Oh, so now it's illegal to be homeless?

[The Prowler]

Then she goes on to list people who are poor, foster kids and runaways should not be impacted by this bill. Which none would be.

Exactly. I even highlighted that part to help people understand....

It also commits federal funding to move people on the streets who are "causing public disorder and that are suffering from serious mental illness or addiction" to "treatment centers, assisted outpatient treatment, or other facilities."

"causing public disorder and that are suffering from serious mental illness or addiction"

Let me take it deeper. These people im talking about who are homeless because of hard times and not substance abuse and mental illness are not physically ON the streets. They are in shelters and programs. So they are typically without a residence for an average period of 3 months.

These are not the people under tarps living in encampments.

Correct.

I found the comment about "living under a tarp right next to a busy urban thoroughfare" funny because they say that like it is not their choice. They all have other options.

People like @Lily and @Admin. are just very out-of-touch. They get their ideas from TV shows and movies.

 

[LotusBud]

Not to worry, Trump is building for profit concentration camps all over the country for all the 600 gazillion “illegals “! I’m sure there’s plenty of room for the homeless, protesters, media people, teachers, professors, democrats, social democrats, labor unionists…dog lovers etc

Is he using Obama's camps?

 

[LotusBud]

I always support freedom over government. You really can't force medical treatment
on a person. But, you know, the COVID scamdemic fooled a lot of people into surrendering
their rights and allowed the government to forcefully inject them with an experiment under
duress and coercion?

We know how that turned out.

You see the can of worms that shit can open up when you give government to much power?

But anyway, back to the original topic.

As a person that lived in Brooklyn his whole life and has the seriousness of the homeless
population, I can tell you that almost all of them have a mental illness and some of them
are dangerous.

It kind of creates this grey area. You have to decide whose rights you are going to protect.
The mentally disturbed homeless guy who might push an innocent employed taxpayer onto
the train tracks, or the innocent employed taxpayer?

Then they have to come up with an enforcement procedure which is pretty difficult for anyone
with a decent understanding of law. You can't lawfully send out the police like stormtroopers
to start rounding up people for simply being homeless.

Why are there so many homeless people to begin with? Do you know? There are people with mental health issues in other countries, and they aren't sleeping in cardboard boxes.

 

[Dove]

Why are there so many homeless people to begin with? Do you know? There are people with mental health issues in other countries, and they aren't sleeping in cardboard boxes.

Because they are getting treatment. Just like how now they will be placed into treatment.

Many other countries dont just leave mentally ill, drug or alcohol addicted human beings on the streets to rot like we have been doing.

 

[Lily]

Yes, there are homeless families living on the streets. In California, while the number of homeless youth (without parents or guardians) has decreased, the number of homeless families with children has remained relatively flat. Nationally, the number of homeless families has increased, though California saw a smaller rise. Many families experiencing homelessness are unsheltered, meaning they live on the streets, in encampments, or in vehicles.

 

[The Prowler]

Why are there so many homeless people to begin with? Do you know? There are people with mental health issues in other countries, and they aren't sleeping in cardboard boxes.

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[Liberty1976]

Why are there so many homeless people to begin with? Do you know? There are people with mental health issues in other countries, and they aren't sleeping in cardboard boxes.

High taxes, over regulation in the private sector, it's an overall lack of freedom.

The real answer is in everything around you. Almost everything is imported.

How quickly can you grab something around you that's made in the United States? I'll wait.

I can't even find an article of clothing made in America without going on the internet
and find some veteran-owned businesses that make them.

 

[Liberty1976]

Its not a grey area at all. If people want to be a detriment to themselves - fair enough. As long as they are not psychotic.

But once they become a menace and are living out on the streets.....if they are going to be costing tax payers anyway, they can just get treatment. Get the help they need. Or go sit in jail.

They are not simply homeless. They are all drunk and high. If nothing is done thats even cruelity. Everyone suffers the way it is right now.

And dude some of them are throwing actual shit on people.

I know.

Another problem I've noticed in my years of going to school and working at jobs
is that most people have something going on that psychologists would diagnose
as a mental health issue.

And if they can't find anything wrong, they just make
something up, like "Oppositional Defiant Disorder" by the way.

I'm not saying that mental health issues don't exist, they do and I myself have at least one as told to
me many years ago by doctors.

I've been around the "mentally ill" since I was a child in different situations as well as had the time to
analyze my own "bipolar disorder." I realized that most of the time, people go crazy because of the
stress of life's circumstances.

So yeah, they do need help. They may have gone crazy because of the experiences they had in a society
with an illness. Diagnosing you with a "disorder" is society's way of covering up its own illness by pointing
the finger at you.

 

[LotusBud]

High taxes, over regulation in the private sector, it's an overall lack of freedom.

The real answer is in everything around you. Almost everything is imported.

How quickly can you grab something around you that's made in the United States? I'll wait.

I can't even find an article of clothing made in America without going on the internet
and find some veteran-owned businesses that make them.

High taxes and over regulation cause homelessness? First time I ever heard those as excuses for the excesses of capitalism. You are out of your mind.

And yes, outsourcing has caused economic woes, but the outsourcing has ALL happened because of capitalist greed and LACK of regulations on corporate greed, and it has been supported all along the way by pro-corporate lawmakers, most of whom were originally RepubiiCONS.

 

[The Prowler]

High taxes and over regulation cause homelessness?

@LotusBud cannot figure out how having less money to pay for rent can result in not being able to pay rent.


And this level of stupidity is being applauded here...