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Marge Sasquatch Greene chills out with some very fine people.
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<blockquote data-quote="Dove" data-source="post: 509879" data-attributes="member: 535"><p>Nope. This is just another gaslighting spin to say if you dont support war with Russia.....that means you support Russias invasion of Ukraine. Which is another manipulative false dichotomy.</p><p></p><p>Also it is saying if you do not view NATO as some holy pure entity that is ultimate good and completely innocent in everything....that means you are "pro Putin" and pro the Ukraine invasion.</p><p></p><p>This type of gaslighting is intended to muddy up the lines here and over simplify a very layered and complicated conflict and the purpose of doing so is to once again make it look like America going to war is a heroic and nessesary endeavor to "defend freedom".</p><p></p><p>Most all the people you are eager to label "pro Putin" are NOT pro Putin, are absolutely NOT pro Ukraine invasion.....and STILL do not support any American involvement in matters that do not concern us in a situation where OUR involvement inflamed and contributed to the sad events we are seeing today.</p><p></p><p>You wonder why people say Americans are narcissistic, why we get called "united snakes". Do even know how Ukrainains feel about joining NATO? Does that matter in your vision of some global utopia that can evidently only be brought by nuclear war?</p><p></p><p>You know Putin is claiming to be preparing the nukes right?</p><p></p><p>I guess since you think massive death and suffering is how we "progress" into forcing the whole world....country by country.. into adopting these "liberal" ideals that you hold, it's a good caused and the only way anyone could possibly oppose war with Russia would be they are like...totally on Putins side and support the Ukraine invasion.</p><p></p><p>You twisting shit in reverse proves nothing except your inability to consider other stances outside of the pro/anti Putin paradigm you are being fed by corporate media (and it is a corporate body... you are niave and uninformed if you dont know that).</p><p></p><p>How about the reality that many people do not support Putin, who think he is a psychopath, but who also acknowledge how the actions of western leaders and NATO have inflamed and agitated this conflict to the point of a predictable invasion of Ukraine and absolutely assert we need to take several steps back before MORE suffering and death comes to all the ordinary people who do NOT want war?</p><p></p><p>I'd ask you why you think America needs to go dominate Russia on behalf of Ukraine but you likely have no answer for that. Just like how you never have answer for any of the wacky and harmful shit you blather on about. Like forced vaccines or how Trump tried to be a dictator.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dove, post: 509879, member: 535"] Nope. This is just another gaslighting spin to say if you dont support war with Russia.....that means you support Russias invasion of Ukraine. Which is another manipulative false dichotomy. Also it is saying if you do not view NATO as some holy pure entity that is ultimate good and completely innocent in everything....that means you are "pro Putin" and pro the Ukraine invasion. This type of gaslighting is intended to muddy up the lines here and over simplify a very layered and complicated conflict and the purpose of doing so is to once again make it look like America going to war is a heroic and nessesary endeavor to "defend freedom". Most all the people you are eager to label "pro Putin" are NOT pro Putin, are absolutely NOT pro Ukraine invasion.....and STILL do not support any American involvement in matters that do not concern us in a situation where OUR involvement inflamed and contributed to the sad events we are seeing today. You wonder why people say Americans are narcissistic, why we get called "united snakes". Do even know how Ukrainains feel about joining NATO? Does that matter in your vision of some global utopia that can evidently only be brought by nuclear war? You know Putin is claiming to be preparing the nukes right? I guess since you think massive death and suffering is how we "progress" into forcing the whole world....country by country.. into adopting these "liberal" ideals that you hold, it's a good caused and the only way anyone could possibly oppose war with Russia would be they are like...totally on Putins side and support the Ukraine invasion. You twisting shit in reverse proves nothing except your inability to consider other stances outside of the pro/anti Putin paradigm you are being fed by corporate media (and it is a corporate body... you are niave and uninformed if you dont know that). How about the reality that many people do not support Putin, who think he is a psychopath, but who also acknowledge how the actions of western leaders and NATO have inflamed and agitated this conflict to the point of a predictable invasion of Ukraine and absolutely assert we need to take several steps back before MORE suffering and death comes to all the ordinary people who do NOT want war? I'd ask you why you think America needs to go dominate Russia on behalf of Ukraine but you likely have no answer for that. Just like how you never have answer for any of the wacky and harmful shit you blather on about. Like forced vaccines or how Trump tried to be a dictator. [/QUOTE]
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