Have we gotten World War II wrong?

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...at least as it's been told to us by Historians in America and Britain?

The standard line has been that the Germans started World War II and unleashed hell because they were trying to conquer the entire World.

But is the picture a lot more complex than that?
Are the Historians missing something?

Scant attention is paid in the West to Germany AND then USSR's invasion of Poland in which the 2 major powers invaded it from the West and East, then subsequently partitioned the country up for themselves.




While the UK and France declared War on Germany, they didn't on the USSR.

Furthermore, the Soviet expansion Westward didn't stop with the annexation of Poland.
They also gobbled up independent nations such as Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania in 1940

And the USSR conquest continued with Finland as well where between 1939-40 they were met with stiff resistance by the Finns, who stymied the Russians and prevented them from swallowing up Finland as they had done with the other nations.




The Finnish resistance was not unlike that of Ukraine against Russia today. Perhaps the only reason the USSR halted its expansion was its failed war in Finland. Otherwise if they had been successful, they might have kept on going.

So perhaps it was just a fluke that Germany became known as the Resident Bad Guy, because they jumped the gun first in their mass invasion of Europe. But just like Germany, the USSR had imperial ambitions as well. And if the USSR had succeeded in overrunning Finland, they might today be known as the ones who started World War II. But by a stroke of luck and timing which favored them, they managed to become allied with 'the good guys'. Also, many countries in Eastern Europe then as in the 21st century were afraid of the presence of the USSR on their borders and greatly feared their expansive plans. While France, England and other Western European nations were aligned against Germany, the Eastern ones were aligned with it against Russia such as Bulgaria and Romania.

Ironic that Germany gets all the blame for starting World War II when the USSR might have been just as or more responsible for it as well. In addition, their expansionist tendencies today are just another legacy of their brutal and imperial past.
 
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I always said we should have pushed Russia back to its borders after the war but we made a pact with uncle joe and the dems/country wasnt keen on extending the war.
 

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I always said we should have pushed Russia back to its borders after the war but we made a pact with uncle joe and the dems/country wasnt keen on extending the war.

I have no idea what you mean...
 

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I always said we should have pushed Russia back to its borders after the war but we made a pact with uncle joe and the dems/country wasnt keen on extending the war.

I have no idea what you mean...
The USSR was a german ally early on and Stalin was a well known tyrrant. The only reason we made a pack with them was to fight the Germans. A big PR campaign was launched to rehabilitate Stalin in the eyes of the people to make the alliance palatable. It shouldnt have been a surprise to anyone that the cold war went the way it did. We allowed Russia a full seat at the table. What we should have done was told Stalin that we'd supply them with weapons but they could go fuck themselves after hitlers defeat or face invasion just like the germans. The entirety of the cold war and its misery on eastern europe was created by allowing the USSR a seat at the table after WW2.
 

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...at least as it's been told to us by Historians in America and Britain?

The standard line has been that the Germans started World War II and unleashed hell because they were trying to conquer the entire World.

But is the picture a lot more complex than that?
Are the Historians missing something?

Scant attention is paid in the West to Germany AND then USSR's invasion of Poland in which the 2 major powers invaded it from the West and East, then subsequently partitioned the country up for themselves.




While the UK and France declared War on Germany, they didn't on the USSR.

Furthermore, the Soviet expansion Westward didn't stop with the annexation of Poland.
They also gobbled up independent nations such as Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania in 1940

And the USSR conquest continued with Finland as well where between 1939-40 they were met with stiff resistance by the Finns, who stymied the Russians and prevented them from swallowing up Finland as they had done with the other nations.




The Finnish resistance was not unlike that of Ukraine against Russia today. Perhaps the only reason the USSR halted its expansion was its failed war in Finland. Otherwise if they had been successful, they might have kept on going.

So perhaps it was just a fluke that Germany became known as the Resident Bad Guy, because they jumped the gun first in their mass invasion of Europe. But just like Germany, the USSR had imperial ambitions as well. And if the USSR had succeeded in overrunning Finland, they might today be known as the ones who started World War II. But by a stroke of luck and timing which favored them, they managed to become allied with 'the good guys'. Also, many countries in Eastern Europe then as in the 21st century were afraid of the presence of the USSR on their borders and greatly feared their expansive plans. While France, England and other Western European nations were aligned against Germany, the Eastern ones were aligned with it against Russia such as Bulgaria and Romania.

Ironic that Germany gets all the blame for starting World War II when the USSR might have been just as or more responsible for it as well. In addition, their expansionist tendencies today are just another legacy of their brutal and imperial past.


So ... you were not aware of these historical facts before you found some Youtube Videos, Joe?

You know, ignorance and stupidity are different things, but they are kind of entwined. I've often said that the experience of driving on the expressway at rush hour is firm proof that 9 out of 10 humans are complete stupid motherfuckers because they are surrounding me in steel vehicles careening down the highway at 80 miles an hour and they are all idiots.

In much the same way, internet message boards such as Bastard Factory here often convince me that 9 out of 10 humans are complete ignorant motherfuckers.

No offense intended, Joe. It's just surprising that you would post an OP about basic stuff that everyone should already know. But then, that ignorance and stupidity thing I opened with.
 
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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year history of conquest which cannot be undone with a Treaty.
 
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...at least as it's been told to us by Historians in America and Britain?

The standard line has been that the Germans started World War II and unleashed hell because they were trying to conquer the entire World.

But is the picture a lot more complex than that?
Are the Historians missing something?

Scant attention is paid in the West to Germany AND then USSR's invasion of Poland in which the 2 major powers invaded it from the West and East, then subsequently partitioned the country up for themselves.




While the UK and France declared War on Germany, they didn't on the USSR.

Furthermore, the Soviet expansion Westward didn't stop with the annexation of Poland.
They also gobbled up independent nations such as Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania in 1940

And the USSR conquest continued with Finland as well where between 1939-40 they were met with stiff resistance by the Finns, who stymied the Russians and prevented them from swallowing up Finland as they had done with the other nations.




The Finnish resistance was not unlike that of Ukraine against Russia today. Perhaps the only reason the USSR halted its expansion was its failed war in Finland. Otherwise if they had been successful, they might have kept on going.

So perhaps it was just a fluke that Germany became known as the Resident Bad Guy, because they jumped the gun first in their mass invasion of Europe. But just like Germany, the USSR had imperial ambitions as well. And if the USSR had succeeded in overrunning Finland, they might today be known as the ones who started World War II. But by a stroke of luck and timing which favored them, they managed to become allied with 'the good guys'. Also, many countries in Eastern Europe then as in the 21st century were afraid of the presence of the USSR on their borders and greatly feared their expansive plans. While France, England and other Western European nations were aligned against Germany, the Eastern ones were aligned with it against Russia such as Bulgaria and Romania.

Ironic that Germany gets all the blame for starting World War II when the USSR might have been just as or more responsible for it as well. In addition, their expansionist tendencies today are just another legacy of their brutal and imperial past.


So ... you were not aware of these historical facts before you found some Youtube Videos, Joe?

You know, ignorance and stupidity are different things, but they are kind of entwined. I've often said that the experience of driving on the expressway at rush hour is firm proof that 9 out of 10 humans are complete stupid motherfuckers because they are surrounding me in steel vehicles careening down the highway at 80 miles an hour and they are all idiots.

In much the same way, internet message boards such as Bastard Factory here often convince me that 9 out of 10 humans are complete ignorant motherfuckers.

No offense intended, Joe. It's just surprising that you would post an OP about basic stuff that everyone should already know. But then, that ignorance and stupidity thing I opened with.


But yet ReggiE, your national propoganda machine, Hollywood, has always blamed the Germans and portrayed them as being 100% responsible for World II.

But if the Germans are to blame, then the Russians should share the other 50%.

Notice there are no Hollywood films about the partition of Poland. If it's about that country, it's the evil Germans who were wholly responsible for invading and carving up Poland.
 

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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
 

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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol
 

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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol

I know, shocking eh? :Happy5:
 
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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol

I know, shocking eh? :Happy5:

I'm impressed with Mayor of Kiev Wassily Klitschko.




Whether or not you side with him or agree with his cause, you gotta admit he's really been quite the Man.

Heavyweight Boxing Champion of the World = Hero of Kiev.
 

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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol

I know, shocking eh? :Happy5:
i cant stand his insatiable. ingrateful, begging & shaming right after he gets billions
 
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I'm impressed with Mayor of Kiev....

And that is why I say Liar @Joe has a very short attention span.

Hey @The Gaslighter - would you have the courage to stay, fight & go down the ship/your city like Klitschko? Especially when everyone is fleeing?

What else would satisfy your standard of valor & courage, eh Gaslighter?

Bet you don't have those kinda guts, Gaslighter.
 
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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol

I know, shocking eh? :Happy5:
i cant stand his insatiable. ingrateful, begging & shaming right after he gets billions

He's a fully fledged puppet for the US deep state.
 

Jeannie

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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol

I know, shocking eh? :Happy5:
i cant stand his insatiable. ingrateful, begging & shaming right after he gets billions

He's a fully fledged puppet for the US deep state.

maybe, maybe not - idk

how do u know what 2 believe? everyone is an authority but everyone claims opposite things
 

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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol

I know, shocking eh? :Happy5:
i cant stand his insatiable. ingrateful, begging & shaming right after he gets billions

He's a fully fledged puppet for the US deep state.

maybe, maybe not - idk

how do u know what 2 believe? everyone is an authority but everyone claims opposite things

Never trust a Jew, especially one installed by the US ZOG government!
 
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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol

I know, shocking eh? :Happy5:
i cant stand his insatiable. ingrateful, begging & shaming right after he gets billions

He's a fully fledged puppet for the US deep state.

maybe, maybe not - idk

how do u know what 2 believe? everyone is an authority but everyone claims opposite things

Never trust a Jew, especially one installed by the US ZOG government!

But the Klitschko brothers are not Jews.

And they are also fighting for the survival of the Ukraine @Adam Hitler
 

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Hitler was right.

I'm not sure if he was.

But if Russia's historical inclinations are indicative of the present, then Ukraine appeasing Russia with guarantees that it will not join NATO won't work.

Russia will never be satisfied until it has gobbled up the Ukraine & fulfilled it's pathological Empire building appetite which they inherited from the Mongols.

It isn't America nor Nato s fault for what Russia is as its 1000 year psychosis which cannot be undone with a Treaty.

In regards to organised international jewry he was, his military strategy is another matter.

As I mentioned over on VF, I believe that this conflict is just another chapter of the centuries old feud between Russia and the Khazarian mafia.
u dont like lil hat zelensky? lol

I know, shocking eh? :Happy5:
i cant stand his insatiable. ingrateful, begging & shaming right after he gets billions

He's a fully fledged puppet for the US deep state.

maybe, maybe not - idk

how do u know what 2 believe? everyone is an authority but everyone claims opposite things

Never trust a Jew, especially one installed by the US ZOG government!
i dont even know what that is... zog wot?
 

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Anyone buying into this invasion with "putin bad man" as the sole excuse for it's beginning is a naive fucking moron who should slit their own throat immediately

because you're simply too stupid to live