Lib "doctors" claim fetal heartbeats don't exist now

[Biggie Smiles]

But but if you don’t let some loser bitch murder her child the child will group up unwanted


right: so can we just get rid of all the loser bitches now so that the problem is solved in its entirety?

 

[Lokmar]

Too bad you selfish cunts didnt cooperate and stand against partial birth abortion. Now you can either use a funnel in your vagina to spit that blowjob cum in your pussy or go to the gas chamber!

We would have fought anyway.

No doubt, but they still look unreasonable. Had you not had 40 years of fully developed babies all ripped apart in buckets, you wouldnt have gotten nearly as much traction. Thats just a simple fact!

 

[Lokmar]

But but if you don’t let some loser bitch murder her child the child will group up unwanted


right: so can we just get rid of all the loser bitches now so that the problem is solved in its entirety?

Sounds legit!

 

[Biggie Smiles]

What’s it? Oregon that allows abortions up until puberty

or am Iconfusing that with their age consent law?

 

[Dove]

But but if you don’t let some loser bitch murder her child the child will group up unwanted


right: so can we just get rid of all the loser bitches now so that the problem is solved in its entirety?

It's like they think if THEY ignore all the medical science advancements made since Roe where we know SO much more about life in the womb....than that makes their arguments solid.

Just dark age violence really. Regressive science denying bullshit because they think women are dumb garbage that cant be responsible. They dont want to move into a educated compassionate future.

 

[Dove]

Too bad you selfish cunts didnt cooperate and stand against partial birth abortion. Now you can either use a funnel in your vagina to spit that blowjob cum in your pussy or go to the gas chamber!

We would have fought anyway.

No doubt, but they still look unreasonable. Had you not had 40 years of fully developed babies all ripped apart in buckets, you wouldnt have gotten nearly as much traction. Thats just a simple fact!

They dont look just "unreasonable" they are flat out against progress.

You know abortion groups fight basic safety regulations and medical advancements and services like perinatal hospice that hurt the political abortion narrative?

Once again they fight for exploitive trash to make money off of vulnerable people by distorting truth and pushing their precious dark age narratives. While ruining sex based rights for women so we can sacrifice MORE to validate and make mens lives easier.

 

[Dove]

What’s it? Oregon that allows abortions up until puberty

or am Iconfusing that with their age consent law?

You can brutally kill a baby during labor in Oregon.

And CA. Its 3rd world shit. Their whole states are 3rd world.

 

[Dove]

Pro life men

You know what's misogynist? The very fact that 73% of abortions are the result of coercion by men.

You know what's misogynist? The dad who is afraid his newly pregnant teen will tarnish his good family image, so he escorts her to have her child dismembered inside of her.

You know what's misogynist? Men who take a step back and say "it's completely up to you", effectively dropping ALL the weight of their decision onto her.

You know what's misogynist? The Planned Parenthood abortion facility in Austin, TX, encouraging a woman to obtain a late-term abortion if it was confirmed that the baby she was carrying was a girl, rather than the boy she wanted. Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen estimated that as early as 1990, approximately 100 million women were missing worldwide due to sex-selective abortion, female infanticide, and other such barbaric practices.

Born men have absolutely nothing to gain from a pro-life stance (except accountability and responsibility).

#men #realmen #protect #realmenprotect
#realmenprotectlife #realmenareprolife #prolife
#prolifemen #trafficking #stopcontrollingwomen
#stopcontrollingwomensbodies #prolove #misogyny #realmisogyny #holdmenaccountable

Bro choicers ARE abusers.

 

[LotusBud]

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Just like gender, the only reality is what libs say it is.

Here's a FACT for you libs, from the moment of conception a baby has a soul, given by God uniquely to every individual human being. That life is not yours to take.

@Dove see? did I not state in that other thread they would find a path that involved challenging the heartbeat?

I so it begins

The language in this bill is simply not strong enough to prevail consistently in a court of law.

It hasnt begun.

This is 2 abortionists playing Orwell games when the bill addresses "cardiac activity". That's the article.

They cant use this. Its propaganda

Well the whole thing is propaganda. There is no rational or reasonable argument for why abortion can be legal. So the left resorts to semantics.

There are plenty of rational reasons for why abortion is and should remain legal. I mentioned them. It has nothing to do with when a heartbeat can be detected. It has to do with WILL the eventual child, the actual born human, be cared for and loved and raised well, or will it live a life of misery and suffering? There are too many people in the world already, and there is too much suffering. There is no good reason to force babies to enter a world just to suffer. How selfish and utterly heartless that is.

 

[LotusBud]

Pro life men

You know what's misogynist? The very fact that 73% of abortions are the result of coercion by men.

You know what's misogynist? The dad who is afraid his newly pregnant teen will tarnish his good family image, so he escorts her to have her child dismembered inside of her.

You know what's misogynist? Men who take a step back and say "it's completely up to you", effectively dropping ALL the weight of their decision onto her.

You know what's misogynist? The Planned Parenthood abortion facility in Austin, TX, encouraging a woman to obtain a late-term abortion if it was confirmed that the baby she was carrying was a girl, rather than the boy she wanted. Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen estimated that as early as 1990, approximately 100 million women were missing worldwide due to sex-selective abortion, female infanticide, and other such barbaric practices.

Born men have absolutely nothing to gain from a pro-life stance (except accountability and responsibility).

#men #realmen #protect #realmenprotect
#realmenprotectlife #realmenareprolife #prolife
#prolifemen #trafficking #stopcontrollingwomen
#stopcontrollingwomensbodies #prolove #misogyny #realmisogyny #holdmenaccountable

Bro choicers ARE abusers.

Bullshit. You use all those fantastical stories as excuses to avoid looking at what you yourself are doing. You are asking for laws that literally enslave women and bring children into a life of misery. All because you are upset about your own bad choices.

YOU are trying to control women's bodies, and women's and children's lives.

You do not care about born children.

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

 

[Dove]

 

[Dove]

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Just like gender, the only reality is what libs say it is.

Here's a FACT for you libs, from the moment of conception a baby has a soul, given by God uniquely to every individual human being. That life is not yours to take.

@Dove see? did I not state in that other thread they would find a path that involved challenging the heartbeat?

I so it begins

The language in this bill is simply not strong enough to prevail consistently in a court of law.

It hasnt begun.

This is 2 abortionists playing Orwell games when the bill addresses "cardiac activity". That's the article.

They cant use this. Its propaganda

Well the whole thing is propaganda. There is no rational or reasonable argument for why abortion can be legal. So the left resorts to semantics.

There are plenty of rational reasons for why abortion is and should remain legal. I mentioned them. It has nothing to do with when a heartbeat can be detected. It has to do with WILL the eventual child, the actual born human, be cared for and loved and raised well, or will it live a life of misery and suffering? There are too many people in the world already, and there is too much suffering. There is no good reason to force babies to enter a world just to suffer. How selfish and utterly heartless that is.

Your points have been answered MANY times.

And its heartless to assume someone will "suffer" and kill them.

Again you are not at listening to anything and you are just repeating left wing talking points. It's a fallacy to assume that if these women received help and were not aborting, that they would abuse and neglect their kids.

Abortion hasnt solved suffering. It's only ADDED to suffering.

 

[Dove]

Pro life men

You know what's misogynist? The very fact that 73% of abortions are the result of coercion by men.

You know what's misogynist? The dad who is afraid his newly pregnant teen will tarnish his good family image, so he escorts her to have her child dismembered inside of her.

You know what's misogynist? Men who take a step back and say "it's completely up to you", effectively dropping ALL the weight of their decision onto her.

You know what's misogynist? The Planned Parenthood abortion facility in Austin, TX, encouraging a woman to obtain a late-term abortion if it was confirmed that the baby she was carrying was a girl, rather than the boy she wanted. Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen estimated that as early as 1990, approximately 100 million women were missing worldwide due to sex-selective abortion, female infanticide, and other such barbaric practices.

Born men have absolutely nothing to gain from a pro-life stance (except accountability and responsibility).

#men #realmen #protect #realmenprotect
#realmenprotectlife #realmenareprolife #prolife
#prolifemen #trafficking #stopcontrollingwomen
#stopcontrollingwomensbodies #prolove #misogyny #realmisogyny #holdmenaccountable

Bro choicers ARE abusers.

Bullshit. You use all those fantastical stories as excuses to avoid looking at what you yourself are doing. You are asking for laws that literally enslave women and bring children into a life of misery. All because you are upset about your own bad choices.

YOU are trying to control women's bodies, and women's and children's lives.

You do not care about born children.

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

You are completely unable to use logic.

Right so you are saying women are enslaved if we cant kill our children. Right?

How AWEFUL that we are women. Our bodies and children are enslavement.

That's the misogynistic shit you are serving. . .when in reality abortion enslaves.

Its laws that STOP the LEGAL KILLING of HUMANS. PERIOD. Do you know how many people rightly dont buy the cult narrative you are selling here?

Address the arguments. I'm immune to this misogynistic hysteria....it doesnt work.

You are saying unless we can legally kill humans we are enslaved and I literally spit on that rhetotic. I completely reject it. I'm not the only one either.........try again. Something besides leftwing propaganda please.

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

 

[Dove]

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

It's incrediblevhow they amp up the hysterical and irrational propaganda.

 

[LotusBud]

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

Nope.

 

[LotusBud]

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

It's incrediblevhow they amp up the hysterical and irrational propaganda.

Says the one who posts a pic of a near full-term aborted fetus (something no one here has advocated) in a thread about aborting zygotes. That is the epitome of gaslighting hysteria. Give me a break with this. You need to get the fuck out of other women's lives unless they have ASKED you to help them find a way to keep their fetus. Otherwise, you're just being a fascist. If you don't want any more abortions, don't get them. Leave other women alone.

 

[LotusBud]

Pro life men

You know what's misogynist? The very fact that 73% of abortions are the result of coercion by men.

You know what's misogynist? The dad who is afraid his newly pregnant teen will tarnish his good family image, so he escorts her to have her child dismembered inside of her.

You know what's misogynist? Men who take a step back and say "it's completely up to you", effectively dropping ALL the weight of their decision onto her.

You know what's misogynist? The Planned Parenthood abortion facility in Austin, TX, encouraging a woman to obtain a late-term abortion if it was confirmed that the baby she was carrying was a girl, rather than the boy she wanted. Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen estimated that as early as 1990, approximately 100 million women were missing worldwide due to sex-selective abortion, female infanticide, and other such barbaric practices.

Born men have absolutely nothing to gain from a pro-life stance (except accountability and responsibility).

#men #realmen #protect #realmenprotect
#realmenprotectlife #realmenareprolife #prolife
#prolifemen #trafficking #stopcontrollingwomen
#stopcontrollingwomensbodies #prolove #misogyny #realmisogyny #holdmenaccountable

Bro choicers ARE abusers.

Bullshit. You use all those fantastical stories as excuses to avoid looking at what you yourself are doing. You are asking for laws that literally enslave women and bring children into a life of misery. All because you are upset about your own bad choices.

YOU are trying to control women's bodies, and women's and children's lives.

You do not care about born children.

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

You are completely unable to use logic.

Right so you are saying women are enslaved if we cant kill our children. Right?

How AWEFUL that we are women. Our bodies and children are enslavement.

That's the misogynistic shit you are serving. . .when in reality abortion enslaves.

Its laws that STOP the LEGAL KILLING of HUMANS. PERIOD. Do you know how many people rightly dont buy the cult narrative you are selling here?

Address the arguments. I'm immune to this misogynistic hysteria....it doesnt work.

You are saying unless we can legally kill humans we are enslaved and I literally spit on that rhetotic. I completely reject it. I'm not the only one either.........try again. Something besides leftwing propaganda please.

I didn't say any of that, fantasist.

I said women who are FORCED to have children they cannot care for are enslaved. I literally spit on the way you twist my words and meanings to fit some sort of hysterical agenda you want to force on others due to your own guilt.

Don't believe in abortion? Don't get one.

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

Nope.

Fine then Pro-"Choicers" are child killers

 

[Lokmar]

Even while these retards are losing the war, they STILL refuse to stop all abortions after 4 or 5 months. Reap it, assholes!

 

[LotusBud]

A zygote is not a child. Children who die of hunger, from lack of medical care, during immigration detention, of suicide, or as the result of abuse, ARE, however, children. YOU are child killers.

Actual checkmate, as opposed to fantasy checkmate.

 

[Lokmar]

A zygote is not a child. Children who die of hunger, from lack of medical care, during immigration detention, of suicide, or as the result of abuse, ARE, however, children. YOU are child killers.

Actual checkmate, as opposed to fantasy checkmate.

Idiot, 5 month pregnancies result in surviving babies all the time. In America, we offer 100% free food and healthcare to 100% of children at 400% above poverty. Children in detention for illegal immigration are very well taken care of especially in comparison to what they have in their own countries. When we compare the numbers, YOU people are on the same level as Stalin.

 

[Dove]

A zygote is not a child. Children who die of hunger, from lack of medical care, during immigration detention, of suicide, or as the result of abuse, ARE, however, children. YOU are child killers.

Actual checkmate, as opposed to fantasy checkmate.

This argument requires women to be uneducated about abortion, you know that?

A zygote is not a child. The same way a child is not an adult. "Zygote", "child", "adult" are TERMS for a stage of human development.

According the EVERY source, most abortions all occur in the fetal stage of human development. ....not the zygote one.

So Lotus, be honest, if I were pregnant and 11 weeks along....and considering abortion....and worried about human development, would tell me my "zygote wasnt a child"?

Do you guys have any idea how redundant that sounds to educated people? "An adult is not a senior".

Do you see the issue here? You say things that are misleading and false to support what you think women should do.

Btw people are not trying to legally kill those other humans you are using to reflect with. Many people help them as well.. ..but again abortion doesn't stop that shit from happening and it wouldnt "get worse" if we treated human life with more respect.

Do you help any of these kids or do you just point at them when you pretend abortion only kills things called "zygotes"?

People know zygote is a term for a stage of development and not a species. And... zygotes are never aborted. Most people don't even know they are pregnant until AFTER the zygote stage. The misleading and dishonest language and nonstop manipulation used should tell you, you are supporting the wrong thing.

Because anything medical or surgical should NEVER involve partisan politics. Women aborting with false or bad info are not making their choice, they are making your choice. You guys talk so much shit about "choice" here but you dont get that people need accurate information upon which to chose or they are not making their own choice, they are being manipulated.

 

[Dove]

Pro life men

You know what's misogynist? The very fact that 73% of abortions are the result of coercion by men.

You know what's misogynist? The dad who is afraid his newly pregnant teen will tarnish his good family image, so he escorts her to have her child dismembered inside of her.

You know what's misogynist? Men who take a step back and say "it's completely up to you", effectively dropping ALL the weight of their decision onto her.

You know what's misogynist? The Planned Parenthood abortion facility in Austin, TX, encouraging a woman to obtain a late-term abortion if it was confirmed that the baby she was carrying was a girl, rather than the boy she wanted. Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen estimated that as early as 1990, approximately 100 million women were missing worldwide due to sex-selective abortion, female infanticide, and other such barbaric practices.

Born men have absolutely nothing to gain from a pro-life stance (except accountability and responsibility).

#men #realmen #protect #realmenprotect
#realmenprotectlife #realmenareprolife #prolife
#prolifemen #trafficking #stopcontrollingwomen
#stopcontrollingwomensbodies #prolove #misogyny #realmisogyny #holdmenaccountable

Bro choicers ARE abusers.

Bullshit. You use all those fantastical stories as excuses to avoid looking at what you yourself are doing. You are asking for laws that literally enslave women and bring children into a life of misery. All because you are upset about your own bad choices.

YOU are trying to control women's bodies, and women's and children's lives.

You do not care about born children.

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

You are completely unable to use logic.

Right so you are saying women are enslaved if we cant kill our children. Right?

How AWEFUL that we are women. Our bodies and children are enslavement.

That's the misogynistic shit you are serving. . .when in reality abortion enslaves.

Its laws that STOP the LEGAL KILLING of HUMANS. PERIOD. Do you know how many people rightly dont buy the cult narrative you are selling here?

Address the arguments. I'm immune to this misogynistic hysteria....it doesnt work.

You are saying unless we can legally kill humans we are enslaved and I literally spit on that rhetotic. I completely reject it. I'm not the only one either.........try again. Something besides leftwing propaganda please.

Don't believe in abortion? Don't get one.

I dont "believe in" anything. I KNOW facts. Its awesome over the past 50 years we have advanced so much medically that no one needs to go on "beliefs" about pregnancy and human development. There is no room for "beliefs" here.

And if a woman doesnt want to give birth, she shouldnt get pregnant.

Dont believe in theft? Dont steal. Dont believe in PLEASE ASS BOX ME!? Dont molest children. Dont believe in slavery, dont buy slaves.

All these propaganda phrases you guys use and have been using for decades have been shredded over and over.

They do not hold against facts or scrutiny.

Maybe consider updating your position on this to reflect 2021 and all the knowledge we now have, instead of repeating thought stopper mantras that were born out of ignorance decades ago.

They dont work anymore. Its anti woman to push bad and false information about life in the womb and use manipulate and misleading phrases to defend a billion dollar industry that exploits and uses vulnerable women to continue making money.

 

[Lokmar]

Hell, if we just executed every baby born to a family making less than $70K/yr, kids wouldnt need adopting and nobodies kid would starve in America!!!!!....Oh yea, and America would be whiter! OMG!!!!

 

[LotusBud]

A zygote is not a child. Children who die of hunger, from lack of medical care, during immigration detention, of suicide, or as the result of abuse, ARE, however, children. YOU are child killers.

Actual checkmate, as opposed to fantasy checkmate.

Idiot, 5 month pregnancies result in surviving babies all the time. In America, we offer 100% free food and healthcare to 100% of children at 400% above poverty. Children in detention for illegal immigration are very well taken care of especially in comparison to what they have in their own countries. When we compare the numbers, YOU people are on the same level as Stalin.

Who the fuck here is advocating for 5-month abortions? Who? There are quite a few weeks to spare between 6 and 20.

 

[deport_liberals]

A zygote is not a child. Children who die of hunger, from lack of medical care, during immigration detention, of suicide, or as the result of abuse, ARE, however, children. YOU are child killers.

Actual checkmate, as opposed to fantasy checkmate.

Idiot, 5 month pregnancies result in surviving babies all the time. In America, we offer 100% free food and healthcare to 100% of children at 400% above poverty. Children in detention for illegal immigration are very well taken care of especially in comparison to what they have in their own countries. When we compare the numbers, YOU people are on the same level as Stalin.

Who the fuck here is advocating for 5-month abortions? Who? There are quite a few weeks to spare between 6 and 20.

Well, where should the line be drawn?

 

[LotusBud]

Pro life men

You know what's misogynist? The very fact that 73% of abortions are the result of coercion by men.

You know what's misogynist? The dad who is afraid his newly pregnant teen will tarnish his good family image, so he escorts her to have her child dismembered inside of her.

You know what's misogynist? Men who take a step back and say "it's completely up to you", effectively dropping ALL the weight of their decision onto her.

You know what's misogynist? The Planned Parenthood abortion facility in Austin, TX, encouraging a woman to obtain a late-term abortion if it was confirmed that the baby she was carrying was a girl, rather than the boy she wanted. Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen estimated that as early as 1990, approximately 100 million women were missing worldwide due to sex-selective abortion, female infanticide, and other such barbaric practices.

Born men have absolutely nothing to gain from a pro-life stance (except accountability and responsibility).

#men #realmen #protect #realmenprotect
#realmenprotectlife #realmenareprolife #prolife
#prolifemen #trafficking #stopcontrollingwomen
#stopcontrollingwomensbodies #prolove #misogyny #realmisogyny #holdmenaccountable

Bro choicers ARE abusers.

Bullshit. You use all those fantastical stories as excuses to avoid looking at what you yourself are doing. You are asking for laws that literally enslave women and bring children into a life of misery. All because you are upset about your own bad choices.

YOU are trying to control women's bodies, and women's and children's lives.

You do not care about born children.

Pro-"lifers" are child abusers.

You are completely unable to use logic.

Right so you are saying women are enslaved if we cant kill our children. Right?

How AWEFUL that we are women. Our bodies and children are enslavement.

That's the misogynistic shit you are serving. . .when in reality abortion enslaves.

Its laws that STOP the LEGAL KILLING of HUMANS. PERIOD. Do you know how many people rightly dont buy the cult narrative you are selling here?

Address the arguments. I'm immune to this misogynistic hysteria....it doesnt work.

You are saying unless we can legally kill humans we are enslaved and I literally spit on that rhetotic. I completely reject it. I'm not the only one either.........try again. Something besides leftwing propaganda please.

Don't believe in abortion? Don't get one.

I dont "believe in" anything. I KNOW facts. Its awesome over the past 50 years we have advanced so much medically that no one needs to go on "beliefs" about pregnancy and human development. There is no room for "beliefs" here.

And if a woman doesnt want to give birth, she shouldnt get pregnant.

Dont believe in theft? Dont steal. Dont believe in PLEASE ASS BOX ME!? Dont molest children. Dont believe in slavery, dont buy slaves.

All these propaganda phrases you guys use and have been using for decades have been shredded over and over.

They do not hold against facts or scrutiny.

Maybe consider updating your position on this to reflect 2021 and all the knowledge we now have, instead of repeating thought stopper mantras that were born out of ignorance decades ago.

They dont work anymore. Its anti woman to push bad and false information about life in the womb and use manipulate and misleading phrases to defend a billion dollar industry that exploits and uses vulnerable women to continue making money.

Molesting a child is no way comparable to getting pregnant by accident. You do know that condoms and even birth control can fail. Also, there is that neat little trick some men pull of removing a condom during the sex act. How is that a woman's fault?

Don't believe in abortion, don't get one. Don't force women who DO believe in abortion to toe your line, fascist.

It is 1000% anti-woman to force a woman to have a baby. Fuck off with this BS. You're never going to convince me you have the right to do this, fascist.

 

[LotusBud]

A zygote is not a child. Children who die of hunger, from lack of medical care, during immigration detention, of suicide, or as the result of abuse, ARE, however, children. YOU are child killers.

Actual checkmate, as opposed to fantasy checkmate.

Idiot, 5 month pregnancies result in surviving babies all the time. In America, we offer 100% free food and healthcare to 100% of children at 400% above poverty. Children in detention for illegal immigration are very well taken care of especially in comparison to what they have in their own countries. When we compare the numbers, YOU people are on the same level as Stalin.

Who the fuck here is advocating for 5-month abortions? Who? There are quite a few weeks to spare between 6 and 20.

Well, where should the line be drawn?

I already clearly posted what I believe.

 

[Lokmar]

A zygote is not a child. Children who die of hunger, from lack of medical care, during immigration detention, of suicide, or as the result of abuse, ARE, however, children. YOU are child killers.

Actual checkmate, as opposed to fantasy checkmate.

Idiot, 5 month pregnancies result in surviving babies all the time. In America, we offer 100% free food and healthcare to 100% of children at 400% above poverty. Children in detention for illegal immigration are very well taken care of especially in comparison to what they have in their own countries. When we compare the numbers, YOU people are on the same level as Stalin.

Who the fuck here is advocating for 5-month abortions? Who? There are quite a few weeks to spare between 6 and 20.

The entire reason libs are fighting to maintain abortion rights now is because they refused to limit them. Now you're gonna lose em all.