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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

The think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

There was actually a LOT to it. So much.

The Klan from the Reconstruction period were the good guys. They stood up to the tyranny that befell the South. But some Northerners donned some masks, killed some kneegrows, and tried to make it look like the Klan done it. So, the Klan was asked to be disbanded, and they did. The Klan that formed decades later, was the racist bunch.

What people dont know, is there was lynchings of white and blacks back then. Not just blacks. It was a different time period.

I do remembering hearing that during my years in the south.
 
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Oh look, a dumb redneck of substandard intelligence and looks :)

You're the dumbass. You're like Lotus, needs to learn some history.

Oh, I have a present for you.....

iu

Progressives actually think that the civil war was about slavery from the rip.....and that it was democrats in the north, Republicans in the south, and the Democrats beat the Republicans in the civil war.

I don't know HOW they believe this.....but they do lol

Its absolutely crazy how ignorant they are!!!!

I think you’re OK Blazer, come on. Ignorance slices both ways

I blame the school system. Its not folks fault when they learn one thing, and stick with the same narrative. But, I do blame them when they keep their mind closed, and dont bother seeking the truth, and REFUSE to believe anything else.

And you do not bother to see the black side of your "Oh, the South is so beleaguered, and we were so good" narrative.

It happened all over America, not just the South. Please educate yourself.

You are making pretty random assumptions about what I know and what I don't. I know far, far more than you think I do. I am a researcher by profession, and I understand how histories get written. The point is, only the South is making excuses for it at this point. And by the "South," I don't mean everyone in the South. I mean the apologists, like yourself.

Own the South's mistakes, along with the good. No one anywhere is all good. Carry a little grace in this thing.

The South has always just wanted to be left alone, yet after 160 years we are still under attack.

Its not that we havent "owned" our mistakes. Even the great Robert E Lee said slavery was an evil, and wished he could free all the slaves. (Yet they are tearing him down cause "SlaVEry!")

Its the fact that we are still targeted, and all the blame is set on us, when it is far from the truth!!!

What do you mean by "be left alone"? Do you consider black citizens of the South to be people who also have a say?

Careful, your ignorance is showing again.

The South seceded legally, as was allowed. They did not want a war. They wanted to be left alone.

You do know, the North despised the kneegrows more than the South right? Slavery was illegal in those states, because the truth is they didnt want the kneegrow in their neighborhood! Its why the Underground Railroad kept going to Canada for fuck sake!

Down South, a lot of slaves were treated like family. Now, I cant say they all were, but its true.

How was I showing my ignorance? I wasn't asking about the Civil War era. I was asking about now. And you never answered my question. Why?

I don't think you can quantify who despised black slaves more. That's sort of a futile pursuit. The ultimate point is, clearly the South had legal slavery for longer and it was more far reaching than it ever was in the North. You can't argue that fact. I have never claimed, and do not believe, that the North was blameless in this. Not at all.

And being treated "like family" doesn't make owning another human being okay.

Again showing your ignorance.

The South did NOT have slavery longer. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the South, as a war tactic. Thus no slave was freed til after the war. Northern states still kept their slaves through the war, because again, it was a war tactic.

Oh, didnt know you were saying "now". Thing is, those blacks with Southern roots, love their roots. Only the youngins who have been indoctrinated are blind.

Yes, slavery was bad, but before slavery... indentured servitude, was actually a good thing I think. All races went through it. You were provided shelter and clothing and meals, and after 7 years I think it was, you were released, with either land or money to provide for yourself. The Master HAD to do this, it was the law.

Unfortunately, a black man fucked it for the rest of the blacks, when Anthony Johnson (a black man), in the 1600s, went to court, and was the first person to be able to claim another person as a piece of property. Oh, he owned white slaves too.

Those slaves that were freed, were fucked! They had nothing, and many died from starvation.

If the North hadnt been so greedy for their Tariffs, the slaves would of been freed in the next few decades anyway, and with an education and means to support themselves. A lot of slaves did not want to leave their masters.
 

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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

They think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

Clearly you know nothing about the complete history of the two parties.
 

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Oh look, a dumb redneck of substandard intelligence and looks :)

You're the dumbass. You're like Lotus, needs to learn some history.

Oh, I have a present for you.....

iu

Progressives actually think that the civil war was about slavery from the rip.....and that it was democrats in the north, Republicans in the south, and the Democrats beat the Republicans in the civil war.

I don't know HOW they believe this.....but they do lol

Its absolutely crazy how ignorant they are!!!!

I think you’re OK Blazer, come on. Ignorance slices both ways

I blame the school system. Its not folks fault when they learn one thing, and stick with the same narrative. But, I do blame them when they keep their mind closed, and dont bother seeking the truth, and REFUSE to believe anything else.

And you do not bother to see the black side of your "Oh, the South is so beleaguered, and we were so good" narrative.

It happened all over America, not just the South. Please educate yourself.

You are making pretty random assumptions about what I know and what I don't. I know far, far more than you think I do. I am a researcher by profession, and I understand how histories get written. The point is, only the South is making excuses for it at this point. And by the "South," I don't mean everyone in the South. I mean the apologists, like yourself.

Own the South's mistakes, along with the good. No one anywhere is all good. Carry a little grace in this thing.


The north destroyed the prosperous south without having a plan in place and dislocated most of the blacks.

That was a pretty DUMB thing to do.
 

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Oh look, a dumb redneck of substandard intelligence and looks :)

You're the dumbass. You're like Lotus, needs to learn some history.

Oh, I have a present for you.....

iu

Progressives actually think that the civil war was about slavery from the rip.....and that it was democrats in the north, Republicans in the south, and the Democrats beat the Republicans in the civil war.

I don't know HOW they believe this.....but they do lol

Its absolutely crazy how ignorant they are!!!!

I think you’re OK Blazer, come on. Ignorance slices both ways

I blame the school system. Its not folks fault when they learn one thing, and stick with the same narrative. But, I do blame them when they keep their mind closed, and dont bother seeking the truth, and REFUSE to believe anything else.

And you do not bother to see the black side of your "Oh, the South is so beleaguered, and we were so good" narrative.

It happened all over America, not just the South. Please educate yourself.

You are making pretty random assumptions about what I know and what I don't. I know far, far more than you think I do. I am a researcher by profession, and I understand how histories get written. The point is, only the South is making excuses for it at this point. And by the "South," I don't mean everyone in the South. I mean the apologists, like yourself.

Own the South's mistakes, along with the good. No one anywhere is all good. Carry a little grace in this thing.

The South has always just wanted to be left alone, yet after 160 years we are still under attack.

Its not that we havent "owned" our mistakes. Even the great Robert E Lee said slavery was an evil, and wished he could free all the slaves. (Yet they are tearing him down cause "SlaVEry!")

Its the fact that we are still targeted, and all the blame is set on us, when it is far from the truth!!!

What do you mean by "be left alone"? Do you consider black citizens of the South to be people who also have a say?

Careful, your ignorance is showing again.

The South seceded legally, as was allowed. They did not want a war. They wanted to be left alone.

You do know, the North despised the kneegrows more than the South right? Slavery was illegal in those states, because the truth is they didnt want the kneegrow in their neighborhood! Its why the Underground Railroad kept going to Canada for fuck sake!

Down South, a lot of slaves were treated like family. Now, I cant say they all were, but its true.

How was I showing my ignorance? I wasn't asking about the Civil War era. I was asking about now. And you never answered my question. Why?

I don't think you can quantify who despised black slaves more. That's sort of a futile pursuit. The ultimate point is, clearly the South had legal slavery for longer and it was more far reaching than it ever was in the North. You can't argue that fact. I have never claimed, and do not believe, that the North was blameless in this. Not at all. I am fully aware that plenty of people in the North profited off slavery, and that plenty of Northerners turned in runaway slaves, etc.

But, like I said before, you in the South are the ones all butthurt about the confederate flag and the statues and are making a civil case out of it. If you white Southerners who adore the Confederacy so much were more willing to own your and your ancestors' mistakes and dialog with blacks who are hurt by the flags and the statues, maybe this could be resolved amicably. But now, you're acting like haters who do not care about black perspectives.

And being treated "like family" doesn't make owning another human being okay.

WHICH black perspectives?

Because whenever a black person starts challenging or calling out left talking points.....do you know what happens?

Have you seen the disgusting racist abuse flung at Candice Owens?
 

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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

They think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

Clearly you know nothing about the complete history of the two parties.

I know enough to know the "party switch" is BS propaganda.

Can you explain why democrats literally refuse to allow inner city kids to attend better schools and why they refuse to reform criminal justice?
 
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@Blazor ~ how far back can you trace your lineage in the south?

1792 in Caroline County, Virginia.

I believe he came from Ireland, and was Scots Irish.

My dad thought it was James, but John was his dad, and the one born in 1792. Im still tracing.
 

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Oh look, a dumb redneck of substandard intelligence and looks :)

You're the dumbass. You're like Lotus, needs to learn some history.

Oh, I have a present for you.....

iu

Progressives actually think that the civil war was about slavery from the rip.....and that it was democrats in the north, Republicans in the south, and the Democrats beat the Republicans in the civil war.

I don't know HOW they believe this.....but they do lol

Its absolutely crazy how ignorant they are!!!!

I think you’re OK Blazer, come on. Ignorance slices both ways

I blame the school system. Its not folks fault when they learn one thing, and stick with the same narrative. But, I do blame them when they keep their mind closed, and dont bother seeking the truth, and REFUSE to believe anything else.

And you do not bother to see the black side of your "Oh, the South is so beleaguered, and we were so good" narrative.

It happened all over America, not just the South. Please educate yourself.

You are making pretty random assumptions about what I know and what I don't. I know far, far more than you think I do. I am a researcher by profession, and I understand how histories get written. The point is, only the South is making excuses for it at this point. And by the "South," I don't mean everyone in the South. I mean the apologists, like yourself.

Own the South's mistakes, along with the good. No one anywhere is all good. Carry a little grace in this thing.

The South has always just wanted to be left alone, yet after 160 years we are still under attack.

Its not that we havent "owned" our mistakes. Even the great Robert E Lee said slavery was an evil, and wished he could free all the slaves. (Yet they are tearing him down cause "SlaVEry!")

Its the fact that we are still targeted, and all the blame is set on us, when it is far from the truth!!!

What do you mean by "be left alone"? Do you consider black citizens of the South to be people who also have a say?

Careful, your ignorance is showing again.

The South seceded legally, as was allowed. They did not want a war. They wanted to be left alone.

You do know, the North despised the kneegrows more than the South right? Slavery was illegal in those states, because the truth is they didnt want the kneegrow in their neighborhood! Its why the Underground Railroad kept going to Canada for fuck sake!

Down South, a lot of slaves were treated like family. Now, I cant say they all were, but its true.

How was I showing my ignorance? I wasn't asking about the Civil War era. I was asking about now. And you never answered my question. Why?

I don't think you can quantify who despised black slaves more. That's sort of a futile pursuit. The ultimate point is, clearly the South had legal slavery for longer and it was more far reaching than it ever was in the North. You can't argue that fact. I have never claimed, and do not believe, that the North was blameless in this. Not at all.

And being treated "like family" doesn't make owning another human being okay.

Again showing your ignorance.

The South did NOT have slavery longer. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the South, as a war tactic. Thus no slave was freed til after the war. Northern states still kept their slaves through the war, because again, it was a war tactic.

Oh, didnt know you were saying "now". Thing is, those blacks with Southern roots, love their roots. Only the youngins who have been indoctrinated are blind.

Yes, slavery was bad, but before slavery... indentured servitude, was actually a good thing I think. All races went through it. You were provided shelter and clothing and meals, and after 7 years I think it was, you were released, with either land or money to provide for yourself. The Master HAD to do this, it was the law.

Unfortunately, a black man fucked it for the rest of the blacks, when Anthony Johnson (a black man), in the 1600s, went to court, and was the first person to be able to claim another person as a piece of property. Oh, he owned white slaves too.

Those slaves that were freed, were fucked! They had nothing, and many died from starvation.

If the North hadnt been so greedy for their Tariffs, the slaves would of been freed in the next few decades anyway, and with an education and means to support themselves. A lot of slaves did not want to leave their masters.

OMG. Indentured servitude was not good. It was much like human trafficking is now. People were enslaved to whoever funded their travel across the Atlantic, and had to work for years to pay that off. It was a brutal system.

And low-wage slavery now is also a brutal system. All of these systems are about getting work done while not having to pay the workers living wages.

Why was England able to outlaw slavery decades before the US? Stop making excuses for the system, and trying to make the North seem worse than the South. It's not a contest. The system was evil. Period.
 
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Are you all like 90 years old?

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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

The think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

There was actually a LOT to it. So much.

The Klan from the Reconstruction period were the good guys. They stood up to the tyranny that befell the South. But some Northerners donned some masks, killed some kneegrows, and tried to make it look like the Klan done it. So, the Klan was asked to be disbanded, and they did. The Klan that formed decades later, was the racist bunch.

What people dont know, is there was lynchings of white and blacks back then. Not just blacks. It was a different time period.

I do remembering hearing that during my years in the south.

Its true. If I have time later I'll find the article.

Lynching was going on, because justice wasnt being served. It happened to blacks and whites, etc. People took the law into their own hands. Because during the Reconstruction period, the South was shit on. Yankees put THEIR peeps in charge.

There is SO much to it all.
 
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Oh look, a dumb redneck of substandard intelligence and looks :)

You're the dumbass. You're like Lotus, needs to learn some history.

Oh, I have a present for you.....

iu

Progressives actually think that the civil war was about slavery from the rip.....and that it was democrats in the north, Republicans in the south, and the Democrats beat the Republicans in the civil war.

I don't know HOW they believe this.....but they do lol

Its absolutely crazy how ignorant they are!!!!

I think you’re OK Blazer, come on. Ignorance slices both ways

I blame the school system. Its not folks fault when they learn one thing, and stick with the same narrative. But, I do blame them when they keep their mind closed, and dont bother seeking the truth, and REFUSE to believe anything else.

And you do not bother to see the black side of your "Oh, the South is so beleaguered, and we were so good" narrative.

It happened all over America, not just the South. Please educate yourself.

You are making pretty random assumptions about what I know and what I don't. I know far, far more than you think I do. I am a researcher by profession, and I understand how histories get written. The point is, only the South is making excuses for it at this point. And by the "South," I don't mean everyone in the South. I mean the apologists, like yourself.

Own the South's mistakes, along with the good. No one anywhere is all good. Carry a little grace in this thing.


The north destroyed the prosperous south without having a plan in place and dislocated most of the blacks.

That was a pretty DUMB thing to do.

Bingo! A lot starved to death!

All over money.
 
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Oh look, a dumb redneck of substandard intelligence and looks :)

You're the dumbass. You're like Lotus, needs to learn some history.

Oh, I have a present for you.....

iu

Progressives actually think that the civil war was about slavery from the rip.....and that it was democrats in the north, Republicans in the south, and the Democrats beat the Republicans in the civil war.

I don't know HOW they believe this.....but they do lol

Its absolutely crazy how ignorant they are!!!!

I think you’re OK Blazer, come on. Ignorance slices both ways

I blame the school system. Its not folks fault when they learn one thing, and stick with the same narrative. But, I do blame them when they keep their mind closed, and dont bother seeking the truth, and REFUSE to believe anything else.

And you do not bother to see the black side of your "Oh, the South is so beleaguered, and we were so good" narrative.

It happened all over America, not just the South. Please educate yourself.

You are making pretty random assumptions about what I know and what I don't. I know far, far more than you think I do. I am a researcher by profession, and I understand how histories get written. The point is, only the South is making excuses for it at this point. And by the "South," I don't mean everyone in the South. I mean the apologists, like yourself.

Own the South's mistakes, along with the good. No one anywhere is all good. Carry a little grace in this thing.

The South has always just wanted to be left alone, yet after 160 years we are still under attack.

Its not that we havent "owned" our mistakes. Even the great Robert E Lee said slavery was an evil, and wished he could free all the slaves. (Yet they are tearing him down cause "SlaVEry!")

Its the fact that we are still targeted, and all the blame is set on us, when it is far from the truth!!!

What do you mean by "be left alone"? Do you consider black citizens of the South to be people who also have a say?

Careful, your ignorance is showing again.

The South seceded legally, as was allowed. They did not want a war. They wanted to be left alone.

You do know, the North despised the kneegrows more than the South right? Slavery was illegal in those states, because the truth is they didnt want the kneegrow in their neighborhood! Its why the Underground Railroad kept going to Canada for fuck sake!

Down South, a lot of slaves were treated like family. Now, I cant say they all were, but its true.

How was I showing my ignorance? I wasn't asking about the Civil War era. I was asking about now. And you never answered my question. Why?

I don't think you can quantify who despised black slaves more. That's sort of a futile pursuit. The ultimate point is, clearly the South had legal slavery for longer and it was more far reaching than it ever was in the North. You can't argue that fact. I have never claimed, and do not believe, that the North was blameless in this. Not at all.

And being treated "like family" doesn't make owning another human being okay.

Again showing your ignorance.

The South did NOT have slavery longer. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the South, as a war tactic. Thus no slave was freed til after the war. Northern states still kept their slaves through the war, because again, it was a war tactic.

Oh, didnt know you were saying "now". Thing is, those blacks with Southern roots, love their roots. Only the youngins who have been indoctrinated are blind.

Yes, slavery was bad, but before slavery... indentured servitude, was actually a good thing I think. All races went through it. You were provided shelter and clothing and meals, and after 7 years I think it was, you were released, with either land or money to provide for yourself. The Master HAD to do this, it was the law.

Unfortunately, a black man fucked it for the rest of the blacks, when Anthony Johnson (a black man), in the 1600s, went to court, and was the first person to be able to claim another person as a piece of property. Oh, he owned white slaves too.

Those slaves that were freed, were fucked! They had nothing, and many died from starvation.

If the North hadnt been so greedy for their Tariffs, the slaves would of been freed in the next few decades anyway, and with an education and means to support themselves. A lot of slaves did not want to leave their masters.

OMG. Indentured servitude was not good. It was much like human trafficking is now. People were enslaved to whoever funded their travel across the Atlantic, and had to work for years to pay that off. It was a brutal system.

And low-wage slavery now is also a brutal system. All of these systems are about getting work done while not having to pay the workers living wages.

Why was England able to outlaw slavery decades before the US? Stop making excuses for the system, and trying to make the North seem worse than the South. It's not a contest. The system was evil. Period.

Remind me to get into this later, when I get home.
 

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Oh look, a dumb redneck of substandard intelligence and looks :)

You're the dumbass. You're like Lotus, needs to learn some history.

Oh, I have a present for you.....

iu

Progressives actually think that the civil war was about slavery from the rip.....and that it was democrats in the north, Republicans in the south, and the Democrats beat the Republicans in the civil war.

I don't know HOW they believe this.....but they do lol

Its absolutely crazy how ignorant they are!!!!

I think you’re OK Blazer, come on. Ignorance slices both ways

I blame the school system. Its not folks fault when they learn one thing, and stick with the same narrative. But, I do blame them when they keep their mind closed, and dont bother seeking the truth, and REFUSE to believe anything else.

And you do not bother to see the black side of your "Oh, the South is so beleaguered, and we were so good" narrative.

It happened all over America, not just the South. Please educate yourself.

You are making pretty random assumptions about what I know and what I don't. I know far, far more than you think I do. I am a researcher by profession, and I understand how histories get written. The point is, only the South is making excuses for it at this point. And by the "South," I don't mean everyone in the South. I mean the apologists, like yourself.

Own the South's mistakes, along with the good. No one anywhere is all good. Carry a little grace in this thing.

The South has always just wanted to be left alone, yet after 160 years we are still under attack.

Its not that we havent "owned" our mistakes. Even the great Robert E Lee said slavery was an evil, and wished he could free all the slaves. (Yet they are tearing him down cause "SlaVEry!")

Its the fact that we are still targeted, and all the blame is set on us, when it is far from the truth!!!

What do you mean by "be left alone"? Do you consider black citizens of the South to be people who also have a say?

Careful, your ignorance is showing again.

The South seceded legally, as was allowed. They did not want a war. They wanted to be left alone.

You do know, the North despised the kneegrows more than the South right? Slavery was illegal in those states, because the truth is they didnt want the kneegrow in their neighborhood! Its why the Underground Railroad kept going to Canada for fuck sake!

Down South, a lot of slaves were treated like family. Now, I cant say they all were, but its true.

How was I showing my ignorance? I wasn't asking about the Civil War era. I was asking about now. And you never answered my question. Why?

I don't think you can quantify who despised black slaves more. That's sort of a futile pursuit. The ultimate point is, clearly the South had legal slavery for longer and it was more far reaching than it ever was in the North. You can't argue that fact. I have never claimed, and do not believe, that the North was blameless in this. Not at all.

And being treated "like family" doesn't make owning another human being okay.

Again showing your ignorance.

The South did NOT have slavery longer. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the South, as a war tactic. Thus no slave was freed til after the war. Northern states still kept their slaves through the war, because again, it was a war tactic.

Oh, didnt know you were saying "now". Thing is, those blacks with Southern roots, love their roots. Only the youngins who have been indoctrinated are blind.

Yes, slavery was bad, but before slavery... indentured servitude, was actually a good thing I think. All races went through it. You were provided shelter and clothing and meals, and after 7 years I think it was, you were released, with either land or money to provide for yourself. The Master HAD to do this, it was the law.

Unfortunately, a black man fucked it for the rest of the blacks, when Anthony Johnson (a black man), in the 1600s, went to court, and was the first person to be able to claim another person as a piece of property. Oh, he owned white slaves too.

Those slaves that were freed, were fucked! They had nothing, and many died from starvation.

If the North hadnt been so greedy for their Tariffs, the slaves would of been freed in the next few decades anyway, and with an education and means to support themselves. A lot of slaves did not want to leave their masters.

OMG. Indentured servitude was not good. It was much like human trafficking is now. People were enslaved to whoever funded their travel across the Atlantic, and had to work for years to pay that off. It was a brutal system.

And low-wage slavery now is also a brutal system. All of these systems are about getting work done while not having to pay the workers living wages.

Why was England able to outlaw slavery decades before the US? Stop making excuses for the system, and trying to make the North seem worse than the South. It's not a contest. The system was evil. Period.

Indentured servitude was how people survived in a time where you couldnt just go apply to work at a Miejer or a Walgreens, Lotus.

It's not good by todays standards but back then it was. People would have starved.

It's important to understand the time periods and the culture when you are making judgements on the past.

Blazor isnt "making excuses" for anything. What do you even mean by that? Because we dont do that collectivist "we must pay or be responsible for the wrong doings of ancestors" shit.
 

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@Blazor ~ how far back can you trace your lineage in the south?

1792 in Caroline County, Virginia.

I believe he came from Ireland, and was Scots Irish.

My dad thought it was James, but John was his dad, and the one born in 1792. Im still tracing.

WOW

You beat my family by over 100 years… my Norwegian great-grandmother was the bastard of a 30 something widow and her 20 something field hand.. both were part of the anti-slavery movement in Norway before she came over in 1896.

I can trace my fathers lineage back to 15th century England and we had a title before King Henry VIII died and it was stripped. The castle my ancestors lived in is still there and the town is still named after my surname. My grandfather was born Protestant and converted to Catholicism to marry his virgin Irish Catholic bride… which she would never let us forget our Irish heritage, despite only being 1/2 raised in England lol
 
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@Blazor ~ how far back can you trace your lineage in the south?

1792 in Caroline County, Virginia.

I believe he came from Ireland, and was Scots Irish.

My dad thought it was James, but John was his dad, and the one born in 1792. Im still tracing.

WOW

You beat my family by over 100 years… my Norwegian great-grandmother was the bastard of a 30 something widow and her 20 something field hand.. both were part of the anti-slavery movement in Norway before she came over in 1896.

I can trace my fathers lineage back to 15th century England and we had a title before King Henry VIII died and it was stripped. The castle my ancestors lived in is still there and the town is still named after my surname. My grandfather was born Protestant and converted to Christianity to marry his virgin Irish Catholic bride… which she would never let us forget our Irish heritage, despite only being 1/2 raised in England lol

Nice!

It was my great great grandfather who was in the War of Northern Aggression.

My great great great grandfather was the one born in 1792. He didnt start having kids til he was 55, and had almost 10 kids til he was 75 lol.
 

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@Blazor ~ how far back can you trace your lineage in the south?

1792 in Caroline County, Virginia.

I believe he came from Ireland, and was Scots Irish.

My dad thought it was James, but John was his dad, and the one born in 1792. Im still tracing.

WOW

You beat my family by over 100 years… my Norwegian great-grandmother was the bastard of a 30 something widow and her 20 something field hand.. both were part of the anti-slavery movement in Norway before she came over in 1896.

I can trace my fathers lineage back to 15th century England and we had a title before King Henry VIII died and it was stripped. The castle my ancestors lived in is still there and the town is still named after my surname. My grandfather was born Protestant and converted to Christianity to marry his virgin Irish Catholic bride… which she would never let us forget our Irish heritage, despite only being 1/2 raised in England lol

Nice!

It was my great great grandfather who was in the War of Northern Aggression.

My great great great grandfather was the one born in 1792. He didnt start having kids til he was 55, and had almost 10 kids til he was 75 lol.

That is amazing…. I have never met anyone who has an ancestor who served in that war.

I did know a black girl in college who was the only person I’ve ever known who could trace her lineage back to slavery… her grandfather was the product of a male owner and female slave.

I’ve always been drawn to this era for some reason. Probably past life transgression… if you believe in that sort of thing lol
 

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It has nothing to do with Blazor... It has to do with our National monuments being torn down and our history being destroyed because of bird brain leftist :( It truly breaks my heart.

So you rec his racist posts, and shit rec my anti-racist posts? Sorry, I didn't realize you were another white supremacist. There are so many here, it's hard to keep track.

American White Supremacy is the product of the British class system. America's original colonial rulers - wealthy upper class Brits looked down upon working class Whites who would later become the original US citizens, in turn had to look down upon somebody else, so it was the Black slaves, who were even lower than them. Thus in America the color bar became America's defacto class system.
 

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It has nothing to do with Blazor... It has to do with our National monuments being torn down and our history being destroyed because of bird brain leftist :( It truly breaks my heart.

So you rec his racist posts, and shit rec my anti-racist posts? Sorry, I didn't realize you were another white supremacist. There are so many here, it's hard to keep track.

American White Supremacy is the product of the British class system. America's original colonial rulers - wealthy upper class Brits looked down upon working class Whites who would later become the original US citizens, in turn had to look down upon somebody else, so it was the Black slaves, who were even lower than them. Thus in America the color bar became America's defacto class system.

The people who actually came over from England were the social pariahs of this elitist socioeconomic society… mostly commissioned by Queen Elizabeth because she didn’t want to deal with them.

We are a nation built by misfits.
 

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The people who actually came over from England were the social pariahs of this elitist socioeconomic society… mostly commissioned by Queen Elizabeth because she didn’t want to deal with them.

We are a nation built by misfits.

Is that why the USA is so dysfunctional today?
 

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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

The think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

There was actually a LOT to it. So much.

The Klan from the Reconstruction period were the good guys. They stood up to the tyranny that befell the South. But some Northerners donned some masks, killed some kneegrows, and tried to make it look like the Klan done it. So, the Klan was asked to be disbanded, and they did. The Klan that formed decades later, was the racist bunch.

What people dont know, is there was lynchings of white and blacks back then. Not just blacks. It was a different time period.

I do remembering hearing that during my years in the south.

Its true. If I have time later I'll find the article.

Lynching was going on, because justice wasnt being served. It happened to blacks and whites, etc. People took the law into their own hands. Because during the Reconstruction period, the South was shit on. Yankees put THEIR peeps in charge.

There is SO much to it all.

Yes, there is. And you only seem interested in the part that absolves white, rather than in the whole truth.
 

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The people who actually came over from England were the social pariahs of this elitist socioeconomic society… mostly commissioned by Queen Elizabeth because she didn’t want to deal with them.

We are a nation built by misfits.

Is that why the USA is so dysfunctional today?p CD

Hell yes. England funded our original colonies… and how did we repay our motherland? A bunch of slave-owning aristocratic males didn’t want to pay their taxes and organized a rebellion. They would have been hanged for treason had they not won that battle.

I’m of British decent… this is why I LOLzzz when people complain about things here post civil war. Like GTFO lol
 

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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

The think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

There was actually a LOT to it. So much.

The Klan from the Reconstruction period were the good guys. They stood up to the tyranny that befell the South. But some Northerners donned some masks, killed some kneegrows, and tried to make it look like the Klan done it. So, the Klan was asked to be disbanded, and they did. The Klan that formed decades later, was the racist bunch.

What people dont know, is there was lynchings of white and blacks back then. Not just blacks. It was a different time period.

I do remembering hearing that during my years in the south.

Its true. If I have time later I'll find the article.

Lynching was going on, because justice wasnt being served. It happened to blacks and whites, etc. People took the law into their own hands. Because during the Reconstruction period, the South was shit on. Yankees put THEIR peeps in charge.

There is SO much to it all.

Yes, there is. And you only seem interested in the part that absolves white, rather than in the whole truth.

White people do not need to be "absolved", Lotus. That's what you guys dont seem to understand.

Absolutely no one agrees with owning slaves, of any color. We do not think in this collectivist manner that you are presenting. We think in terms of individuals.

He doesnt even THINK in the terms you are thinking. So he has absolutely no motivation or thought that white people would be "absolved" or need to be.

We are speaking completely different languages from completely different perspectives. Often times you guys try to force us and decide our motivate based on how you view the world....through that collective lense that we completely reject.

I guess your motive here is some attempt to "convict" white people, so you view his refutation to your narrative as an attempt to "absolve" when really he is just talking about Southern history, from the southern perspective (even many Southern black people share this perspective... it's not all about race)

What I really wish is that people could simply learn from history rather than revising it for a political agenda and that all this energy surrounding slavery of the past (which btw....was abolished. By Republicans even) could be placed on modern day human trafficking, because that's actually a REAL problem right now.

Lots of talk about equality and rights while children and adults are being sold right in our backyards, and people want to cut police funding.

Is real trafficking not as fun? Is it because its mostly women and girls and thusly not as pressing as making sure male criminals can chose not to be arrested....so long as they are black?
 

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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

The think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

There was actually a LOT to it. So much.

The Klan from the Reconstruction period were the good guys. They stood up to the tyranny that befell the South. But some Northerners donned some masks, killed some kneegrows, and tried to make it look like the Klan done it. So, the Klan was asked to be disbanded, and they did. The Klan that formed decades later, was the racist bunch.

What people dont know, is there was lynchings of white and blacks back then. Not just blacks. It was a different time period.

I do remembering hearing that during my years in the south.

Its true. If I have time later I'll find the article.

Lynching was going on, because justice wasnt being served. It happened to blacks and whites, etc. People took the law into their own hands. Because during the Reconstruction period, the South was shit on. Yankees put THEIR peeps in charge.

There is SO much to it all.

Were those Blacks that were hung, simply hung for no reason at all? Murdering Black without proof or a trial is FuckEd up. No excuses. I hope you understand that. If you don’t, that will change how I feel about you.
 

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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

The think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

There was actually a LOT to it. So much.

The Klan from the Reconstruction period were the good guys. They stood up to the tyranny that befell the South. But some Northerners donned some masks, killed some kneegrows, and tried to make it look like the Klan done it. So, the Klan was asked to be disbanded, and they did. The Klan that formed decades later, was the racist bunch.

What people dont know, is there was lynchings of white and blacks back then. Not just blacks. It was a different time period.

I do remembering hearing that during my years in the south.

Its true. If I have time later I'll find the article.

Lynching was going on, because justice wasnt being served. It happened to blacks and whites, etc. People took the law into their own hands. Because during the Reconstruction period, the South was shit on. Yankees put THEIR peeps in charge.

There is SO much to it all.

Were those Blacks that were hung, simply hung for no reason at all? Murdering Black without proof or a trial is FuckEd up. No excuses. I hope you understand that. If you don’t, that will change how I feel about you.

None of the people lynched had a trial. It was barbaric.

As he said, there was no justice served....it was just a mess.
 

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Personally, I’m glad they are pulling this subject entirely from the public school curriculum. Half of us believe the horrors that resulted from slavery and the other half are in complete denial.

I don’t believe Blazor is racist. I think he is overtly vocal about his dislike of the black criminal element, which people on the west coast are not accustomed to. We tend to recognize that poverty is playing a major role there and that something needs to change.
 

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They really do not understand what you are doing here.

Incredible lol.

I could school them on the Klan, how it really was, but I dont have THAT kind of patience lol. Its hard enough trying to school them on the South!

They were democrat voters. It's as simple as that. It's not some hidden info.

The think the "parties switched" platforms one day out of the blue for no reason. Just flip!

When in reality democrats shifted their tactics and narratives after Republicans won the right to vote for black citizens.

Any objective critical look at inner cities makes that obvious.

There was actually a LOT to it. So much.

The Klan from the Reconstruction period were the good guys. They stood up to the tyranny that befell the South. But some Northerners donned some masks, killed some kneegrows, and tried to make it look like the Klan done it. So, the Klan was asked to be disbanded, and they did. The Klan that formed decades later, was the racist bunch.

What people dont know, is there was lynchings of white and blacks back then. Not just blacks. It was a different time period.

I do remembering hearing that during my years in the south.

Its true. If I have time later I'll find the article.

Lynching was going on, because justice wasnt being served. It happened to blacks and whites, etc. People took the law into their own hands. Because during the Reconstruction period, the South was shit on. Yankees put THEIR peeps in charge.

There is SO much to it all.

Were those Blacks that were hung, simply hung for no reason at all? Murdering Black without proof or a trial is FuckEd up. No excuses. I hope you understand that. If you don’t, that will change how I feel about you.
Asshole, them being black has NOTHING to do with it! Here, I'll fix it for you:
"Were those people that were hanged, simply hanged for no reason at all?"
 

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Every person who is a citizen of this country is guaranteed due process of law… that includes a trial by jury.

Lynchings are unconstitutional… and they happened A LOT, which is how we ended up having the civil rights movement of the 1960s.