Martin Luther King Jr. (Caution, Thread may contain traces of CRT)

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Martin Luther King was murdered when he was just 39 yrs old.. I was a junior in high school. I remember my mom cried. He was arrested 29 times - mostly for just walking down the street or asking for a cup of coffee at a lunch counter. I consider him the best example of what an American can be and the best example of what a Christian should be. I am acutely aware that probably a third of white Christian America would disagree or not give a shit. MLK day was first suggested right after his murder... Arizona at first adopted it, but then Repubs rescinded it, and AZ has never officially honored Dr. King by name (instead, 'Civil Rights Day'). Alabama and Mississippi decided to openly mock his memory by establishing 'Martin Luther King - Robert E. Lee Day'... a truly despicable and openly racist 'message'. South Carolina was the last state (24 yrs after his death) to recognize MLK Day, and for years, state employees could choose between celebrating MLK Day or one of THREE state holidays honoring the Confederacy. Right now, the Republican Party is doing everything they can to silence teachers from sharing the whole truth about racism in America while concurrently restricting African Americans from voting by hampering access to the polls in their districts. Today, I honor Dr. Martin Luther King and his sacrifice and may America someday heal from the scars of slavery and racism.


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Mostly I remember the day he got shot.

He was standing on a balcony.

 

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Admin CRT material doesnt include anything from MLK. It's a few selective quotes but it's taken entire essays written by MLK out as well as writing from Maya Angelou.

You only support CRT/equity because you see it as something conservatives oppose.

Not because you've dug into the issue to get informed on what it is and why people dont want it forced on their kids.

You just believe some bizzare idea that it's a history class. Its NOT history. It uses cherry picked parts of history to build a false narrative about the country.

You have no idea what you are talking about here and you dont really care about the issue. You just see some partisan bandwagon and you are cheering for your team out of hate of other parties.

MLK would be speaking out against CRT. He would not be on the side of bringing back racist hate. The lefts current narrative surrounding race flies in the face of everything he stood for.
 

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MLK would likely be very disillusioned if he was still alive today.

He would get shot again by leftwing activists for being a black face of white supremacy

He wanted content of character to be placed over skin color. He was also a believer in God. There would be no tolerance for his message today. Or Malcolm X, who essentially told white people to stop trying to save black people.

History is being revised to justify a race war narrative.
 

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I wasn't very old at the time but I remember seeing the Civil Rights movement unfold.

Most of the idealism of that time is dead.

Comparing then & now is like Night n day.
America has really gone downhill since then.
 
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MLK would likely be very disillusioned if he was still alive today.

He would get shot again by leftwing activists for being a black face of white supremacy

He wanted content of character to be placed over skin color. He was also a believer in God. There would be no tolerance for his message today. Or Malcolm X, who essentially told white people to stop trying to save black people.

History is being revised to justify a race war narrative.
Dove you have been asked to stop acting like an idiot, is there some compelling reason why you are unable to?
 

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Or Malcolm X, who essentially told white people to stop trying to save black people.

I kinda remember Macom X.
He was riveting dynamic figure.

He was murdered by his rival.

From Michigan, eh?
 

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MLK would likely be very disillusioned if he was still alive today.

He would get shot again by leftwing activists for being a black face of white supremacy

He wanted content of character to be placed over skin color. He was also a believer in God. There would be no tolerance for his message today. Or Malcolm X, who essentially told white people to stop trying to save black people.

History is being revised to justify a race war narrative.
Dove you have been asked to stop acting like an idiot, is there some compelling reason why you are unable to?

The lack of credibility by the two people claiming I'm an "idiot" but who are unable to engage anything I say.

I mean you guys straight up call the CRT material itself a lie.

If MLK were alive today, you guys would label him a "right winger" with "internalized racism" and probably deplatform and smear him. Kinda like what happens to his niece.
 

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Or Malcolm X, who essentially told white people to stop trying to save black people.

I kinda remember Macom X.
He was riveting dynamic figure.

He was murdered by his rival.

From Michigan, eh?

Not sure.

I know he had a lot of true and harsh words for the entire political spectrum. He warned about a lot of the shit we see today.

It's just sad.
 

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MI is actually a very historical place.

A lot more history than where I live!
 

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As the Texas Legislature's special session wound down Thursday, lawmakers sent Gov.
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a reworked version of the GOP’s so-called “critical race theory” bill, which aims to restrict how race and history are taught in schools.

After a 81-43 vote Thursday afternoon in the Texas House, the bill went to the Senate, where lawmakers quickly accepted the House’s changes. The bill heads to Abbott with significant changes from what the Senate originally approved in early August.

Abbott had already signed into law a “critical race theory” bill during the regular session but declared at the time that more needs to be done to “abolish” critical race theory in Texas classrooms. The current law,
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, already restricts how current events and America’s history of racism can be taught in Texas schools but also includes provisions authored by Democrats that required teaching that white supremacy is morally wrong and required readings from prominent people of color in American history.
 

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No, not true.

The Portuguese, Spanish did the same thing in the Americas.

And the English and French did it in Canada.

to this end the Americans were the last of the genocidists.

The Americans were certainly not the only ones.
 
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No, not true.

The Portuguese, Spanish did the same thing in the Americas.

And the English and French did it in Canada.

to this end the Americans were the last of the genocidists.

The Americans were certainly not the only ones.
King did not say otherwise, he was addressing the USA (This country*), not the entire western hemisphere.
 

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This isnt true at all.

And most natives dont support this narrative either. Its completely normal human history to migrate and fight over land.

Even the "indigenous" people did the same thing. And indigenous tribes even tried to wipe eachother out.

A lot of nuance and context gets left out of EVERY racist narrative.....even the anti white one.
 
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This isnt true at all.

And most natives dont support this narrative either. Its completely normal human history to migrate and fight over land.

Even the "indigenous" people did the same thing. And indigenous tribes even tried to wipe eachother out.

A lot of nuance and context gets left out of EVERY racist narrative.....even the anti white one.
Just stop Dove.
 

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White conservatives are very fond of that line about the content of character. But there’s more.


When you’re right, you’re right. And you are definitely right about that quote from Martin Luther King.
When he stood at the temple of Lincoln in 1963 and declared his dream “that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character,” he surely spoke a word for the ages.

Your fondness for that word has not gone unnoticed. How could it? You invoke that line all the time — all ... the ... time — to show that King, had he not been murdered by a white supremacist in 1968, would have stood in solidarity with your social and political agenda.

Most recently, you’ve used it in opposing the teaching of critical race theory. You use it so much that a body might think you couldn’t name another King quote if the survival of the human species depended on it.

Well, did you know Martin Luther King said other things? It’s true! In a spirit of public service and in celebration of his birthday, here are a few of them. You’ll be happy to know that they support your right-wing agenda exactly as much as your favorite quote does.


For instance, use this one to show that King would have shared your love of capitalism:
“Something is wrong with capitalism. Maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism. We must develop programs that will drive the nation to the realization of the need for a guaranteed annual income.”
And like you, he surely would’ve condemned reparations and affirmative action:
“A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for him, in order to equip him to compete on a just and equal basis.”

Certainly he didn’t believe there was any such thing as white privilege:

“Whites, it must frankly be said, are not putting in a ... mass effort to re-educate themselves out of their racial ignorance. It is an aspect of their sense of superiority that the white people of America believe they have so little to learn.”

And he likely would have opposed ending the filibuster:
“I think the tragedy is that we have a Congress with a Senate that has a minority of misguided senators who will use the filibuster to keep the majority of people from even voting.”

Surely, King would have sided with the makers over the takers:
“This country has socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for the poor.”

And he would’ve shared your contempt for Black Lives Matter:
“I had seen police brutality with my own eyes and watched Negroes receive the most tragic injustice in the court. All of these things had done something to my growing personality.”

Try this quote to prove that King, like you, thought there was no such thing as systemic racism:

“For the good of America, it is necessary to refute the idea that the dominant ideology in our country even today is freedom and equality while racism is just an occasional departure from the norm on the part of a few bigoted extremists.”

And if all that seems a lot to remember, well, it’s summed up in something he said on the last night of his life. He was a tired and frustrated man by then after 13 years of marches, speeches and death threats, struggling with a nation that refused to venerate its own lofty ideals. And he told an audience in Memphis:


“All we say to America is: be true to what you said on paper.”

Leonard Pitts, Jr.
 

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MLK specifically said post modernism was bad for society and was a dead end.
 

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If Martin Luther King Jr. lived in the dystopian progressive future that Admin and Holliday envision, where “whiteness” is finally expiated and all the “racist” sins of white people over the centuries is finally reckoned with, he probably would have applied for a government job as a guard at the nearest extermination facility where all the white people will be reckoned with.
 

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I'll shut the fuck up when the big black government van comes to take me to the extermination facility.

I probably won't go quietly, by my sin of "whiteness" will be expiated.
 

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If Martin Luther King Jr. lived in the dystopian progressive future that Admin and Holliday envision, where “whiteness” is finally expiated and all the “racist” sins of white people over the centuries is finally reckoned with, he probably would have applied for a government job as a guard at the nearest extermination facility where all the white people will be reckoned with.

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