People over 100 collecting Social Security

[LotusBud]

Trump and Musk are well aware how gullible their base is.

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[The Prowler]

@LotusBud seems to be okay with dead people collect Social Security.

What an idiot.

 

[Jack]

@LotusBud seems to be okay with dead people collect Social Security.

What an idiot.

The clock stops at age 115, in case you weren't aware.

There are 44,000 deadnames on that list, not "millions" that are 150 years old. All of the actual dead people are placed on a grand list that's sorted every payment cycle. Guess you didn't read the article very well.

Those 44k will be terminated pretty quickly given the publicity.

So, pretty much a total lie as a headline, the average payment for people of that age was around 900 a month.

There's your total savings.

 

[Lily]

Trump and Musk are well aware how gullible their base is.

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We're in a post-fact and post-constitutional world now

 

[The Prowler]

The clock stops at age 115, in case you weren't aware.

So people who die at a younger age should still collect until the age of 115?

Is that what you are trying to say, @jack?

There are 44,000 deadnames on that list, not "millions" that are 150 years old. All of the actual dead people are placed on a grand list that's sorted every payment cycle. Guess you didn't read the article very well.

"Deadname" is not a word.

Are you saying that dead people should still receive Social Security?

Those 44k will be terminated pretty quickly given the publicity.

"Given the publicity" that you are whining about. Hahaha!!!!

Terminated? I thought you said they were already dead?

What, are you going to kill them more!!!

So, pretty much a total lie as a headline,

Yeah, most Yahoo News headlines are total lies.

the average payment for people of that age was around 900 a month.

There's your total savings.

Are you saying #39.6 million each and every month?

 

[Jack]

"Deadname" is not a word.

Are you saying that dead people should still receive Social Security?

Try reading into what I'm typing. I'll try again.

There are 44,000 (+ or minus) dead people currently getting SS checks. Yes they are dead and still getting them. None of them are 115 yet. Anyone ELSE that has cashed ANY of these checks will be responsible for paying them back in full with interest, penalties and possibly jail time. I don't have an emotional response to clerical errors, especially when they will be recognized and fixed.

The average max payment for that age averages out to be 900 a month, with spouses getting about half that.

The headline was what was outrageous, not uncovering the clerical errors and fixing what's broken.

When DOGE uncovers stupid waste and fixes it, I'm all for it. That's my fucking money they're abusing.

In the meantime, DOGE has claimed 55 bil in "savings" yet has only accounted for 16 bil in real time. There was also 30 bil in clerical errors of theirs.

It's not a zero sum game. There's a lot of fraud, waste and corruption in our government. Many of the people doing the audits are bigger criminals than the mistakes they're catching.

 

[Admin.]

So people who die at a younger age should still collect until the age of 115?

Is that what you are trying to say, @jack?




"Deadname" is not a word.

Are you saying that dead people should still receive Social Security?




"Given the publicity" that you are whining about. Hahaha!!!!

Terminated? I thought you said they were already dead?

What, are you going to kill them more!!!

Yeah, most Yahoo News headlines are total lies.




Are you saying #39.6 million each and every month?

Show us the calculations!!!!

 

[Jack]

Are you saying #39.6 million each and every month?

Yes, and I'm also saying that anyone cashing those checks that's not dead (like relatives or whatever) will be forced to reimburse the government every penny. plus interest, penalties and possibly jail time.

So...we will get it all back.

 

[The Prowler]

When DOGE uncovers stupid waste and fixes it, I'm all for it.

Then you are happy that they have uncovered this fraudulent activity of paying Social Security to dead people?

So why the sad face?

 

[The Prowler]

So...we will get it all back.

Because of DOGE.

 

[Jack]

Because of DOGE.

I fully agree. I'm grateful somebody's finally doing something about it. been going on way too long.

 

[Admin.]

Yes, and I'm also saying that anyone cashing those checks that's not dead (like relatives or whatever) will be forced to reimburse the government every penny. plus interest, penalties and possibly jail time.

So...we will get it all back.

Quite often the people caught cashing those checks or eft’s are care givers who shared a symbiotic relationship with the deceased.

 

[The Prowler]

Because of DOGE.

I fully agree. I'm grateful somebody's finally doing something about it. been going on way too long.

Trump, FTW!!!!


@Lily

 

[Lily]

Yes, and I'm also saying that anyone cashing those checks that's not dead (like relatives or whatever) will be forced to reimburse the government every penny. plus interest, penalties and possibly jail time.

So...we will get it all back.

Usually it's a relative or caretaker of some kind that doesn't inform the SSA of their passing.

Once there are death certicates, the info is reconciled.

The vast majority of Americans do the right thing. DOGE isn't uncovering anything that the system isn't aware of.

The issue is that not all government information systens are linked. And they never will be under our federal and state systems. Deaths are recorded by counties, reported to the individual states and subsequently reported to relevant federal agencies.

Not understanding how government, local, state or federal, works doesn't mean there is massive corruption and that tens of millions of people are fraudulently receiving payments as DOGE lied about.

 

[Jack]

Quite often the people caught cashing those checks or eft’s are care givers who shared a symbiotic relationship with the deceased.

They're the ones that are going to get totally fucked by this.

 

[Admin.]

Usually it's a relative or caretaker of some kind that doesn't inform the SSA of their passing.

Once there are death certicates, the info is reconciled.

The vast majority of Americans do the right thing. DOGE isn't uncovering anything that the system isn't aware of.

The issue is that not all government information systens are linked. And they never will be under our federal and state systems. Deaths are recorded by counties, reported to the individual states and subsequently reported to relevant federal agencies.

Not understanding how government, local, state or federal, works doesn't mean there is massive corruption and that tens of millions of people are fraudulently receiving payments as DOGE lied about.

Doge is simply using those few examples to justify wrecking the entire system.


If a black kid steals my eggs and gasoline is that an indictment of the entire race?

 

[Lily]

Doge is simply using those few examples to justify wrecking the entire system.


If a black kid steals my eggs and gasoline is that an indictment of the entire race?

DOGE is taking advantage of people not knowing how government works.

 

[Joe]

It's not a zero sum game. There's a lot of fraud, waste and corruption in our government. Many of the people doing the audits are bigger criminals than the mistakes they're catching.

I wonder why no one is pointing out that DOGE itself needs public oversight

They use cases of fraud to justify slashing programs but what about the ones that may be working and are efficient?.

Ie - school lunch programs for children?

The inefficiency and waste may not be as horrendous as they claim and yet some departments or programs may get eliminated even if they are being well run

 

[Admin.]

I wonder why no one is pointing out that DOGE itself needs public oversight

They use cases of fraud to justify slashing programs but what about the ones that may be working and are efficient?.

Ie - school lunch programs for children?

The inefficiency and waste may not be as horrendous as they claim and yet some departments or programs may get eliminated even if they are being well run

They are extrapolating mole hills into mountains. To justify their extreme actions

 

[Joe]

What's so obvious about DOGE is there's a conflict of interest because Musk stands to gain by cutting essential public services

So really Musk shouldn't be anywhere near government contracts or information

If theres a DOGE it should be run by independent auditors unconnected with anyone in the Trump administration who are cherry picking all this info about wasteful government spending to fit their narrative.

Doge seems unconstitutional

You Americans should protest and demand an independent investigation on doge

 

[Admin.]

What's so obvious about DOGE is there's a conflict of interest because Musk stands to gain by cutting essential public services

So really Musk shouldn't be anywhere near government contracts or information

If theres a DOGE it should be run by independent auditors unconnected with anyone in the Trump administration who are cherry picking all this info about wasteful government spending to fit their narrative

Everybody in the world knows that, except the trumpophiles.

 

[Joe]

Everybody in the world knows that, except the trumpophiles.

But you and others should demand a public inquiry about doge and prosecution if they are breaking any laws.

Hopefully there'll be a change in Congress in the midterm elections.

I suppose that what Trump and musk are trying to do. Circumvent the law and get away with as much as they can before then

 

[Admin.]

But you and others should demand a public inquiry about doge and prosecution if they are breaking any laws.

Hopefully there'll be a change in Congress in the midterm elections.

I suppose that what Trump and musk are trying to do. Circumvent the law and get away with as much as they can before then

Well that is supposed to be the function of Congress. But unfortunately the congress is stacked with spineless toadies afraid to speak out for fear of being “primaried” as Musk has vociferously threatened to do.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Hopefully there'll be a change in Congress in the midterm elections.

There won't be. Know why there won't be? Because Democrats refuse to listen and refuse to learn. Nope! They know it all, and they will not hear a fucking thing the voters have told them. The behavior of the leftists on this board is a perfect microcosm of that.

 

[Admin.]

What is Doge really up to?




A couple years from now the economist’s will be able to tell us how much wealth was transferred upho by The Trump Criminal Enterprise

 

[Admin.]

IN TWO WEEKS TRUMP WILL UNVEIL HIS CONCEPTS OF PLANS TO HELP DOWN MARKET AMERICANS!!!

 

[Neil B. Formi]

IN TWO WEEKS TRUMP WILL UNVEIL HIS CONCEPTS OF PLANS TO HELP DOWN MARKET AMERICANS!!!

Impossible! Rich people don't spend money!

 

[Admin.]

Republicans Have Introduced Legislation to RAISE Your
Banking Fees...They Are NOT on Your side. They Are Owned.


“Oh this is great news, higher fees will mean better quality service, right?” The Unquestion

 

[Lily]

Republicans Have Introduced Legislation to RAISE Your
Banking Fees...They Are NOT on Your side. They Are Owned.


“Oh this is great news, higher fees will mean better quality service, right?” The Unquestion

It will make life more affordable for Americans as well!

#winning

 

[Joe]

There won't be. Know why there won't be? Because Democrats refuse to listen and refuse to learn. Nope! They know it all, and they will not hear a fucking thing the voters have told them. The behavior of the leftists on this board is a perfect microcosm of that.

Not my country @The Question but what I would have voted for if I were an American is either a Harris Presidency with a Republican Congress or Trump with a Democratic Congress.

If none of these parties can be trusted, why give either a blank cheque?

I would have put them both a leash so they couldn't do too much damage or ram an unpopular agenda through.

However, I can't vote in the USA