best memory of her bestie. He was tragically killed when he was hit by a train within a week from the party. She was devastated but much later was happy she'd had that last memory of him playing and singing...


My mama said, you can barely speak Spanish. Your ass ain’t having no damn party that costs as much as a wedding :LOL3:


Yeah, it's stupid amount of money. I kind of feel that I was culturally removed from it too. Too many generations here in the US. My aunt was the only relative that I knew had one and that was in the late 1950s.

My sister revived the tradition with her girls. I thought it was a lot of money to show off for people that you really don't give one fuck about...but I was the good "supportive" aunt and did my part.


Yeah, I remember my grandma saying we ain’t them type of Mexicans. It would look stupid for one of us to have one.
 
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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.

I really have no issue with the pants… I’ll find her the fire tuxedo worthy of the queen we hope she will be… except she has never been exposed to trying these gorgeous dresses on. I just want to take her for a fun day of trying them on with no intention of her wearing one.

I have tried these dresses on with my own daughter when she turned down both race traditional parties and we had so much fun.

Is it wrong that I want her to find strength and feminity in power?
 
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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.


Did you have one, Lily? My mom said I wasn’t Mexican enough to have one lol


Nope, I'm an introvert and the idea horrified me. My daughter was the same way. I offered her a quince, then a sweet 16...no interest. When she turned 18 I convinced her to have a party with her friends at home.

Our birthday, we share a bday, is in the winter so I told her to have a party that was super casual. Had the boys dig a hole in the dirt, taught them to chop wood (none of them knew how), and had a bonfire. She went to a performing arts high school so she had her bestie male friend play his guitar...the kids sang, ate pizza, chips, drank soft drinks...no booze. I supervised but mostly stayed inside while coming out periodically to make sure they weren't up to any trouble.

They eventually came in and were spread all over the house just having a good time. More singing and adolescent silliness, but no fights, no bs. As the kids left, I heard one say "That was the best party ever."

She was so grateful and it is her last and best memory of her bestie. He was tragically killed when he was hit by a train within a week from the party. She was devastated but much later was happy she'd had that last memory of him playing and singing...


My mama said, you can barely speak Spanish. Your ass ain’t having no damn party that costs as much as a wedding :LOL3:


Yeah, it's stupid amount of money. I kind of feel that I was culturally removed from it too. Too many generations here in the US. My aunt was the only relative that I knew had one and that was in the late 1950s.

My sister revived the tradition with her girls. I thought it was a lot of money to show off for people that you really don't give one fuck about...but I was the good "supportive" aunt and did my part.


Yeah, I remember my grandma saying we ain’t them type of Mexicans. It would look stupid for one of us to have one.

the worst part of this is that I can feel your family endured horrific racism and that is why you can’t speak Spanish fluently

I also find it beautiful because your mother and grandmother didn’t resonate with this being necessary for YOUR journey

You married pocho? ¿Que No?
 
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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
it sounds a bit like a sweet sixteen party

*but at 15

…. curious and zero judgement for an honest response… but this milestone resonated with you enough to respond to my thread and I’m just curious…

What was going on with your family and friends when this milestone transpired for you?
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.


Did you have one, Lily? My mom said I wasn’t Mexican enough to have one lol


Nope, I'm an introvert and the idea horrified me. My daughter was the same way. I offered her a quince, then a sweet 16...no interest. When she turned 18 I convinced her to have a party with her friends at home.

Our birthday, we share a bday, is in the winter so I told her to have a party that was super casual. Had the boys dig a hole in the dirt, taught them to chop wood (none of them knew how), and had a bonfire. She went to a performing arts high school so she had her bestie male friend play his guitar...the kids sang, ate pizza, chips, drank soft drinks...no booze. I supervised but mostly stayed inside while coming out periodically to make sure they weren't up to any trouble.

They eventually came in and were spread all over the house just having a good time. More singing and adolescent silliness, but no fights, no bs. As the kids left, I heard one say "That was the best party ever."

She was so grateful and it is her last and best memory of her bestie. He was tragically killed when he was hit by a train within a week from the party. She was devastated but much later was happy she'd had that last memory of him playing and singing...


My mama said, you can barely speak Spanish. Your ass ain’t having no damn party that costs as much as a wedding :LOL3:


Yeah, it's stupid amount of money. I kind of feel that I was culturally removed from it too. Too many generations here in the US. My aunt was the only relative that I knew had one and that was in the late 1950s.

My sister revived the tradition with her girls. I thought it was a lot of money to show off for people that you really don't give one fuck about...but I was the good "supportive" aunt and did my part.


Yeah, I remember my grandma saying we ain’t them type of Mexicans. It would look stupid for one of us to have one.

the worst part of this is that I can feel your family endured horrific racism and that is why you can’t speak Spanish fluently

I also find it beautiful because your mother and grandmother didn’t resonate with this being necessary for YOUR journey

You married pocho? ¿Que No?


I can’t speak Spanish cuz it wasn’t my moms first language. I learned what I can speak from school. Honestly, the only racism I’ve experienced is from the paisa’s because I don’t speak Spanish a 100 mph. I understand it 100 percent tho lol
 

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@Lily

I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?

I wouldn't force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. It's her quince. It's hers to enjoy and for everyone else to spoil if they make it about their wishes.


Did you have one, Lily? My mom said I wasn’t Mexican enough to have one lol


Nope, I'm an introvert and the idea horrified me. My daughter was the same way. I offered her a quince, then a sweet 16...no interest. When she turned 18 I convinced her to have a party with her friends at home.

Our birthday, we share a bday, is in the winter so I told her to have a party that was super casual. Had the boys dig a hole in the dirt, taught them to chop wood (none of them knew how), and had a bonfire. She went to a performing arts high school so she had her bestie male friend play his guitar...the kids sang, ate pizza, chips, drank soft drinks...no booze. I supervised but mostly stayed inside while coming out periodically to make sure they weren't up to any trouble.

They eventually came in and were spread all over the house just having a good time. More singing and adolescent silliness, but no fights, no bs. As the kids left, I heard one say "That was the best party ever."

She was so grateful and it is her last and best memory of her bestie. He was tragically killed when he was hit by a train within a week from the party. She was devastated but much later was happy she'd had that last memory of him playing and singing...


My mama said, you can barely speak Spanish. Your ass ain’t having no damn party that costs as much as a wedding :LOL3:


Yeah, it's stupid amount of money. I kind of feel that I was culturally removed from it too. Too many generations here in the US. My aunt was the only relative that I knew had one and that was in the late 1950s.

My sister revived the tradition with her girls. I thought it was a lot of money to show off for people that you really don't give one fuck about...but I was the good "supportive" aunt and did my part.


Yeah, I remember my grandma saying we ain’t them type of Mexicans. It would look stupid for one of us to have one.

the worst part of this is that I can feel your family endured horrific racism and that is why you can’t speak Spanish fluently

I also find it beautiful because your mother and grandmother didn’t resonate with this being necessary for YOUR journey

You married pocho? ¿Que No?


I can’t speak Spanish cuz it wasn’t my moms first language. I learned what I can speak from school. Honestly, the only racism I’ve experienced is from the paisa’s because I don’t speak Spanish a 100 mph. I understand it 100 percent tho lol
Do you "look" Spanish?
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
It's a Coming of Age Celebration, think of it like a Debutante Ball for one. They can be very elaborate affairs with lots of food and music and dancing etc
Ok thanks =)
Stubby had one as I understand it, you might ask him about his.
WHY have you got to do that? We're in the middle of discussing threadjackers and here you are baiting a thread...
I was misinformed.
 

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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
It's a Coming of Age Celebration, think of it like a Debutante Ball for one. They can be very elaborate affairs with lots of food and music and dancing etc
Ok thanks =)
Stubby had one as I understand it, you might ask him about his.
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I need advice. The eldest is approaching her quince. She wants to wear pants. Dad doesn’t want her to date until he is dead.

Is it wrong that I want her to do the dress and tiara?
Can I ask what "approaching her quince" means? Google is not my friend in this instance =)
It's a Coming of Age Celebration, think of it like a Debutante Ball for one. They can be very elaborate affairs with lots of food and music and dancing etc
Ok thanks =)
Stubby had one as I understand it, you might ask him about his.
WHY have you got to do that?
Because he's a homosexual with no self control

that, and I completely own the fairy little gas bag