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Murdock My old friend, A question if you have a moment
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<blockquote data-quote="Dove" data-source="post: 352633" data-attributes="member: 535"><p>You realize the difference is when people start saying its Clinton's or Obama's fault they always have very specific and direct actions, policies and legislation done by these presidents? </p><p></p><p> You guys slam every Republican (and many of those Republicans are no different from democrats btw...they are on a side and it isnt ours) BUT when you guys are asked for specific examples (in context quotes, policy and legislation) you guys dont really produce any.... but you will call us stupid, duped, so on. </p><p></p><p> That's the difference. People slamming democrats can tell you democrat policies they hate. It's not a bunch of corporate media propaganda like "omg Trump is racist".....we have examples as to why we do not support the Democrats and progressives. </p><p></p><p> And when we address those, they get ignored. You guys refuse to address the only thing that matters, policy. </p><p></p><p> Let me tell you what partisan hackery IS. Its "blue no matter who". If you vote for a politicain for ANY reason that is NOT about direct POLICY, you are a partisan. If you vote or support a politicain because you just do not like them as a person, or because socially other people hate and slam them....that's partisan. If you vote just to vote against another party? Partisan hackery. The ONLY democrat worth a shit is Tulsi. You know why? Because she CARES about the country as a whole and is willing to work across the isle. I may not support all her policies but I would vote for her over a Romney if that were a choice. </p><p></p><p> You guys vote and side with politicians based on party ALONE. </p><p></p><p> The ONLY reason to vote, is for policies. </p><p></p><p> And no Trump was NOT "hated by the vast majority". You only think that because you are from a progressive state, your peer group is probably entirely leftists, you probably chose a more leftwing area to move to, and the entire establishment hated Trump. Trumps nationalist, American message and strong service to working regular Americans and his anti war leadership was directly detrimental to the oligarchs global marketing campaign. So every mainstream source slammed him. </p><p></p><p> And if you cant SEE that, it's because you refuse to look. Because you dont WANT to hate what you label a "con" less. </p><p></p><p> WE can give direct examples of policies from Trump to justify our support of him and our opinions on it. When we do that? You guys call us "duped liars"... .which BTW is garbage. You cant just call something a lie because you dont WANT to acknowledge it. We SAW the results of Trump policy. Pretending they didn't happen is DELUSIONAL partisan hackery. </p><p></p><p> When we ask you guys for specific examples of policies to justify your hatred of him and opinions of him......you guys cannot come up with anything. Not ONE. You cant even back the corporate gossip. Him being wealthy is not a valid example. </p><p></p><p> So maybe.....just MAYBE really think about that and ask yourself if just MAYBE it's not US "trumptards" that have been duped here. You seem to not notice the entire establishment on your side of the Trump issue. Including Bush, Romney....you know the Rinos. Even Jeff Bezos who you cant stand is on your side of this. Doesnt THAT tell you something? </p><p></p><p> If I were having a strong emotional response and hated someone this much and opposed them and even started hating that person's supporters.....but I had no policy/legislation examples behind my opposition .....just FEELINGS.....I would ask myself if I've been manipulated. But I've been in abusive relationships, so I'm very self aware and I know the signs that I've been emotionally manipulated. </p><p></p><p> You guys need to ask yourselves these questions, listen to the other side of this rather than just dismissing it and refusing to hear it, and objectively look at what Trump DID in office for the people.</p><p></p><p> You guys are so determined to hate Trump that you've redefined "partisan" to have an excuse to do it and gaslight us when we directly show WHY we support him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dove, post: 352633, member: 535"] You realize the difference is when people start saying its Clinton's or Obama's fault they always have very specific and direct actions, policies and legislation done by these presidents? You guys slam every Republican (and many of those Republicans are no different from democrats btw...they are on a side and it isnt ours) BUT when you guys are asked for specific examples (in context quotes, policy and legislation) you guys dont really produce any.... but you will call us stupid, duped, so on. That's the difference. People slamming democrats can tell you democrat policies they hate. It's not a bunch of corporate media propaganda like "omg Trump is racist".....we have examples as to why we do not support the Democrats and progressives. And when we address those, they get ignored. You guys refuse to address the only thing that matters, policy. Let me tell you what partisan hackery IS. Its "blue no matter who". If you vote for a politicain for ANY reason that is NOT about direct POLICY, you are a partisan. If you vote or support a politicain because you just do not like them as a person, or because socially other people hate and slam them....that's partisan. If you vote just to vote against another party? Partisan hackery. The ONLY democrat worth a shit is Tulsi. You know why? Because she CARES about the country as a whole and is willing to work across the isle. I may not support all her policies but I would vote for her over a Romney if that were a choice. You guys vote and side with politicians based on party ALONE. The ONLY reason to vote, is for policies. And no Trump was NOT "hated by the vast majority". You only think that because you are from a progressive state, your peer group is probably entirely leftists, you probably chose a more leftwing area to move to, and the entire establishment hated Trump. Trumps nationalist, American message and strong service to working regular Americans and his anti war leadership was directly detrimental to the oligarchs global marketing campaign. So every mainstream source slammed him. And if you cant SEE that, it's because you refuse to look. Because you dont WANT to hate what you label a "con" less. WE can give direct examples of policies from Trump to justify our support of him and our opinions on it. When we do that? You guys call us "duped liars"... .which BTW is garbage. You cant just call something a lie because you dont WANT to acknowledge it. We SAW the results of Trump policy. Pretending they didn't happen is DELUSIONAL partisan hackery. When we ask you guys for specific examples of policies to justify your hatred of him and opinions of him......you guys cannot come up with anything. Not ONE. You cant even back the corporate gossip. Him being wealthy is not a valid example. So maybe.....just MAYBE really think about that and ask yourself if just MAYBE it's not US "trumptards" that have been duped here. You seem to not notice the entire establishment on your side of the Trump issue. Including Bush, Romney....you know the Rinos. Even Jeff Bezos who you cant stand is on your side of this. Doesnt THAT tell you something? If I were having a strong emotional response and hated someone this much and opposed them and even started hating that person's supporters.....but I had no policy/legislation examples behind my opposition .....just FEELINGS.....I would ask myself if I've been manipulated. But I've been in abusive relationships, so I'm very self aware and I know the signs that I've been emotionally manipulated. You guys need to ask yourselves these questions, listen to the other side of this rather than just dismissing it and refusing to hear it, and objectively look at what Trump DID in office for the people. You guys are so determined to hate Trump that you've redefined "partisan" to have an excuse to do it and gaslight us when we directly show WHY we support him. [/QUOTE]
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