What I wanna hear from
@SHAMPAIN and
@Aryan is a synopsis of what argument the holocaust deniers offer against all the CONTEMPORARY film evidence that was specifically ordered by Gen. Patton to document the conditions of the Buchenwald complex, his demand that the mayor of Weimar select a thousand citizens to walk 26 miles and tour the camp and help with the mass burials of rotten corpses, the US senators and respected journalists such as Murrow who all made their own reports, etc.? Can anyone expect the suggestion that all that shit was cooked up and faked in the space of a day or two, to be believable?
Buchenwald is probably the best documented, but there is of course plenty of Russian documentation of Auschwitz-Birkenau and plenty of US documentation of Dachau despite the Nazis knowing the jig was up and having a couple of weeks to march lots of prisoners out of the camps to die elsewhere and then clear the fuck out themselves, leaving only prisoners who were too sick or dead to be moved, with a handful of guards.
What do you schmucks say to all the evidence that makes your positions untenable? It better be good, and it better be something I have time to read. Cause I been thru this with some other fucks previously, who I think were better debaters than y'all.
"Schmucks"? Bitchscape has already been exposed as a Jew recently, don't tell me we have another one?
Lokmar is suspect too, but he denies it and I've chosen to accept his word on the matter.
What are you arguing here exactly? Nobody is denying that camp inmates died, especially towards the end of the war when supplies had run out due to sustained Allied bombing attacks. The "rotten corpses" you speak of will have been victims of Typhus most likely, which spread like wildfire once medical supplies dried up.
For the last fucking time, nobody is denying that people died, it's the 6 million figure and the murderous gas chambers nonsense which we refuse to believe. No doubt you aren't aware of just how many Jews have been caught lying about the concentration camps?
Here are just a few examples....
To be fair.....people HAVE lied about surviving Auschwizt. But that doesnt mean the holocaust wasnt real.
And Hitler was murdering even non Jews.
Tell me more about the elite Jews. Do you have any information on the claim they've been booted from 109 countries? I've seen some dialog on this but it's a site that was taken down and called anti semitic. Someone was asking about it.
I'm not anti jew, btw. But the jews I interact with are Messianic jews. I've only know either just regular ethnic ones that are just regular Americans. And I've interacted with jews who reject Christ and somehow practice "Judaism".
And I really have no idea how that's even possible to practice Judaism. I have no idea what they are practicing but evidently they've taken Isaiah 63 out of the Torah(OT) and still waiting for the Messiah. And I have no idea how they are managing sin without the Temple and the Arc of the Covenant. It really makes no sense whatsoever and they are pretty hostile towards Yeshua and Christian's. They blame us for all the jew hate in the world....which also makes no sense. I dont know what they are practicing, but it certainly isnt OT Judaism. It's not possible. They had to have altered it completely.
Mad claiming we ACCUSE them of murdering Jesus... .when we are certain it was ordained by God, prophesied for thousands of years.....and completely nessesary for the salvation of humans.
They are pretty messed up over it in their thinking and they have so much animosity towards Jesus.
I'm not asking because I want to hate jews or anything. I'm just interested in that claim about 109 countries. The jews really do get slapped around the timeline. I've never heard of jew supremacy before recently or knew that communism started as a jew thing and Marx sort of adopted it. I'd like to see info about that as well if you have it.
And again this doesnt mean I'm jumping on some jew hate bandwagon or that I think Hitler was lied about at all. You know I'm not gonna agree about the Holocaust....im definately sure propaganda was made and what we know may be less than perfectly accurate but I dont at doubt the brutality that came with the war and the brutality from the nazis.
I'm just interested in claims I've only just heard over the past year. I also didnt know the illuminati/Cabal conspiracy theories were rooted in a belief that a group of elite jews were taking over the world. Even if its true....I'm not gonna be racist towards anyone. I'm just not surprise if jews who reject Jesus are cursed somehow.
I figure if anyone has a list about that 109 country claim(where they were booted and why) it's probably you guys.
BTW, that jew/communism thing is pure bullshit too. Jamestown in America was founded upon communist ideals and everyone nearly died because of it. Communist principals have been around forever.
Jews have been the pioneers and main orchestrators behind the spread of Communism for centuries.
Not Jews:
| 24 Jan 2005 | Rakesh Wadhwa
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10/31/2008, 9:15:01 AM by
I write this especially for our Maoist brothers. While the US is commonly vilified as the bastion of capitalism, it is little known that the US too has tried communism. It was only when communism failed that property rights and capitalism took hold.
Let us go back into history and see what lessons America learned from its relatively short dalliance with Maoism much before the ‘great leader' himself was born.
The year was 1607. The first 104 settlers had arrived from Europe in Jamestown in the Virginia Tidewater region of the US in May. They found soil which was fertile beyond what they had seen in the lands which they had left. Fruits were abundant. Wild game such as deer and turkey were everywhere. There was no shortage of fish and other seafood. And yet within six months 66 of the original Jamestown, Virginia settlers had died. Only 38 survived.
Another 500 settlers were again sent to settle in Virginia in 1609 and within six months 440 of these too died by starvation and disease. This was called ‘starving time' and one eyewitness described it in English of those times, ‘So great was our famine, that a Savage we slew and buried, the poorer sorte took him up againe and eat him; and so did divers one another boyled and stewed with roots and herbs.'
How could this be? How could there be such death and starvation amidst so much plenty of meat, fruits, and fish. The fault as the witness said lay not in the ‘barrenness and defect of the Countrie' but in the ‘want of providence, industry and government'.
What caused this lack of ‘industrie'? Were the Virginian settlers lazy and indolent? It could not be. People who were sent there were the chosen ones – the very best of men.
The problem was that all the men who were sent were bonded labourers. They had no stake in what they produced. They were bound by contract to put all they produced into a common pool to be used to support their colony as a whole. This was communism in its purest form. Everyone was supposed to work according to ability and take according to need.
As so frequently happens with present day government policies, the results were the opposite of what was intended. Since hard work was not personally beneficial for the settlers they responded by stopping work.
Phillip A. Bruce, a late 19th century US historian, wrote of the Jamestown immigrants, “The settlers did not have even a modified interest in the soil … . Everything produced by them went into the store, in which they had no proprietorship.” The result as Bruce wrote would be what anyone who has any knowledge of human nature would expect, men, even the most energetic, refused to work.
This is what happened in Mao's China and in Soviet Russia on a grand scale. In America a few hundred deaths stopped the communist experiment, in China and Russia, millions had to die before these nations abandoned the principles of Marx, Lenin, and Mao.
Jamestown changed course just two years later in 1611 with arrival of the ‘high marshall' Sir Thomas Dale from the UK. He understood the problem, freed the settlers by abrogating communal ownership. Each man received three acres of land and, other than a lump sum tax of 2 ½ barrels of corn, did not have to contribute anything to the common pool. The colony immediately began to prosper. It prospered because each individual directly benefited by his labour and knew that he would also bear the full consequences of any reduction in output. Private ownership and capitalism worked.
Communism doesn't work because it destroys the reward and work nexus. Communism doesn't work because the absence of property rights heralds the end of all incentive to produce. Communism doesn't work because humans do no wish to sacrifice themselves to the common good.
I do not know or care about the political philosophy of the Maoists. I would, though, like to know what their economic policies are going to be. Do they want to take back Nepal to what America experimented with almost 400 years ago? Nepal lags behind the US in economic development, but is it to be put back by four centuries?.
