Let's make a Pool, which US State will be the first to prosecute a woman for having a miscarry?

Every little girls dream?

Find her a porn sick scrote who will dump her off at Planned Parenthood if she gets "oppressed" by her own body.

But gotdammit.....those men are HARD to find. Everywhere a woman turns she hears some Republican saying "Oh man! You are beautiful, miss. Let me court you and love and support you as a human being and build a family with you!" and that's oppressive as fuck! Like the 1950s!

Where are all the men willing to use and abuse me? It's real hard to find these days.
You misspoke there a bit. A males political party has nothing to do with whether he's a dog or not. They come in all shapes and sizes, across the board.

I was making fun of how bro choicers like Admin try to make Republican men out to be these honorable and loving family men and that pitiful attempt to sell the idea that men who wants families are oppressors while these left wing bro choice scrotes are liberating us from any pretenses of humanity.

So we can do sex work, porn, and engage in hook up culture and believe that's "liberation".
I see. Fair enough.
I'm new here, mind you.
Just trying to find my way.
LOL

Welcome ♡

Good luck getting any sort of clear and consistent responses from Admin.

His politcal stance is "right wing bad. Media good".....so its impossible for him to have any coherent interactions.

His premise is we all suck. So he only spews stuff that he thinks supports that premise. No matter how wrong it is.
Plus he’s a dripping pussy from Oregon where even the state leaders believe bois like him require tampons
Ohhhh, right. The nignog of Oregon, I remember now.
Black Lives Matter, yo.
In his case that would be Black Length Matters

he’s a real cock fiend
Thanks alot...
Threw up a bit in my throat.
So gross.
A lot of black cocks throw up in his mouth too. He seems to love it too
Please stop.
Hahaaaaaaaa
 
Every little girls dream?

Find her a porn sick scrote who will dump her off at Planned Parenthood if she gets "oppressed" by her own body.

But gotdammit.....those men are HARD to find. Everywhere a woman turns she hears some Republican saying "Oh man! You are beautiful, miss. Let me court you and love and support you as a human being and build a family with you!" and that's oppressive as fuck! Like the 1950s!

Where are all the men willing to use and abuse me? It's real hard to find these days.
You misspoke there a bit. A males political party has nothing to do with whether he's a dog or not. They come in all shapes and sizes, across the board.

I was making fun of how bro choicers like Admin try to make Republican men out to be these honorable and loving family men and that pitiful attempt to sell the idea that men who wants families are oppressors while these left wing bro choice scrotes are liberating us from any pretenses of humanity.

So we can do sex work, porn, and engage in hook up culture and believe that's "liberation".
I see. Fair enough.
I'm new here, mind you.
Just trying to find my way.
LOL

Welcome ♡

Good luck getting any sort of clear and consistent responses from Admin.

His politcal stance is "right wing bad. Media good".....so its impossible for him to have any coherent interactions.

His premise is we all suck. So he only spews stuff that he thinks supports that premise. No matter how wrong it is.
Plus he’s a dripping pussy from Oregon where even the state leaders believe bois like him require tampons
Ohhhh, right. The nignog of Oregon, I remember now.
Black Lives Matter, yo.
In his case that would be Black Length Matters

he’s a real cock fiend
Thanks alot...
Threw up a bit in my throat.
So gross.
A lot of black cocks throw up in his mouth too. He seems to love it too
Please stop.
Hahaaaaaaaa

He never stops lol.
 


Seems too extreme.

I thought new laws like they have in Texas would lead to this.


Ever heard of that case where this woman was hooked on meth, her and her husband....and she got pregnant, carried and killed 6 or 7 of her babies and put the bodies in the garage?

I think she was sentenced to life in prison. Was that extreme?

Are you aware that we are talking about ending a human life?


I remember there was a woman in Texas who did something like that. She was from some religious background. Respectable. A Nurse. Not ghetto. White. Had 5 kids. But her husband kept making her pregnant. She became depressed and unhinged then killed her kids. But if I remember correctly she was acquitted because of her mental state/condition.




There's also this issue of husbands who want their wives to be baby machines til they flip out like that. Cant they see when the wife has had it?


You way over simplified Andrea Yates. She had post partum psychosis and wasnt even fit to stand trial.

Her disgusting husband should have been charged with manslaughter for each childs death.

Most people do not do what Yates husband did, Joe. Her doctors were literally screaming at him that she needed immediate care and not to be alone with the kids.


Not that her husband was blameless, but I think he felt somewhat responsible for what happened afterwards.

I've often noticed that whenever a woman is expected to have too many children they become angry and resentful later in life. Especially towards their husbands. Sometimes they just can't handle it & go beserk like that.

Guy who does that to his wife risks putting her into an early grave.


He was literally 100 percent responsible because she was incompetent, and her doctors made this very clear and HE kept getting her pregnant and then leaving the children alone with her.

She was not connected to reality. She was a rare case of post partum psychosis. She had no idea what she was doing.....and the husband should have listened to the doctors. This woman should have been admitted into some inpatient care. Not left alone with children when she wasnt even fit to look after herself.

Its 100 percent his fault this happened.


I actally know a guy whom I believe impregnated his wife to death. She had 5 or 6 children by him until 1 day she finally croaked.

Thing is...he talked about her as if she was still alive. He was an instructor at a college who kept rambling on about his wife as if she was still here. "MY wife this, my wife that."

..and then one day he said to the entire class..." You know what? My wife is no longer here. SHE passed away."

He was clearly still grieving for her.

I think he quite literally Loved her to death.

He was evidently quite selfish and in the end paid the price with his loneliness.


I think your anti child bias is telling you her pregnancies killed her and that if she wasnt a mother she would be alive today.

And that likely her motherhood MAY have played a small part, if any, in her cause of death.

I know of women who died from abortion complications. Cervical lacerations, uterine perforation, post surg hemorrhage or pneumonia and other infections are real. As is a heightened risk of suicide and/or substance abuse.

But I can sympathize with the males pressing need to brainwash women into viewing the natural abilities of our awesome bodies as a form of slavery or a curse and instead have us perform for the sexual pleasure of men. Without any threat of long term commitment.

Oh wait no.....that was just gas.

Carry on.


No. I'm not saying that.

Just that fewer children would probably have been more fulfilling and more appropriate.
Like in the Andrea Yates case.

Why can't a woman be a good mother to 2 or 3 children instead of 5,6 or 10?

It's evident when too much is simply too much for a person to handle.

It's liek pouring water into a jug and it overflows.

Well...common sense would just say don't fill it past the brim otherwise the jug can't take any more water.

What I gleaned from his example is that sometimes a guy has to give a woman some breathing room to breathe.


The only person who can speak on that is the individual mother, Joe.

You have no idea what child beating and motherhood is like or how fulfilled or unfulfilled a mother is with the size of her brood.

Be careful here, Joe. You are doing more projecting than anything.


Actually I knew a Canadian womeh who married this guy in the States and he called himself a reformed Catholic. so when they got married, he siad it was his goal to have 10 children.

Subsequently, they had many children til they made it to 9.

Then one day he fell ill.

The doctors said he needed a blood transfusion.

But he refused on 'religious' grounds and later died leaving his wife with 9 children to raise.

Actually, I think it was more a case of the guy couldn't handle that many children.

I think when he died he wasn't even 40 or just barely that.

He probably realized the monstrosity he created as in "Dr. Frankenstein, I've created a Monster!"

so, the only way outta that was to die.

"Please doctor don't save me."

and so the story went. True story, I'm not making it up.

But that sorta thinking can also turn around and bite the author in the ass too.


Joe that religious conviction to reject blood transfusions is no joke. Those people are very serious.

It's weird to those of us who have no issue with that sort of thing but these folks will die first before accepting blood or organs from donors.

I'm not gonna speak on religious fundis who spit out kids to the point where it's just irresponsible. I think we can all agree that kind of thing usually always takes place in an abusive cult environment whether its mormonism or the off shoots of Christianity like "quiverfull" and that its problematic as fuck and unhealthy. I mean that's where we get the Josh Duggars and all that mess.

I feel like this is a completely different convo because these families are pretty fringe. Healthy people will stop at a reasonable number of children and typically wont press on past that under some unhinged belief that God wants us spitting out babies like an ally cat. To the point where your uterus prolapses and your older kids are raising the younger kids. That's not a norm here at all. That's a fringe.

Andrea Yates was in that sort of fringe cult. So that played a huge part in that whole tragedy.


I just think that guy buggered off when the reality hit 'em as to what 10 children actually means and fills like.

BTw, my own father came from a Depression era family of 15 children by 1 father and mother.

All but one managed to live to adulthood.

I think it musta been a struggle growing up in that family.

My grandfather was a drunk who smoked heavily too, and one day they found him on a tractor in a field croaked before his 55th birthday.
 


Seems too extreme.

I thought new laws like they have in Texas would lead to this.


Ever heard of that case where this woman was hooked on meth, her and her husband....and she got pregnant, carried and killed 6 or 7 of her babies and put the bodies in the garage?

I think she was sentenced to life in prison. Was that extreme?

Are you aware that we are talking about ending a human life?


I remember there was a woman in Texas who did something like that. She was from some religious background. Respectable. A Nurse. Not ghetto. White. Had 5 kids. But her husband kept making her pregnant. She became depressed and unhinged then killed her kids. But if I remember correctly she was acquitted because of her mental state/condition.




There's also this issue of husbands who want their wives to be baby machines til they flip out like that. Cant they see when the wife has had it?


You way over simplified Andrea Yates. She had post partum psychosis and wasnt even fit to stand trial.

Her disgusting husband should have been charged with manslaughter for each childs death.

Most people do not do what Yates husband did, Joe. Her doctors were literally screaming at him that she needed immediate care and not to be alone with the kids.


Not that her husband was blameless, but I think he felt somewhat responsible for what happened afterwards.

I've often noticed that whenever a woman is expected to have too many children they become angry and resentful later in life. Especially towards their husbands. Sometimes they just can't handle it & go beserk like that.

Guy who does that to his wife risks putting her into an early grave.


He was literally 100 percent responsible because she was incompetent, and her doctors made this very clear and HE kept getting her pregnant and then leaving the children alone with her.

She was not connected to reality. She was a rare case of post partum psychosis. She had no idea what she was doing.....and the husband should have listened to the doctors. This woman should have been admitted into some inpatient care. Not left alone with children when she wasnt even fit to look after herself.

Its 100 percent his fault this happened.


I actally know a guy whom I believe impregnated his wife to death. She had 5 or 6 children by him until 1 day she finally croaked.

Thing is...he talked about her as if she was still alive. He was an instructor at a college who kept rambling on about his wife as if she was still here. "MY wife this, my wife that."

..and then one day he said to the entire class..." You know what? My wife is no longer here. SHE passed away."

He was clearly still grieving for her.

I think he quite literally Loved her to death.

He was evidently quite selfish and in the end paid the price with his loneliness.


I think your anti child bias is telling you her pregnancies killed her and that if she wasnt a mother she would be alive today.

And that likely her motherhood MAY have played a small part, if any, in her cause of death.

I know of women who died from abortion complications. Cervical lacerations, uterine perforation, post surg hemorrhage or pneumonia and other infections are real. As is a heightened risk of suicide and/or substance abuse.

But I can sympathize with the males pressing need to brainwash women into viewing the natural abilities of our awesome bodies as a form of slavery or a curse and instead have us perform for the sexual pleasure of men. Without any threat of long term commitment.

Oh wait no.....that was just gas.

Carry on.


No. I'm not saying that.

Just that fewer children would probably have been more fulfilling and more appropriate.
Like in the Andrea Yates case.

Why can't a woman be a good mother to 2 or 3 children instead of 5,6 or 10?

It's evident when too much is simply too much for a person to handle.

It's liek pouring water into a jug and it overflows.

Well...common sense would just say don't fill it past the brim otherwise the jug can't take any more water.

What I gleaned from his example is that sometimes a guy has to give a woman some breathing room to breathe.


The only person who can speak on that is the individual mother, Joe.

You have no idea what child beating and motherhood is like or how fulfilled or unfulfilled a mother is with the size of her brood.

Be careful here, Joe. You are doing more projecting than anything.


Actually I knew a Canadian womeh who married this guy in the States and he called himself a reformed Catholic. so when they got married, he siad it was his goal to have 10 children.

Subsequently, they had many children til they made it to 9.

Then one day he fell ill.

The doctors said he needed a blood transfusion.

But he refused on 'religious' grounds and later died leaving his wife with 9 children to raise.

Actually, I think it was more a case of the guy couldn't handle that many children.

I think when he died he wasn't even 40 or just barely that.

He probably realized the monstrosity he created as in "Dr. Frankenstein, I've created a Monster!"

so, the only way outta that was to die.

"Please doctor don't save me."

and so the story went. True story, I'm not making it up.

But that sorta thinking can also turn around and bite the author in the ass too.


Joe that religious conviction to reject blood transfusions is no joke. Those people are very serious.

It's weird to those of us who have no issue with that sort of thing but these folks will die first before accepting blood or organs from donors.

I'm not gonna speak on religious fundis who spit out kids to the point where it's just irresponsible. I think we can all agree that kind of thing usually always takes place in an abusive cult environment whether its mormonism or the off shoots of Christianity like "quiverfull" and that its problematic as fuck and unhealthy. I mean that's where we get the Josh Duggars and all that mess.

I feel like this is a completely different convo because these families are pretty fringe. Healthy people will stop at a reasonable number of children and typically wont press on past that under some unhinged belief that God wants us spitting out babies like an ally cat. To the point where your uterus prolapses and your older kids are raising the younger kids. That's not a norm here at all. That's a fringe.

Andrea Yates was in that sort of fringe cult. So that played a huge part in that whole tragedy.


I just think that guy buggered off when the reality hit 'em as to what 10 children actually means and fills like.

BTw, my own father came from a Depression era family of 15 children.

All but one managed to live to adulthood.

I think it musta been a struggle growing up in that family.


What the fuck happened? Tuberculosis?
 
Every little girls dream?

Find her a porn sick scrote who will dump her off at Planned Parenthood if she gets "oppressed" by her own body.

But gotdammit.....those men are HARD to find. Everywhere a woman turns she hears some Republican saying "Oh man! You are beautiful, miss. Let me court you and love and support you as a human being and build a family with you!" and that's oppressive as fuck! Like the 1950s!

Where are all the men willing to use and abuse me? It's real hard to find these days.
You misspoke there a bit. A males political party has nothing to do with whether he's a dog or not. They come in all shapes and sizes, across the board.

I was making fun of how bro choicers like Admin try to make Republican men out to be these honorable and loving family men and that pitiful attempt to sell the idea that men who wants families are oppressors while these left wing bro choice scrotes are liberating us from any pretenses of humanity.

So we can do sex work, porn, and engage in hook up culture and believe that's "liberation".
I see. Fair enough.
I'm new here, mind you.
Just trying to find my way.
LOL

Welcome ♡

Good luck getting any sort of clear and consistent responses from Admin.

His politcal stance is "right wing bad. Media good".....so its impossible for him to have any coherent interactions.

His premise is we all suck. So he only spews stuff that he thinks supports that premise. No matter how wrong it is.
Plus he’s a dripping pussy from Oregon where even the state leaders believe bois like him require tampons
Ohhhh, right. The nignog of Oregon, I remember now.
Black Lives Matter, yo.
In his case that would be Black Length Matters

he’s a real cock fiend
Thanks alot...
Threw up a bit in my throat.
So gross.
A lot of black cocks throw up in his mouth too. He seems to love it too
Please stop.
Hahaaaaaaaa
 


Seems too extreme.

I thought new laws like they have in Texas would lead to this.


Ever heard of that case where this woman was hooked on meth, her and her husband....and she got pregnant, carried and killed 6 or 7 of her babies and put the bodies in the garage?

I think she was sentenced to life in prison. Was that extreme?

Are you aware that we are talking about ending a human life?


I remember there was a woman in Texas who did something like that. She was from some religious background. Respectable. A Nurse. Not ghetto. White. Had 5 kids. But her husband kept making her pregnant. She became depressed and unhinged then killed her kids. But if I remember correctly she was acquitted because of her mental state/condition.




There's also this issue of husbands who want their wives to be baby machines til they flip out like that. Cant they see when the wife has had it?


You way over simplified Andrea Yates. She had post partum psychosis and wasnt even fit to stand trial.

Her disgusting husband should have been charged with manslaughter for each childs death.

Most people do not do what Yates husband did, Joe. Her doctors were literally screaming at him that she needed immediate care and not to be alone with the kids.


Not that her husband was blameless, but I think he felt somewhat responsible for what happened afterwards.

I've often noticed that whenever a woman is expected to have too many children they become angry and resentful later in life. Especially towards their husbands. Sometimes they just can't handle it & go beserk like that.

Guy who does that to his wife risks putting her into an early grave.


He was literally 100 percent responsible because she was incompetent, and her doctors made this very clear and HE kept getting her pregnant and then leaving the children alone with her.

She was not connected to reality. She was a rare case of post partum psychosis. She had no idea what she was doing.....and the husband should have listened to the doctors. This woman should have been admitted into some inpatient care. Not left alone with children when she wasnt even fit to look after herself.

Its 100 percent his fault this happened.


I actally know a guy whom I believe impregnated his wife to death. She had 5 or 6 children by him until 1 day she finally croaked.

Thing is...he talked about her as if she was still alive. He was an instructor at a college who kept rambling on about his wife as if she was still here. "MY wife this, my wife that."

..and then one day he said to the entire class..." You know what? My wife is no longer here. SHE passed away."

He was clearly still grieving for her.

I think he quite literally Loved her to death.

He was evidently quite selfish and in the end paid the price with his loneliness.


I think your anti child bias is telling you her pregnancies killed her and that if she wasnt a mother she would be alive today.

And that likely her motherhood MAY have played a small part, if any, in her cause of death.

I know of women who died from abortion complications. Cervical lacerations, uterine perforation, post surg hemorrhage or pneumonia and other infections are real. As is a heightened risk of suicide and/or substance abuse.

But I can sympathize with the males pressing need to brainwash women into viewing the natural abilities of our awesome bodies as a form of slavery or a curse and instead have us perform for the sexual pleasure of men. Without any threat of long term commitment.

Oh wait no.....that was just gas.

Carry on.


No. I'm not saying that.

Just that fewer children would probably have been more fulfilling and more appropriate.
Like in the Andrea Yates case.

Why can't a woman be a good mother to 2 or 3 children instead of 5,6 or 10?

It's evident when too much is simply too much for a person to handle.

It's liek pouring water into a jug and it overflows.

Well...common sense would just say don't fill it past the brim otherwise the jug can't take any more water.

What I gleaned from his example is that sometimes a guy has to give a woman some breathing room to breathe.


The only person who can speak on that is the individual mother, Joe.

You have no idea what child beating and motherhood is like or how fulfilled or unfulfilled a mother is with the size of her brood.

Be careful here, Joe. You are doing more projecting than anything.


Actually I knew a Canadian womeh who married this guy in the States and he called himself a reformed Catholic. so when they got married, he siad it was his goal to have 10 children.

Subsequently, they had many children til they made it to 9.

Then one day he fell ill.

The doctors said he needed a blood transfusion.

But he refused on 'religious' grounds and later died leaving his wife with 9 children to raise.

Actually, I think it was more a case of the guy couldn't handle that many children.

I think when he died he wasn't even 40 or just barely that.

He probably realized the monstrosity he created as in "Dr. Frankenstein, I've created a Monster!"

so, the only way outta that was to die.

"Please doctor don't save me."

and so the story went. True story, I'm not making it up.

But that sorta thinking can also turn around and bite the author in the ass too.


Joe that religious conviction to reject blood transfusions is no joke. Those people are very serious.

It's weird to those of us who have no issue with that sort of thing but these folks will die first before accepting blood or organs from donors.

I'm not gonna speak on religious fundis who spit out kids to the point where it's just irresponsible. I think we can all agree that kind of thing usually always takes place in an abusive cult environment whether its mormonism or the off shoots of Christianity like "quiverfull" and that its problematic as fuck and unhealthy. I mean that's where we get the Josh Duggars and all that mess.

I feel like this is a completely different convo because these families are pretty fringe. Healthy people will stop at a reasonable number of children and typically wont press on past that under some unhinged belief that God wants us spitting out babies like an ally cat. To the point where your uterus prolapses and your older kids are raising the younger kids. That's not a norm here at all. That's a fringe.

Andrea Yates was in that sort of fringe cult. So that played a huge part in that whole tragedy.


I just think that guy buggered off when the reality hit 'em as to what 10 children actually means and fills like.

BTw, my own father came from a Depression era family of 15 children.

All but one managed to live to adulthood.

I think it musta been a struggle growing up in that family.


What the fuck happened? Tuberculosis?


Not sure.

Just know that he refused a life saving blood transfusion.

and he died shortly afterwards.

I just think the didn't want to face up to what he had created.

He chose death because that was the most convenient way of escape for him.
 
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You bishes are AWESOME, lets keep the manufactured outrage and gnashing of tooth and wails of despair going, I want this thread to hit 100, before Jeopardy comes on.

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Every little girls dream?

Find her a porn sick scrote who will dump her off at Planned Parenthood if she gets "oppressed" by her own body.

But gotdammit.....those men are HARD to find. Everywhere a woman turns she hears some Republican saying "Oh man! You are beautiful, miss. Let me court you and love and support you as a human being and build a family with you!" and that's oppressive as fuck! Like the 1950s!

Where are all the men willing to use and abuse me? It's real hard to find these days.
You misspoke there a bit. A males political party has nothing to do with whether he's a dog or not. They come in all shapes and sizes, across the board.

I was making fun of how bro choicers like Admin try to make Republican men out to be these honorable and loving family men and that pitiful attempt to sell the idea that men who wants families are oppressors while these left wing bro choice scrotes are liberating us from any pretenses of humanity.

So we can do sex work, porn, and engage in hook up culture and believe that's "liberation".
I see. Fair enough.
I'm new here, mind you.
Just trying to find my way.
LOL

Welcome ♡

Good luck getting any sort of clear and consistent responses from Admin.

His politcal stance is "right wing bad. Media good".....so its impossible for him to have any coherent interactions.

His premise is we all suck. So he only spews stuff that he thinks supports that premise. No matter how wrong it is.
Plus he’s a dripping pussy from Oregon where even the state leaders believe bois like him require tampons
Ohhhh, right. The nignog of Oregon, I remember now.
Black Lives Matter, yo.
In his case that would be Black Length Matters

he’s a real cock fiend
Thanks alot...
Threw up a bit in my throat.
So gross.
A lot of black cocks throw up in his mouth too. He seems to love it too
Please stop.
Hahaaaaaaaa


God bless them. They were dead serious :LOL3:

When my kids found that, they really over played it lol.
 
You bishes are AWESOME, lets keep the manufactured outrage and gnashing of tooth and wails of despair going, I want this thread to hit 100, before Jeopardy comes on.

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Are you talking to US? Because we are the ones celebrating the over turning of this bad decision.

I know Norma MaCorveys spirit is smiling.
 


Seems too extreme.

I thought new laws like they have in Texas would lead to this.


Ever heard of that case where this woman was hooked on meth, her and her husband....and she got pregnant, carried and killed 6 or 7 of her babies and put the bodies in the garage?

I think she was sentenced to life in prison. Was that extreme?

Are you aware that we are talking about ending a human life?


I remember there was a woman in Texas who did something like that. She was from some religious background. Respectable. A Nurse. Not ghetto. White. Had 5 kids. But her husband kept making her pregnant. She became depressed and unhinged then killed her kids. But if I remember correctly she was acquitted because of her mental state/condition.




There's also this issue of husbands who want their wives to be baby machines til they flip out like that. Cant they see when the wife has had it?


You way over simplified Andrea Yates. She had post partum psychosis and wasnt even fit to stand trial.

Her disgusting husband should have been charged with manslaughter for each childs death.

Most people do not do what Yates husband did, Joe. Her doctors were literally screaming at him that she needed immediate care and not to be alone with the kids.


Not that her husband was blameless, but I think he felt somewhat responsible for what happened afterwards.

I've often noticed that whenever a woman is expected to have too many children they become angry and resentful later in life. Especially towards their husbands. Sometimes they just can't handle it & go beserk like that.

Guy who does that to his wife risks putting her into an early grave.


He was literally 100 percent responsible because she was incompetent, and her doctors made this very clear and HE kept getting her pregnant and then leaving the children alone with her.

She was not connected to reality. She was a rare case of post partum psychosis. She had no idea what she was doing.....and the husband should have listened to the doctors. This woman should have been admitted into some inpatient care. Not left alone with children when she wasnt even fit to look after herself.

Its 100 percent his fault this happened.


I actally know a guy whom I believe impregnated his wife to death. She had 5 or 6 children by him until 1 day she finally croaked.

Thing is...he talked about her as if she was still alive. He was an instructor at a college who kept rambling on about his wife as if she was still here. "MY wife this, my wife that."

..and then one day he said to the entire class..." You know what? My wife is no longer here. SHE passed away."

He was clearly still grieving for her.

I think he quite literally Loved her to death.

He was evidently quite selfish and in the end paid the price with his loneliness.


I think your anti child bias is telling you her pregnancies killed her and that if she wasnt a mother she would be alive today.

And that likely her motherhood MAY have played a small part, if any, in her cause of death.

I know of women who died from abortion complications. Cervical lacerations, uterine perforation, post surg hemorrhage or pneumonia and other infections are real. As is a heightened risk of suicide and/or substance abuse.

But I can sympathize with the males pressing need to brainwash women into viewing the natural abilities of our awesome bodies as a form of slavery or a curse and instead have us perform for the sexual pleasure of men. Without any threat of long term commitment.

Oh wait no.....that was just gas.

Carry on.


No. I'm not saying that.

Just that fewer children would probably have been more fulfilling and more appropriate.
Like in the Andrea Yates case.

Why can't a woman be a good mother to 2 or 3 children instead of 5,6 or 10?

It's evident when too much is simply too much for a person to handle.

It's liek pouring water into a jug and it overflows.

Well...common sense would just say don't fill it past the brim otherwise the jug can't take any more water.

What I gleaned from his example is that sometimes a guy has to give a woman some breathing room to breathe.


The only person who can speak on that is the individual mother, Joe.

You have no idea what child beating and motherhood is like or how fulfilled or unfulfilled a mother is with the size of her brood.

Be careful here, Joe. You are doing more projecting than anything.


Actually I knew a Canadian womeh who married this guy in the States and he called himself a reformed Catholic. so when they got married, he siad it was his goal to have 10 children.

Subsequently, they had many children til they made it to 9.

Then one day he fell ill.

The doctors said he needed a blood transfusion.

But he refused on 'religious' grounds and later died leaving his wife with 9 children to raise.

Actually, I think it was more a case of the guy couldn't handle that many children.

I think when he died he wasn't even 40 or just barely that.

He probably realized the monstrosity he created as in "Dr. Frankenstein, I've created a Monster!"

so, the only way outta that was to die.

"Please doctor don't save me."

and so the story went. True story, I'm not making it up.

But that sorta thinking can also turn around and bite the author in the ass too.


Joe that religious conviction to reject blood transfusions is no joke. Those people are very serious.

It's weird to those of us who have no issue with that sort of thing but these folks will die first before accepting blood or organs from donors.

I'm not gonna speak on religious fundis who spit out kids to the point where it's just irresponsible. I think we can all agree that kind of thing usually always takes place in an abusive cult environment whether its mormonism or the off shoots of Christianity like "quiverfull" and that its problematic as fuck and unhealthy. I mean that's where we get the Josh Duggars and all that mess.

I feel like this is a completely different convo because these families are pretty fringe. Healthy people will stop at a reasonable number of children and typically wont press on past that under some unhinged belief that God wants us spitting out babies like an ally cat. To the point where your uterus prolapses and your older kids are raising the younger kids. That's not a norm here at all. That's a fringe.

Andrea Yates was in that sort of fringe cult. So that played a huge part in that whole tragedy.


I just think that guy buggered off when the reality hit 'em as to what 10 children actually means and fills like.

BTw, my own father came from a Depression era family of 15 children.

All but one managed to live to adulthood.

I think it musta been a struggle growing up in that family.


What the fuck happened? Tuberculosis?


Not sure.

Just know that he refused a life saving blood transfusion.

and he died shortly afterwards.

I just think the didn't want to face up to what he had created.

He chose death because that was the most convenient way of escape for him.


Perhaps for him it was his genuine religious conviction to refuse the blood and you may he projecting your bad feelings of parenthood onto him?

It's okay to not want children, Joe. It's just that people of reproductive age need to take proactive responsibility of that.

Especailly women. We are the ones who carry the reproductive burden of the human species.
 


Seems too extreme.

I thought new laws like they have in Texas would lead to this.


Ever heard of that case where this woman was hooked on meth, her and her husband....and she got pregnant, carried and killed 6 or 7 of her babies and put the bodies in the garage?

I think she was sentenced to life in prison. Was that extreme?

Are you aware that we are talking about ending a human life?


I remember there was a woman in Texas who did something like that. She was from some religious background. Respectable. A Nurse. Not ghetto. White. Had 5 kids. But her husband kept making her pregnant. She became depressed and unhinged then killed her kids. But if I remember correctly she was acquitted because of her mental state/condition.




There's also this issue of husbands who want their wives to be baby machines til they flip out like that. Cant they see when the wife has had it?


You way over simplified Andrea Yates. She had post partum psychosis and wasnt even fit to stand trial.

Her disgusting husband should have been charged with manslaughter for each childs death.

Most people do not do what Yates husband did, Joe. Her doctors were literally screaming at him that she needed immediate care and not to be alone with the kids.


Not that her husband was blameless, but I think he felt somewhat responsible for what happened afterwards.

I've often noticed that whenever a woman is expected to have too many children they become angry and resentful later in life. Especially towards their husbands. Sometimes they just can't handle it & go beserk like that.

Guy who does that to his wife risks putting her into an early grave.


He was literally 100 percent responsible because she was incompetent, and her doctors made this very clear and HE kept getting her pregnant and then leaving the children alone with her.

She was not connected to reality. She was a rare case of post partum psychosis. She had no idea what she was doing.....and the husband should have listened to the doctors. This woman should have been admitted into some inpatient care. Not left alone with children when she wasnt even fit to look after herself.

Its 100 percent his fault this happened.


I actally know a guy whom I believe impregnated his wife to death. She had 5 or 6 children by him until 1 day she finally croaked.

Thing is...he talked about her as if she was still alive. He was an instructor at a college who kept rambling on about his wife as if she was still here. "MY wife this, my wife that."

..and then one day he said to the entire class..." You know what? My wife is no longer here. SHE passed away."

He was clearly still grieving for her.

I think he quite literally Loved her to death.

He was evidently quite selfish and in the end paid the price with his loneliness.


I think your anti child bias is telling you her pregnancies killed her and that if she wasnt a mother she would be alive today.

And that likely her motherhood MAY have played a small part, if any, in her cause of death.

I know of women who died from abortion complications. Cervical lacerations, uterine perforation, post surg hemorrhage or pneumonia and other infections are real. As is a heightened risk of suicide and/or substance abuse.

But I can sympathize with the males pressing need to brainwash women into viewing the natural abilities of our awesome bodies as a form of slavery or a curse and instead have us perform for the sexual pleasure of men. Without any threat of long term commitment.

Oh wait no.....that was just gas.

Carry on.


No. I'm not saying that.

Just that fewer children would probably have been more fulfilling and more appropriate.
Like in the Andrea Yates case.

Why can't a woman be a good mother to 2 or 3 children instead of 5,6 or 10?

It's evident when too much is simply too much for a person to handle.

It's liek pouring water into a jug and it overflows.

Well...common sense would just say don't fill it past the brim otherwise the jug can't take any more water.

What I gleaned from his example is that sometimes a guy has to give a woman some breathing room to breathe.


The only person who can speak on that is the individual mother, Joe.

You have no idea what child beating and motherhood is like or how fulfilled or unfulfilled a mother is with the size of her brood.

Be careful here, Joe. You are doing more projecting than anything.


Actually I knew a Canadian womeh who married this guy in the States and he called himself a reformed Catholic. so when they got married, he siad it was his goal to have 10 children.

Subsequently, they had many children til they made it to 9.

Then one day he fell ill.

The doctors said he needed a blood transfusion.

But he refused on 'religious' grounds and later died leaving his wife with 9 children to raise.

Actually, I think it was more a case of the guy couldn't handle that many children.

I think when he died he wasn't even 40 or just barely that.

He probably realized the monstrosity he created as in "Dr. Frankenstein, I've created a Monster!"

so, the only way outta that was to die.

"Please doctor don't save me."

and so the story went. True story, I'm not making it up.

But that sorta thinking can also turn around and bite the author in the ass too.


Joe that religious conviction to reject blood transfusions is no joke. Those people are very serious.

It's weird to those of us who have no issue with that sort of thing but these folks will die first before accepting blood or organs from donors.

I'm not gonna speak on religious fundis who spit out kids to the point where it's just irresponsible. I think we can all agree that kind of thing usually always takes place in an abusive cult environment whether its mormonism or the off shoots of Christianity like "quiverfull" and that its problematic as fuck and unhealthy. I mean that's where we get the Josh Duggars and all that mess.

I feel like this is a completely different convo because these families are pretty fringe. Healthy people will stop at a reasonable number of children and typically wont press on past that under some unhinged belief that God wants us spitting out babies like an ally cat. To the point where your uterus prolapses and your older kids are raising the younger kids. That's not a norm here at all. That's a fringe.

Andrea Yates was in that sort of fringe cult. So that played a huge part in that whole tragedy.


I just think that guy buggered off when the reality hit 'em as to what 10 children actually means and fills like.

BTw, my own father came from a Depression era family of 15 children.

All but one managed to live to adulthood.

I think it musta been a struggle growing up in that family.


What the fuck happened? Tuberculosis?


Not sure.

Just know that he refused a life saving blood transfusion.

and he died shortly afterwards.

I just think the didn't want to face up to what he had created.

He chose death because that was the most convenient way of escape for him.


Perhaps for him it was his genuine religious conviction to refuse the blood and you may he projecting your bad feelings of parenthood onto him?

It's okay to not want children, Joe. It's just that people of reproductive age need to take proactive responsibility of that.

Especailly women. We are the ones who carry the reproductive burden of the human species.


He seemed like a very self-centered, self-serving father intentionally leaving 9 children like that for his wife/widow to raise for which death was an easy way to walk away from his responsibilities.He took the easy way out.

He left his wife holding the bag.
He was not a good guy. Douche bag extraodinaire.

If it was me, and those were my children, and I could be saved, I'd try to stick around to raise them as many other men would.

that's just how I see it tho.
 


Seems too extreme.

I thought new laws like they have in Texas would lead to this.


Ever heard of that case where this woman was hooked on meth, her and her husband....and she got pregnant, carried and killed 6 or 7 of her babies and put the bodies in the garage?

I think she was sentenced to life in prison. Was that extreme?

Are you aware that we are talking about ending a human life?


I remember there was a woman in Texas who did something like that. She was from some religious background. Respectable. A Nurse. Not ghetto. White. Had 5 kids. But her husband kept making her pregnant. She became depressed and unhinged then killed her kids. But if I remember correctly she was acquitted because of her mental state/condition.




There's also this issue of husbands who want their wives to be baby machines til they flip out like that. Cant they see when the wife has had it?


You way over simplified Andrea Yates. She had post partum psychosis and wasnt even fit to stand trial.

Her disgusting husband should have been charged with manslaughter for each childs death.

Most people do not do what Yates husband did, Joe. Her doctors were literally screaming at him that she needed immediate care and not to be alone with the kids.


Not that her husband was blameless, but I think he felt somewhat responsible for what happened afterwards.

I've often noticed that whenever a woman is expected to have too many children they become angry and resentful later in life. Especially towards their husbands. Sometimes they just can't handle it & go beserk like that.

Guy who does that to his wife risks putting her into an early grave.


He was literally 100 percent responsible because she was incompetent, and her doctors made this very clear and HE kept getting her pregnant and then leaving the children alone with her.

She was not connected to reality. She was a rare case of post partum psychosis. She had no idea what she was doing.....and the husband should have listened to the doctors. This woman should have been admitted into some inpatient care. Not left alone with children when she wasnt even fit to look after herself.

Its 100 percent his fault this happened.


I actally know a guy whom I believe impregnated his wife to death. She had 5 or 6 children by him until 1 day she finally croaked.

Thing is...he talked about her as if she was still alive. He was an instructor at a college who kept rambling on about his wife as if she was still here. "MY wife this, my wife that."

..and then one day he said to the entire class..." You know what? My wife is no longer here. SHE passed away."

He was clearly still grieving for her.

I think he quite literally Loved her to death.

He was evidently quite selfish and in the end paid the price with his loneliness.


I think your anti child bias is telling you her pregnancies killed her and that if she wasnt a mother she would be alive today.

And that likely her motherhood MAY have played a small part, if any, in her cause of death.

I know of women who died from abortion complications. Cervical lacerations, uterine perforation, post surg hemorrhage or pneumonia and other infections are real. As is a heightened risk of suicide and/or substance abuse.

But I can sympathize with the males pressing need to brainwash women into viewing the natural abilities of our awesome bodies as a form of slavery or a curse and instead have us perform for the sexual pleasure of men. Without any threat of long term commitment.

Oh wait no.....that was just gas.

Carry on.


No. I'm not saying that.

Just that fewer children would probably have been more fulfilling and more appropriate.
Like in the Andrea Yates case.

Why can't a woman be a good mother to 2 or 3 children instead of 5,6 or 10?

It's evident when too much is simply too much for a person to handle.

It's liek pouring water into a jug and it overflows.

Well...common sense would just say don't fill it past the brim otherwise the jug can't take any more water.

What I gleaned from his example is that sometimes a guy has to give a woman some breathing room to breathe.


The only person who can speak on that is the individual mother, Joe.

You have no idea what child beating and motherhood is like or how fulfilled or unfulfilled a mother is with the size of her brood.

Be careful here, Joe. You are doing more projecting than anything.


Actually I knew a Canadian womeh who married this guy in the States and he called himself a reformed Catholic. so when they got married, he siad it was his goal to have 10 children.

Subsequently, they had many children til they made it to 9.

Then one day he fell ill.

The doctors said he needed a blood transfusion.

But he refused on 'religious' grounds and later died leaving his wife with 9 children to raise.

Actually, I think it was more a case of the guy couldn't handle that many children.

I think when he died he wasn't even 40 or just barely that.

He probably realized the monstrosity he created as in "Dr. Frankenstein, I've created a Monster!"

so, the only way outta that was to die.

"Please doctor don't save me."

and so the story went. True story, I'm not making it up.

But that sorta thinking can also turn around and bite the author in the ass too.


Joe that religious conviction to reject blood transfusions is no joke. Those people are very serious.

It's weird to those of us who have no issue with that sort of thing but these folks will die first before accepting blood or organs from donors.

I'm not gonna speak on religious fundis who spit out kids to the point where it's just irresponsible. I think we can all agree that kind of thing usually always takes place in an abusive cult environment whether its mormonism or the off shoots of Christianity like "quiverfull" and that its problematic as fuck and unhealthy. I mean that's where we get the Josh Duggars and all that mess.

I feel like this is a completely different convo because these families are pretty fringe. Healthy people will stop at a reasonable number of children and typically wont press on past that under some unhinged belief that God wants us spitting out babies like an ally cat. To the point where your uterus prolapses and your older kids are raising the younger kids. That's not a norm here at all. That's a fringe.

Andrea Yates was in that sort of fringe cult. So that played a huge part in that whole tragedy.


I just think that guy buggered off when the reality hit 'em as to what 10 children actually means and fills like.

BTw, my own father came from a Depression era family of 15 children.

All but one managed to live to adulthood.

I think it musta been a struggle growing up in that family.


What the fuck happened? Tuberculosis?


Not sure.

Just know that he refused a life saving blood transfusion.

and he died shortly afterwards.

I just think the didn't want to face up to what he had created.

He chose death because that was the most convenient way of escape for him.


Perhaps for him it was his genuine religious conviction to refuse the blood and you may he projecting your bad feelings of parenthood onto him?

It's okay to not want children, Joe. It's just that people of reproductive age need to take proactive responsibility of that.

Especailly women. We are the ones who carry the reproductive burden of the human species.


He seemed like a very self-centered, self-serving father intentionally leaving 9 children like that for his wife/widow to raise for which death was an easy way to walk away from his responsibilities.He took the easy way out.

He left his wife holding the bag.

If it was me, and those were my children, I'd try to stick around to raise them as many other men would.

that's just how I see it tho.


They probably saw it as a brave and sacrificial act to show their children devotion to God, though.

People who view receiving transfusions and transplants as against God and nature view getting them as cowardly and selfish acts.

It's a completely different perspective, is all. I'm not saying I agree with them or you. I'm just telling you that often people have their own reasons and views for doing things or refusing things. It's easy to stand on the outside and finger wag.

If the only one they harm is themselves, leave them be. If they are medically neglecting and harming children than there is a good case to intervene.

I believe individuals should make all their own decisions for their own bodies and that liberty ends where another body begins.
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?

first you would have to believe that a bunch of men gave an actual depiction of what Jesus was doing…

men are proven liars.
 
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It's funny how people can be so ignorant on something and make comments rooted in that ignorance they find clever.

Man I really used to think the best of people. That everyone just wants peace and is willing to sort out differences and misunderstandings and are open minded to understanding others. You know fostering peace and excercising real tolerance and wanting what's best for people.

Dems/progs really beat that out of me. Ive never really seen people so determined to hate other people as these people are. I never thought people would ever be willing to look past so much harm being done just because they hate their political opposition.

When the common goal is peace and prosperity and preserving the individual rights and liberties of human beings we enjoy here....differences can be worked past.

But we dont have that shared goal. Dems/progs want to break and destroy the country. They view other Americans as enemies. Their goal ie deeer destroy opposition and "dismantle" the foundations of the country. They are willing to lie, tolerate violence, look past rape and assault. They dont want to find common grounds or think of anything differently. They want their way and their way is whatever the elites want. They will believe whatever bullshit they need to in order to justify their hatred of everyone outside their partisan cult.

The country is just fucked.
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?

first you would have to believe that a bunch of men gave an actual depiction of what Jesus was actually doing…

men are proven liars.
If they were trans their accounts would have been so much more reliable amirite ?
 
It's funny how people can be so ignorant on something and make comments rooted in that ignorance they find clever.

Man I really used to think the best of people. That everyone just wants peace and is willing to sort out differences and misunderstandings and are open minded to understanding others. You know fostering peace and excercising real tolerance and wanting what's best for people.

Dems/progs really beat that out of me. Ive never really seen people so determined to hate other people as these people are. I never thought people would ever be willing to look past so much harm being done just because they hate their political opposition.

When the common goal is peace and prosperity and preserving the individual rights and liberties of human beings we enjoy here....differences can be worked past.

But we dont have that shared goal. Dems/progs want to break and destroy the country. They view other Americans as enemies. Their goal ie deeer destroy opposition and "dismantle" the foundations of the country. They are willing to lie, tolerate violence, look past rape and assault. They dont want to find common grounds or think of anything differently. They want their way and their way is whatever the elites want. They will believe whatever bullshit they need to in order to justify their hatred of everyone outside their partisan cult.

The country is just fucked.
Have your Admin. type out a Precis' of the key points, Thank you.
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?

first you would have to believe that a bunch of men gave an actual depiction of what Jesus was doing…

men are proven liars.

That's rather sexist of you....
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?

first you would have to believe that a bunch of men gave an actual depiction of what Jesus was doing…

men are proven liars.

That's rather sexist of you....
prove her statement factually incorrect
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?

first you would have to believe that a bunch of men gave an actual depiction of what Jesus was doing…

men are proven liars.

That's rather sexist of you....
prove her statement factually incorrect

Humans lie.... her statement only deals with one of the two biological genders.
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?

first you would have to believe that a bunch of men gave an actual depiction of what Jesus was doing…

men are proven liars.

That's rather sexist of you....
prove her statement factually incorrect

Humans lie.... her statement only deals with one of the two biological genders.
Wish of the 3 do you identrify with?
 
Let’s take the Mormons for instance… they are historically the raw doggie pervy pervs of the secular bunch… their Bible includes polygamy and the practice involves marriage to underage girls who are often forced into these unions via rape.

Coincidence? I think not…. Men and their egos are to blame here. This has nothing to do with God.
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?

first you would have to believe that a bunch of men gave an actual depiction of what Jesus was doing…

men are proven liars.

That's rather sexist of you....
prove her statement factually incorrect

So, you agree men are proven liars and the bible is bullshit because men wrote it. Correct?

But you think men should be able to say they are women and be allowed into womens single sex spaces like prison cells and domestic violence shelters and that women should just tolerate the rape and assault we are now extra vulnerable to because our place in society as a protected class is now being removed. So men can "identify" as women.

So we are to believe the bible is lies because men wrote it and men are proven liars.

But they are not liars when they claim they are women so they can have access to womens spaces. And sports. And awards. We have to accept this and hand over our sex based rights. Even though you both say men are proven liars. Even though men commit the vast majority of violent crime against women.

How does that work exactly?
 
I'm going with Louisiana.

Texas.
(Psst, I knowed dat sista, I was just tryna get these niggas ta tink!)

Wait, you actually expect the knuckle dragging neanderthals to think? Well, that’s your first mistake… they support punishing human garbage by forcing it into motherhood as the Republitard solution to a failing economy and looming food shortage crisis. Not the sharpest tools in the shed these few.
Wasn't it Jesus himself who whipped and beat the poor people out of the Banks and Corporate Farms, and Single Family Housing Unit Scalping Investment HQ's ???? Well Wasn't it?

first you would have to believe that a bunch of men gave an actual depiction of what Jesus was doing…

men are proven liars.

That's rather sexist of you....
prove her statement factually incorrect

Humans lie.... her statement only deals with one of the two biological genders.
Wish of the 3 do you identrify with?

There are only two genders.