I had the Privilege Yesterday of Being in the Company of an Insightful Man

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I know and have worked with quite a number of people who had lived in eastern Europe under Soviet rule over the years.
.Yesterday I attended a party at which one of the older guys, having immigrated for an eastern bloc country, who now resides often in FLA, and just happens to live only a short distance from the collapse high-rise, educated me into the factual details of the case. I mentioned it, I forget in what context, and he went on at some length to explain how the building, had it collapsed due to structural problems would have (according to an architect friend of his) toppled to the left, right , back or front. but not straight down like a controlled demolition - like the Trade Towers in fact. And how could it be that the 3 neighboring buildings, which were older (could this even be a critical clue) not have fallen also? Did you know that important persons from several other countries reside there? Who might have wanted then dead?
....and - now that this happened, owners will be compliant with fixing structural defects right away w/o delay. One must follow the money on that one.
...and I thought to myself - how like the modern trumptard with their crazy conspiracy theories and inherent distrust these people who lived under Soviet domination are. I've known ones to keep dossiers on coworkers and others who will tell you straight that they trust no one. They have all been permanently scared by their experience. Even the younger ones have adopted this mindset. I mean - from the central hypothesis of critical race theory one can understand this since their lives were always under thread from the government who was always watching. Was your own spouse, child or brother a government informant?
.But - What accounts for the trumptardian's. Could it be the Civil War which still haunts the conservative psyche? The systematic undermining of their status as rulers of the universe?
 

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Are you on drugs?

This is an honest question. You are definately using substances. You are incredibly disconnected from reality.
 

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It was Republicans that won the Civil War, you doofus.

Democrats responded with kkk and northern aggression and Jim Crow.

Conservatives didnt even exist yet.

So explain exactly how the Civil war "haunts" the psyche of anyone except the fucking leftists who hallucinate Republican confederates that never existed and are attacking statues of Fredrick Dougless?

And where the fuck do you assume conservatives are distrusting of Soviet survivors? We got people defected from NK telling Americans we are headed into authoritarianism and you idiots just keep screeching at the wrong people. Smh.
 

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And any single time I confront you to support your own claims, you retreat back into your safe place of willful ignorance

Have you found a policy or legislation from the Trump administration that could be authoritarian? Have you realized while you pretend Trump was the boogie man the monoparty is putting the Patriot Act on steroids and criminalizing "anti government" sentiment?

That Putin himself pointed to the handling of Jan 6th vs left wing riots to say "America does what Russia does as well.....so you cant complain about Russia"?
 
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It was Republicans that won the Civil War, you doofus.
Did you learn that from Trump? - He enlightened the world with his revelation that Lincoln was a Republican..."Who knew?" he said. Certainly not any scholars or people with even a casual interst and knowledge of US history.
I will simply point or yet again for the millionth time. Conservatives are conservatives and Liberals Liberals no matter what shirt or hat they are wearing.
 

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It was Republicans that won the Civil War, you doofus.
Did you learn that from Trump? - He enlightened the world with his revelation that Lincoln was a Republican..."Who knew?" he said. Certainly not any scholars or people with even a casual interst and knowledge of US history.
I will simply point or yet again for the millionth time. Conservatives are conservatives and Liberals Liberals no matter what shirt or hat they are wearing.

No I learned that because its established historical FACT.

Abraham Lincoln was the father of the Republican party.

Most people on your end wail how the "parties switched omg!" while others like you just aren't even educated enough on the Civil War to even know who did what.

And you hiding behind your labels and pretending they mean what you WANT them to mean doesnr make it so.

Again.....disconnected from reality.

You "open minded thinkers" don't consider any info that disrupts how you WANT to see things. You get angry at any info that threatens your manufactured and marketed world view that you bought hook line and sinker from entertainers and elitists.
 

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Not that I think our leftists here will even read anything their cult hive considers "right wing"(which really means any information that contradicts the set left narrative)

Much like how religious cults discredit any facts or science that calls their tenents into question or works to smear "the world" as evil and not to be trusted..... left wingers only look at info that confirms and perpetuates their existing tenets. And God forbid the useful idiots ever read something that presents the position of their opposition and they start to understand it. Nope. They are told what their opposition is and wants....and it's a leftists sin to have any real discussions or take any objective approach to understanding those outside their cult.

They are literally trained and brainwashed to hate their opposition and only listen to what their leftwing handlers say about them.

But here a history of actual racism in government and how its pretty much always been fucking democrats and still is to this day.

Of course all of this can be cited outside of these articles. Quotes, bills, legislation et can all be verified as fact for people invested more in reality than a partisan cult tag line.

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LOTS of idiotic rationalizing in this one lol. Basically its "yeah guys....it was democrats who were fighting for slavery, who started the kkk....and Jim Crow. But seriously this is how we can twist everything to blame Republicans and distance democrats from their flagrant nonstop racists policies and rhetoric!! Really guys! They've changed! Promise!"

Smfh. These people are dumb enough to buy it. You got people like H so brainwashed against his own countrymen literally indoctrinated to equate the party of abolition with slavery.......and then other useful idiots who think the parties switched.

But none of these people look at policy and legislation.
 
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Why do you keep saying Democrats when no one here considers them to be anything than the other conservatives - at least no one of liberal mind in the last 50+ years or so?
I mean, do you really think you are informing anyone, in particular people who are vastly more intelligent and experienced than you? People to whom, unlike you, these things are no recent revelation, and who are a good half century ahead of you? Why are you so hung up on parties when the issue is philosophy and spiritual type?
Conservatism I have defined many times - it's characteristics.
Do you really think a person who lives by Liberal principles would enslave another human being?
No - that is what selfish, greedy people who have no sense of caring for anyone or thing but themselves
aka conservatives do.
All hippies and other Liberals villified this man vvvvvvv

 
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I dont see any reason for us to debate any longer. The killing should start. Tree of liberty and all. I mean really, can anyone ever see us meeting in the middle again?
 

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I dont see any reason for us to debate any longer. The killing should start. Tree of liberty and all. I mean really, can anyone ever see us meeting in the middle again?

There never even WAS a debate.

Just them insulting, gaslighting, attacking and hating.

They are brainwashed to hate us. And they are not interested in talking.

H here will twist reality to assert his bullshit narratives, so he is psychological set up to never fucking hear anything.

This is far more comparable to the Revolutionary War than the Civil but these guys love supporting racists while accusing others of racism.
 

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Look at this op.

H had the priviledge(he has a lot....but shhh) to sit with a man he deems "insightful".

But how does H decide this man is insightful? Is it because the man made points and observations deeper than the surface blathering we see shoved to mainstream day after day? Objective reasoning? No.

This man is insightful because he parroted Hs preexisting beliefs and biases back at him.

Not because he inspired H to critically think about things that might challenge his world view.

Leftists decide what's good and correct based on what confirms the beliefs they already have.

They are a cult. Period. If this guy had chucked some hard questions at H .....he would have been a con trumptard bigot.
 
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Look at this op.
I'll tell you what - you look at it.
Yes, look at it when you've learned to read and then see if you recognize any of the words and the ideas carried within them as composed. You're misinterpretations and misreadings make me chuckle.
Care to link to where I wrote that conservatives distrust soviet survivors?
You can start there.
 

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LOTS of idiotic rationalizing in this one lol. Basically its "yeah guys....it was democrats who were fighting for slavery, who started the kkk....and Jim Crow. But seriously this is how we can twist everything to blame Republicans and distance democrats from their flagrant nonstop racists policies and rhetoric!! Really guys! They've changed! Promise!"

Smfh. These people are dumb enough to buy it. You got people like H so brainwashed against his own countrymen literally indoctrinated to equate the party of abolition with slavery.......and then other useful idiots who think the parties switched.

But none of these people look at policy and legislation.

Except he very clearly said there is a difference betqeen party name and ideology, didn't he? Wait. I, I'm sorry. I should be more understanding of your reading comprehension issues. There, there, Dovey. It'll be okay. Just maybe check with someone who can read before you post a response.
 

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So, back to the op. This Russian man who lived in Floriduh was sure the building was taken down. And you think it was his PTSD talking?
 
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So, back to the op. This Russian man who lived in Floriduh was sure the building was taken down. And you think it was his PTSD talking?
. He's Romanian - Transylvanian specifically.
It's what I've seen with virtually all the eastern Europeans I've known, those that is, who have lived behind the iron curtain, and in fact the suspicious and wary mindset has been passed on to children as well.
. Suspicion of government, suspicion of neighbors - no event is what it seems or is reported to be.
. With them, as with American blacks the reason is understandable. I was musing about how trumptards came to be possessed by the same syndrome. I think the answer is that they see their historical position as unquestioned rulers slipping away in the wake of social progress. Conservatives despise evilution, even though it is God's plan, so one can see how this might rankle them.
 

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So, back to the op. This Russian man who lived in Floriduh was sure the building was taken down. And you think it was his PTSD talking?
. He's Romanian - Transylvanian specifically.
It's what I've seen with virtually all the eastern Europeans I've known, those that is, who have lived behind the iron curtain, and in fact the suspicious and wary mindset has been passed on to children as well.
. Suspicion of government, suspicion of neighbors - no event is what it seems or is reported to be.
. With them, as with American blacks the reason is understandable. I was musing about how trumptards came to be possessed by the same syndrome. I think the answer is that they see their historical position as unquestioned rulers slipping away in the wake of social progress. Conservatives despise evilution, even though it is God's plan, so one can see how this might rankle them.

I'm also pretty suspicious. My suspicions stem from the multiple bs wars the US has started, the JFK assassination, 9/11, and the 2016 election. Well, the 2000 election, too. All BS, imo.
 
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So, back to the op. This Russian man who lived in Floriduh was sure the building was taken down. And you think it was his PTSD talking?
. He's Romanian - Transylvanian specifically.
It's what I've seen with virtually all the eastern Europeans I've known, those that is, who have lived behind the iron curtain, and in fact the suspicious and wary mindset has been passed on to children as well.
. Suspicion of government, suspicion of neighbors - no event is what it seems or is reported to be.
. With them, as with American blacks the reason is understandable. I was musing about how trumptards came to be possessed by the same syndrome. I think the answer is that they see their historical position as unquestioned rulers slipping away in the wake of social progress. Conservatives despise evilution, even though it is God's plan, so one can see how this might rankle them.

I'm also pretty suspicious. My suspicions stem from the multiple bs wars the US has started, the JFK assassination, 9/11, and the 2016 election. Well, the 2000 election, too. All BS, imo.
. Because some events and situations call for scrutiny. I am talking about all - pure thoughtless reaction,
with no sense of what actually warrants investigation (because all events have sinister neaning).
. If the forecast calls for sun and clouds and there's a pop-up rain shower
.what nefarious forces caused it for what purpose?
 

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So, back to the op. This Russian man who lived in Floriduh was sure the building was taken down. And you think it was his PTSD talking?
. He's Romanian - Transylvanian specifically.
It's what I've seen with virtually all the eastern Europeans I've known, those that is, who have lived behind the iron curtain, and in fact the suspicious and wary mindset has been passed on to children as well.
. Suspicion of government, suspicion of neighbors - no event is what it seems or is reported to be.
. With them, as with American blacks the reason is understandable. I was musing about how trumptards came to be possessed by the same syndrome. I think the answer is that they see their historical position as unquestioned rulers slipping away in the wake of social progress. Conservatives despise evilution, even though it is God's plan, so one can see how this might rankle them.

I'm also pretty suspicious. My suspicions stem from the multiple bs wars the US has started, the JFK assassination, 9/11, and the 2016 election. Well, the 2000 election, too. All BS, imo.
. Because some events and situations call for scrutiny. I am talking about all - pure thoughtless reaction,
with no sense of what actually warrants investigation (because all events have sinister neaning).
. If the forecast calls for sun and clouds and there's a pop-up rain shower
.what nefarious forces caused it for what purpose?

Yeah. I get ya. Kinda like cons regarding liba.
 

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It was Republicans that won the Civil War, you doofus.
Did you learn that from Trump? - He enlightened the world with his revelation that Lincoln was a Republican..."Who knew?" he said. Certainly not any scholars or people with even a casual interst and knowledge of US history.
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You're stupidity is beyond criminal at this point

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