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<blockquote data-quote="Dove" data-source="post: 361549" data-attributes="member: 535">I mean yeah, it's a control thing. Shes a control freak of the highest order and she doesnt like my opinions or my confidence in my opinions. &nbsp;So she wants to get me banned/modded or &quot;ran off&quot; so I &quot;stfu&quot; like she wants me to. &nbsp;Its misogyny really. Trying to shame/degrade and silence a woman who is strong in her convictions and values.&nbsp; They cant respectfully refute any of my points, so the response is anger a ton of nasty attacks intended to put me in my &quot;place&quot;, which they think is below them. &nbsp;Then it's a million reasons and excuses why their incredible nastiness and personal attacks are &quot;justified&quot;,&nbsp; while also taking shots on others AND crying foul when shots are taken on them. &nbsp;You gotta wonder ....why show up, when it's just a miserable experience that gets you so pissed off, you lower yourself?&nbsp; Its toxic and shows a controling personality.&nbsp; Who knows why she responds to someone who doesnt even read her or wants to. Shes just controling.&nbsp;They want to be viewed as these strong and intelligent women, so if a strong and intelligent woman challenges their stances in ways they cannot refute respectfully.....the response is to get abusive and degrading. I'm not supposed to show strength or intelligence unless I'm echoing them.&nbsp; &nbsp;That is 100 percent what it's about and why I'll never view either of them as &quot;friends&quot; after all that. Nope.&nbsp;Lotus and I disagree on many things, but we dont take nasty personal digs at eachother. I wouldnt try tearing her down as a woman or a human being just because I dont like her opinions or even how she expresses them sometimes. And she doesnt do that to me, either. Because Lotus and I dont hate women.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dove, post: 361549, member: 535"] I mean yeah, it's a control thing. Shes a control freak of the highest order and she doesnt like my opinions or my confidence in my opinions. So she wants to get me banned/modded or "ran off" so I "stfu" like she wants me to. Its misogyny really. Trying to shame/degrade and silence a woman who is strong in her convictions and values. They cant respectfully refute any of my points, so the response is anger a ton of nasty attacks intended to put me in my "place", which they think is below them. Then it's a million reasons and excuses why their incredible nastiness and personal attacks are "justified", while also taking shots on others AND crying foul when shots are taken on them. You gotta wonder ....why show up, when it's just a miserable experience that gets you so pissed off, you lower yourself? Its toxic and shows a controling personality. Who knows why she responds to someone who doesnt even read her or wants to. Shes just controling. They want to be viewed as these strong and intelligent women, so if a strong and intelligent woman challenges their stances in ways they cannot refute respectfully.....the response is to get abusive and degrading. I'm not supposed to show strength or intelligence unless I'm echoing them. That is 100 percent what it's about and why I'll never view either of them as "friends" after all that. Nope. Lotus and I disagree on many things, but we dont take nasty personal digs at eachother. I wouldnt try tearing her down as a woman or a human being just because I dont like her opinions or even how she expresses them sometimes. And she doesnt do that to me, either. Because Lotus and I dont hate women. [/QUOTE]

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