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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oerdin" data-source="post: 394229" data-attributes="member: 128">We both know they are but also that the policies are ineffective in solving the supposed problems they seek to address.  For instance the Delta Smelt.  They've let the water flow out to the ocean for 20 years now yet the smelt haven't been found in the wild in five years.  Why?  Simple, all the introduced preditors have eaten them all.  Bass, catfish, striped bass, carp...  All the invasive species which were native all are happy to eat a 1"to 2" long minnow.  The problem was never insufficient water flow.  The problem was always non-native preditors.The Delta Smelt was always just an excuse, a vehicle, for the radical fringe leftists to get what they really wanted.</blockquote>