If we get rid of guns....

Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.

You know when Columbine happened.....YOUR country had just as much guns as America.

Considering how many guns and gun owners we have in America. ....our country really isnt that violent. Most of our gun violence is gang violence(which also kills children....and women btw) and suicide.

I feel like you have a heavy bias about GUNS. So when you see these politically filtered reports of gun violence, you receive them in a way that confirms that bias.

You know what we never see reported? All the instances where if someone was unarmed.....they would be dead right now.

Yanno @Dove if all this violence continues in America, it's not inconceivable one day that martial law could be declared in the USA & it could become a police state.

Especially if there are factions on the Left & Right fighting each other as the US descends into Civil War, law & order breaks down. Then America becomes dysfunctional with vigilantes roaming the land similar to what happened in Colombia in South America.

So how do the Elites respond? By installing some strongman to restore order & in the process killing American Civil liberties. Just like what happened in Russia with Bolshevism. Or Germany with Hitler. Or more recently Turkey with Erdogan made President for life.

In each case there was an uncontrolled spread of violence so the population acquiesced which led to the rise of a dictatorship.

The Powers that be will look around and seeing they can no longer control your population - will just decide to take all your toys and priviledges away from ya'll. Similar to what a school teacher does to punish a classroom of misbehaving unruly brats. Worse yet they'll use androids, robots & ultrasurveillance to maintain order.

I don't wanna sound so grim, but it is more or less a response to @Lokmar s OP as to where America is headed unless it can resolve it's differences instead of settling every dispute with a gun.
 
Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

If I had a need to buy a gun where I live, I would.

There's been a few incidents, but no mass shootings in Vancouver.

The States and Canada seem like Night and Day by comparison.

I just hope the spread of guns in America doesn't make its way here.

America has become far too dangerous, perhaps even for a visit now @Reggie_Essent

I think if Americans want a safe vacation with their family or kids, they should come to Canada instead.

I guess if/when you DO need a gun, you can just have the attacker sit tight while you run to gun store right quick so you can run back and defend yourself with the gun you didnt need until that moment.

Good thinking.

I've been in a couple of situations where my life was in danger @Dove.

One time a bear chased me & I had to outrun it over a 200 yd stretch.

Another time I was held up with a gun in California. Another time I was chased by a car full of kids in Los Angeles.

So I been there.

I know what it feels like.

If I lived in a dangerous area like Tijuana, East LA or South Africa I might be inclined to get a gun. But where I live now it's very safe. And the police here keep it that way cuz it's a tourist area where I live. There's literally a policeman on every block here. Cripes I was almost got arrested and handcuffed by 4 burly policemen for trying to kill the car alarm in my own car

There's a Lotta tourists who come to Vancouver and they want them to stay safe. I think the majority of foreign tourists here are Americans. So naturally they want them to keep comin back to spend their tourist dollars here. If they don't feel safe they'll stop coming.

I think there was a guy once stabbing people during fireworks but they caught him. That was over 10 years ago. Again a tourist related issue. They don't want violence to get outta hand here. Otherwise it'll scare away the tourists.
 
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Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

If I had a need to buy a gun where I live, I would.

There's been a few incidents, but no mass shootings in Vancouver.

The States and Canada seem like Night and Day by comparison.

I just hope the spread of guns in America doesn't make its way here.

America has become far too dangerous, perhaps even for a visit now @Reggie_Essent

I think if Americans want a safe vacation with their family or kids, they should come to Canada instead.

I guess if/when you DO need a gun, you can just have the attacker sit tight while you run to gun store right quick so you can run back and defend yourself with the gun you didnt need until that moment.

Good thinking.

I've been in a couple of situations where my life was in danger @Dove.

One time a bear chased me & I had to outrun it over a 200 yd stretch.

Another time I was held up with a gun in California. Another time I was chased by a car full of kids in Los Angeles.

So I been there.

I know what it feels like.

If I lived in a dangerous area like Tijuana, East LA or South Africa I might be inclined to get a gun. But where I live now it's very safe. And the police here keep it that way cuz it's a tourist area where I live. There's literally a policeman on every block where I here. Cripes I was almost arrested and handcuffed by 4 burly policemen for trying to kill the car alarm in my own car

There's a Lotta tourists who come to Vancouver and they want them to stay safe. I think the majority of foreign tourists here are Americans. So naturally they want them to keep comin back to spend their tourist dollars here. If they don't feel safe they'll stop coming.

I wonder about you Joe. Bears run up to 35mph, there is no way you outran a bear. Please, share some more details.

I've been held up too, with a knife to my neck, surprise from behind.

Also been attacked by a bear.

Also attacked by a gang.

Lucky to live Joe. But I would rather have a gun and not need it, than to not have one when its needed.

Society is not as civilized and safe as most folks think.
 
Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.

You know when Columbine happened.....YOUR country had just as much guns as America.

Considering how many guns and gun owners we have in America. ....our country really isnt that violent. Most of our gun violence is gang violence(which also kills children....and women btw) and suicide.

I feel like you have a heavy bias about GUNS. So when you see these politically filtered reports of gun violence, you receive them in a way that confirms that bias.

You know what we never see reported? All the instances where if someone was unarmed.....they would be dead right now.

Yanno @Dove if all this violence continues in America, it's not inconceivable one day that martial law could be declared in the USA & it could become a police state.

Especially if there are factions on the Left & Right fighting each other as the US descends into Civil War, law & order breaks down. Then America becomes dysfunctional with vigilantes roaming the land similar to what happened in Colombia in South America.

So how do the Elites respond? By installing some strongman to restore order & in the process killing American Civil liberties. Just like what happened in Russia with Bolshevism. Or Germany with Hitler. Or more recently Turkey with Erdogan made President for life.

In each case there was an uncontrolled spread of violence so the population acquiesced which led to the rise of a dictatorship.

The Powers that be will look around and seeing they can no longer control your population - will just decide to take all your toys and priviledges away from ya'll. Similar to what a school teacher does to punish a classroom of misbehaving unruly brats. Worse yet they'll use androids, robots & ultrasurveillance to maintain order.

I don't wanna sound so grim, but it is more or less a response to @Lokmar s OP as to where America is headed unless it can resolve it's differences instead of settling every dispute with a gun.
Those democRATs will die quickly.
 
I've been in a couple of situations where my life was in danger @Dove.

One time a bear chased me & I had to outrun it over a 200 yd stretch.
Was that bear retarded or crippled? Lemme guess, you outran a cripple gimp bear!....

Shit, I'd have shot that fucker with my Desert Eagle!
 
I've been in a couple of situations where my life was in danger @Dove.

One time a bear chased me & I had to outrun it over a 200 yd stretch.
Was that bear retarded or crippled? Lemme guess, you outran a cripple gimp bear!....

Shit, I'd have shot that fucker with my Desert Eagle!

:LOL3: :LOL3: :LOL3:

Crippled gimp bear bahahahahaha!!!!

:Sad:
 
I wonder about you Joe. Bears run up to 35mph, there is no way you outran a bear. Please, share some more details.

You cannot believe any story Senile @Joe tells about himself.

He is full of shit.

That was many years ago.

While my reflexes are still quick, my bones or muscles aren't that strong anymore.

I can still move quickly, but I don't think my body can take that kinda pounding anymore @The Prowler.

I found that out on New Years Day when I feel down the stairwell and the Doctor said/thought I fractured a few ribs.

Luckily I didn't smash my head or spine.

I don't go down stairwells like that anymore @The Prowler.

It's too fucking dangerous.

I don't go into the forests anymore either.

That's why that Steve Irwin guy died.

Cuz he took too many foolish risks.

A person should never try ta play games with his life like that.

Often a person only gets one chance ta do it right the first time.

But I gotta chance ta do it again right for which I'm grateful.

Y'know Prowler, that's why one of my favorite songs is "You Only Live Twice".



....cuz I have, eh?
 
Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

People who have to live in fear of being shot are not free. How that makes you feel free is beyond me.

Who lives in fear of being shot and exactly how would taking away my rights to arm myself help them not live in fear? And why am I obligated to fix another person's mental and emotional health?

If someone is living in fear of being shot, that's called generalized anxiety disorder. Unless they live in one of our inner cities where the gun violence is a problem (areas with a lot of gun control) that fear is pretty irrational.

More people die in car accidents. We dont talk about getting rid of cars. There are people who are terrified of being in a car and dying in an accident. Do we take cars away from everyone? Of course not.

What about women who would literally live in fear of being raped? Because that would be a thing. Women living in fear of violent men is a much more rational thing considering men commit the vast majority of violent crimes against women.

Guess what our most reliable equalizer is? Guns.
 
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More people die in car accidents. We dont talk about getting rid of cars. There are people who are terrified of being in a car and dying in an accident. Do we take cars away from everyone? Of course not.

I HATE driving on the interstate. So many fucking idiots. They did NOT get the superior training that I did. lol

I see wrecks every frickin' day.

My lil sister died in a car, my lil brother's brother through his dads other wife got killed in a car.

Both the same month.

I've been hit, and had my lower vertebrae shift.

Hell, my one friend just had a car run into his house! He was on the porch, and it hit knocked him into the yard, knocked him out. He woke up in the hospital.

I've always said that when I die, it will either be heart related, or on the interstate lol.
 
Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

People who have to live in fear of being shot are not free. How that makes you feel free is beyond me.

Who lives in fear of being shot and exactly how would taking away my rights to arm myself help them not live in fear? And why am I obligated to fix another person's mental and emotional health?

If someone is living in fear of being shot, that's called generalized anxiety disorder. Unless they live in one of our inner cities where the gun violence is a problem (areas with a lot of gun control) that fear is pretty irrational.

More people die in car accidents. We dont talk about getting rid of cars. There are people who are terrified of being in a car and dying in an accident. Do we take cars away from everyone? Of course not.

What about women who would literally live in fear of being raped? Because that would be a thing. Women living in fear of violent men is a much more rational thing considering men commit the vast majority of violent crimes against women.

Guess what our most reliable equalizer is? Guns.

I wouldnt get a gun where I live @Dove.

Maybe a place like Mexico but not Vancouver.

It depends on where a person lives.
 
More people die in car accidents. We dont talk about getting rid of cars. There are people who are terrified of being in a car and dying in an accident. Do we take cars away from everyone? Of course not.

I HATE driving on the interstate. So many fucking idiots. They did NOT get the superior training that I did. lol

I see wrecks every frickin' day.

My lil sister died in a car, my lil brother's brother through his dads other wife got killed in a car.

Both the same month.

I've been hit, and had my lower vertebrae shift.

Hell, my one friend just had a car run into his house! He was on the porch, and it hit knocked him into the yard, knocked him out. He woke up in the hospital.

I've always said that when I die, it will either be heart related, or on the interstate lol.

Being the best driver on the planet wont save you from another dangerous or drunk driver.

People die every single day in car wrecks.
 
Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

People who have to live in fear of being shot are not free. How that makes you feel free is beyond me.

Who lives in fear of being shot and exactly how would taking away my rights to arm myself help them not live in fear? And why am I obligated to fix another person's mental and emotional health?

If someone is living in fear of being shot, that's called generalized anxiety disorder. Unless they live in one of our inner cities where the gun violence is a problem (areas with a lot of gun control) that fear is pretty irrational.

More people die in car accidents. We dont talk about getting rid of cars. There are people who are terrified of being in a car and dying in an accident. Do we take cars away from everyone? Of course not.

What about women who would literally live in fear of being raped? Because that would be a thing. Women living in fear of violent men is a much more rational thing considering men commit the vast majority of violent crimes against women.

Guess what our most reliable equalizer is? Guns.

I wouldnt get a gun where I live @Dove.

Maybe a place like Mexico but not Vancouver.

It depends on where a person lives.

That's your choice. I'm just pointing out that a gun typically isnt "needed" until the moment it IS needed and an attacker is NOT going to pause the attack so you can run and buy the gun now that you need it.

You dont buy insurance AFTER you total your car.

You dont get an EpiPen AFTER you get stung by the bee (because there were not a lot of bees where you live....so even though they could kill you.. you didnt think you needed the EpiPen).

See my point?

No one "needs" the gun until they DO. And it's very wise to be prepared....because when the moment arrives, it's too late.

I dont live in a high crime area. However I recognize that it only takes one fucked up person to come in here one night and attack my family. And if that happens it's best I'm prepared to defend us.

I would much rather have it and never need it.....then fucking need it and not have it.
 
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Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

People who have to live in fear of being shot are not free. How that makes you feel free is beyond me.


People who are unarmed subjects of the State are not free by definition.

Wow. Does it hurt when you twist yourself like a pretzel to come up with that shit?


Seems pretty straightforward to me. If the State denies an individual the ability to exercise his or her liberty to arm themselves, then that individual is not free by definition.

Yeah. It's also pretty straightforward that if the State denies an individual the freedom to pursue happiness and to maintain life because the State has NOT regulated that militia referenced in the 2nd, then that individual has had their freedom to pursue those unalienable rights curtailed by the State.


Damn! I missed this one. I could have totally cracked wise about pretzel logic in a stunningly glib thread tête-à-tête, but my ADD and mild autism got the better of me and I wandered off somewhere.

Pretzel away.
 
Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

People who have to live in fear of being shot are not free. How that makes you feel free is beyond me.

Who lives in fear of being shot and exactly how would taking away my rights to arm myself help them not live in fear? And why am I obligated to fix another person's mental and emotional health?

If someone is living in fear of being shot, that's called generalized anxiety disorder. Unless they live in one of our inner cities where the gun violence is a problem (areas with a lot of gun control) that fear is pretty irrational.

More people die in car accidents. We dont talk about getting rid of cars. There are people who are terrified of being in a car and dying in an accident. Do we take cars away from everyone? Of course not.

What about women who would literally live in fear of being raped? Because that would be a thing. Women living in fear of violent men is a much more rational thing considering men commit the vast majority of violent crimes against women.

Guess what our most reliable equalizer is? Guns.

I wouldnt get a gun where I live @Dove.

Maybe a place like Mexico but not Vancouver.

It depends on where a person lives.

That's your choice. I'm just pointing out that a gun typically isnt "needed" until the moment it IS needed and an attacker is NOT going to pause the attack so you can run and buy the gun now that you need it.

You dont buy insurance AFTER you total your car.

You dont get an EpiPen AFTER you get stung by the bee (because there were not a lot of bees where you live....so even though they could kill you.. you didnt think you needed the EpiPen).

See my point?

No one "needs" the gun until they DO. And it's very wise to be prepared....because when the moment arrives, it's too late.

I dont live in a high crime area. However I recognize that it only takes one fucked up person to come in here one night and attack my family. And if that happens it's best I'm prepared to defend us.

I would much rather have it and never need it.....then fucking need it and not have it.

It appears that you live in a much more violent country than I do @Dove.

And it seems to have gotten worse, more violent and dangerous since I lived there.

Oddly @Blazor 's experiences of being assaulted were similar to mine.

I got attacked, held up and threatened when I was in the US a lot too.

Anyway I survived.

But I don't forget it.
 
Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

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...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

People who have to live in fear of being shot are not free. How that makes you feel free is beyond me.


People who are unarmed subjects of the State are not free by definition.

Wow. Does it hurt when you twist yourself like a pretzel to come up with that shit?


Seems pretty straightforward to me. If the State denies an individual the ability to exercise his or her liberty to arm themselves, then that individual is not free by definition.

Yeah. It's also pretty straightforward that if the State denies an individual the freedom to pursue happiness and to maintain life because the State has NOT regulated that militia referenced in the 2nd, then that individual has had their freedom to pursue those unalienable rights curtailed by the State.


Damn! I missed this one. I could have totally cracked wise about pretzel logic in a stunningly glib thread tête-à-tête, but my ADD and mild autism got the better of me and I wandered off somewhere.

Pretzel away.

Your ADD and (more than) mild autism seem to get the better of you on the regular.
 
Just what do libtards think we will use to overthrow the federal government with when the time comes?
:Popcorn:

More like if push comes ta shove...your government will overthrow you....Lokmeer!

Take away yer guns, throw ya inta prison like those protesters from the Jan 6 riots.

Take away your farm, yer bank account and yer guns @Lokmar.

Maybe yer family too.
Na. The Egyptian government thought they couldnt be overthrown too. They were wrong. Plenty of modern day governments get overthrown even though they outgun the populace. Either way, they'll never get my guns while I'm alive.

aee0e9db5faad4835fa08cbe692b7f55eae00083fe4a6893acd8bcc864fe4c3e.jpg


...when a nation loves its guns more than its people, then more will die in the coming years...a lot more.

...Oh well.


Well Joe, an unarmed people is an unfree people. I'll take my chances on my feet and free. Feel free to kneel like a subject up there in Canada if it makes you feel better.

People who have to live in fear of being shot are not free. How that makes you feel free is beyond me.

Who lives in fear of being shot and exactly how would taking away my rights to arm myself help them not live in fear? And why am I obligated to fix another person's mental and emotional health?

If someone is living in fear of being shot, that's called generalized anxiety disorder. Unless they live in one of our inner cities where the gun violence is a problem (areas with a lot of gun control) that fear is pretty irrational.

More people die in car accidents. We dont talk about getting rid of cars. There are people who are terrified of being in a car and dying in an accident. Do we take cars away from everyone? Of course not.

What about women who would literally live in fear of being raped? Because that would be a thing. Women living in fear of violent men is a much more rational thing considering men commit the vast majority of violent crimes against women.

Guess what our most reliable equalizer is? Guns.

I wouldnt get a gun where I live @Dove.

Maybe a place like Mexico but not Vancouver.

It depends on where a person lives.

That's your choice. I'm just pointing out that a gun typically isnt "needed" until the moment it IS needed and an attacker is NOT going to pause the attack so you can run and buy the gun now that you need it.

You dont buy insurance AFTER you total your car.

You dont get an EpiPen AFTER you get stung by the bee (because there were not a lot of bees where you live....so even though they could kill you.. you didnt think you needed the EpiPen).

See my point?

No one "needs" the gun until they DO. And it's very wise to be prepared....because when the moment arrives, it's too late.

I dont live in a high crime area. However I recognize that it only takes one fucked up person to come in here one night and attack my family. And if that happens it's best I'm prepared to defend us.

I would much rather have it and never need it.....then fucking need it and not have it.

It appears that you live in a much more violent country than I do @Dove.

And it seems to have gotten worse, more violent and dangerous since I lived there.

Oddly @Blazor 's experiences of being assaulted were similar to mine.

I got attacked, held up and threatened when I was in the US a lot too.

Anyway I survived.

But I don't forget it.

Well I live here and I've told you over and over otherwise and even explained where the vast majority of our violence is.

If you emotionally need to believe America is a violent country, have at it, Joe. Interesting you would insist on this view while also thinking I should live in this "violent country" with no way to protect myself, though.

I guess what makes the country violent is the fact that if someone breaks in to assault me, my children, et.....I can shoot them and that's violent.

We gotta think of the rapists. You know, they can probably be reformed. (Obvious sarcasm)
 
Never much violence in the country, usually always in the city. Mostly Left dominant cities. And they tend to be the ones that dictate what the State does.

Where I live, the City is Left dominant, but outside that, ALL Right. And violence in the city has been getting worse for the past decade or so, and rocketed the past 2 years.

Cities also usually have more gun restrictions, especially Left ones.
 
Senile @Joe was almost raped by a bear but he acted quick and gave him oral.

Is that how the bear story went, Senile @Joe?

Y'know @The Prowler after that near death experience, it's made me realized the most important gift we are granted while we're here is the Gift of Life, eh.

Like da man sez:




[Verse]
Well you talk about important people that you say you know
Presidents and superstars of big television shows
Well I know someone personally who's bigger than them all
And next to him your superstars look mighty small

And I have a talk with him each day and he's interested in every word I say
No secretary ever tells me he's been called away I talk to Jesus every day

Well now I don't think that I'll ever be in any Hall of Fame
And the social register of wealthy folks might drop my name
But my name is written in the book of life I'm proud to say
And that's all that really matters anyway


And I talk to Jesus every day and he's interested in every word I
say
No secretary ever tells me he's been called away I talk to Jesus every day
I talk to Jesus every day
I talk to Jesus every day

...ay don't have ta be a Jesus worshipper or Christian to realize this either.

So be glad you have it while ya go got it, eh?
 
I've been in a couple of situations where my life was in danger @Dove.

One time a bear chased me & I had to outrun it over a 200 yd stretch.
Was that bear retarded or crippled? Lemme guess, you outran a cripple gimp bear!....

Shit, I'd have shot that fucker with my Desert Eagle!

That bear had a beer belly, genital piercings, and tight leather chaps.....
 
I've been in a couple of situations where my life was in danger @Dove.

One time a bear chased me & I had to outrun it over a 200 yd stretch.
Was that bear retarded or crippled? Lemme guess, you outran a cripple gimp bear!....

Shit, I'd have shot that fucker with my Desert Eagle!

That bear had a beer belly, genital piercings, and tight leather chaps.....

I'm so glad ta be alive after that incident @Frood.

Makes ya realize in the end only matters if ya escape with yer life intact eh.

That's the only thing that matters.
 
Did the bear ignite a pocket of gas in your large intestine and you burned his eyebrows off with a flaming gerbil?
 
Did the bear ignite a pocket of gas in your large intestine and you burned his eyebrows off with a flaming gerbil?

Oh. I did that to myself once when I lit the tent on fire.
Turned the stove on in the morning and it went to high and jut about burned everything down.