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<blockquote data-quote="Dove" data-source="post: 314070" data-attributes="member: 535">No, I'm not. &nbsp;You just presented a very flawed argument. Firstly, just because men are not the perpetrators of domestic violence does NOT mean they are perpetrators of violence against women.&nbsp; There is still A LOT of male on female violence. The fact that men suffer abuse at the hands of female partners doesn't negate this. &nbsp;How often are predatory women going to take advantage of access to male spaces, go in them and assault men or expose themselves to men and little boys? &nbsp;You absolutely cannot make the argument that men and women are the same here. Data doesnt even support this. The vast majority of sex crimes are initiated by men. &nbsp;So if anything you just strengthened my point about why we need sex segregated spaces for privacy and safety because women assault men as well then. &nbsp;If your argument is that we shouldnt have sex segregated spaces because women assault men as well...... well that's a pretty flawed argument because it just helps mine.&nbsp;Keep people safe by keeping us segregated in vulnerable spaces.&nbsp;Especailly in prison where men are claiming to identify as women, getting into womens prisons and beating and raping them.&nbsp;I'm really really confused on how pointing out that men experience violence at the hands of women(albeit not nearly as much) is a flaw in MY argument.&nbsp; Also men are NOT likely to be sexually assaulted or harassed by random women.&nbsp; Women deal with unwanted and uncomfortable sexual advances from men all the time. ALL the time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dove, post: 314070, member: 535"] No, I'm not. You just presented a very flawed argument. Firstly, just because men are not the perpetrators of domestic violence does NOT mean they are perpetrators of violence against women. There is still A LOT of male on female violence. The fact that men suffer abuse at the hands of female partners doesn't negate this. How often are predatory women going to take advantage of access to male spaces, go in them and assault men or expose themselves to men and little boys? You absolutely cannot make the argument that men and women are the same here. Data doesnt even support this. The vast majority of sex crimes are initiated by men. So if anything you just strengthened my point about why we need sex segregated spaces for privacy and safety because women assault men as well then. If your argument is that we shouldnt have sex segregated spaces because women assault men as well...... well that's a pretty flawed argument because it just helps mine. Keep people safe by keeping us segregated in vulnerable spaces. Especailly in prison where men are claiming to identify as women, getting into womens prisons and beating and raping them. I'm really really confused on how pointing out that men experience violence at the hands of women(albeit not nearly as much) is a flaw in MY argument. Also men are NOT likely to be sexually assaulted or harassed by random women. Women deal with unwanted and uncomfortable sexual advances from men all the time. ALL the time. [/QUOTE]

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