Plane crashes under Trump's watch!!!!

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No, he just fired all the guys that would have probably warned that jet not to go up there and cancel the flight.
That sounds like an issue originating with Toronto Pearson International Airport, which -- maybe this is a cRaZy guess! -- is not operating under the auspices of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.

Meaning that FAA layoffs had nought to do with what happened.

EDIT:

Further:

Toronto Pearson International Airport Fire Chief Todd Aitken said Monday night that the runway was dry and there were no crosswind conditions at the time of the crash.

There was nothing for Minneapolis ATC to warn the flight about.
 

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That sounds like an issue originating with Toronto Pearson International Airport, which -- maybe this is a cRaZy guess! -- is not operating under the auspices of the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.

Meaning that FAA layoffs had nought to do with what happened.
No, it's all on Minnapolis airport. Everything to do with said layoffs.

this just happened. it's the second wave of this many.

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I quoted from the first article in the thread, just then. Runway was dry and no cross-winds when the crash happened. No number of employees at Minneapolis ATC would have seen it coming, because the destination didn't even see it coming.

Which means the destination would not have warned Minneapolis; consequently, Minneapolis could not have warned the pilot.
 

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I quoted from the first article in the thread, just then. Runway was dry and no cross-winds when the crash happened. No number of employees at Minneapolis ATC would have seen it coming, because the destination didn't even see it coming.

Which means the destination would not have warned Minneapolis; consequently, Minneapolis could not have warned the pilot.
40-60 mph crosswinds and the runway was icy as shit. The plane flipped over from the crosswind.

That's what happened and they had icy weather all day.

Give it a rest.
 

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I reiterate, this quote comes from the article @LotusBud posted:

Toronto Pearson International Airport Fire Chief Todd Aitken said Monday night that the runway was dry and there were no crosswind conditions at the time of the crash.

I will grant you this, though; from the same article:

Meteorologists say that there was blowing snow in Toronto and visibility was down to 6 miles at the time of the incident, with winds at 20 mph and gusts up to 37 mph. Temperatures were well below freezing, at 17°F.

Well, 20-40 doesn't match 40-60. Question is, do we go with meteorologists' reports? Or a statement from a guy who was right there on-scene?

In any case, Minneapolis ATC wasn't unmanned (perhaps with a lonesome tumbleweed rolling through the tower). If a warning had come in from Toronto Pearson International Airport, it's not as if there was nobody there to receive it. And once the aircraft began its approach to TPIA, it was on them to warn the pilot.

Blaming Trump for this is done in service to blaming Trump, and nothing else. Period.
 
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I reiterate, this quote comes from the article @LotusBud posted:



I will grant you this, though; from the same article:



Well, 20-40 doesn't match 40-60. Question is, do we go with meteorologists' reports? Or a statement from a guy who was right there on-scene?

In any case, Minneapolis ATC wasn't unmanned (perhaps with a lonesome tumbleweed rolling through the tower). If a warning had come in from Toronto Pearson International Airport, it's not as if there was nobody there to receive it. And once the aircraft began its approach to TPIA, it was on them to warn the pilot.

Blaming Trump for this is done in service to blaming Trump, and nothing else. Period.
OMG. You are so thick.
 

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Transportation Chief Defends FAA Purge as Planes Keep Crashing​

The U.S. has experienced four serious aviation disasters since Donald Trump took office just last month—but his administration doesn’t want you to believe that the unprecedented uptick has anything to do with their government-wide staffing cuts.

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy
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Newsmax on Tuesday that “it’s rich” for people to blame the Trump administration for the plane crashes, even though they’re the ones in charge.

“To cast blame on this administration for the policy failures of the last four years and say it’s our fault is outrageous, but it’s rich,” Duffy said.

Duffy then went on to confirm that “less than 400 employees” had been laid off at the Federal Aviation Administration since last week, though he attempted to minimize the cuts by highlighting the overall staffing of the agency, which Duffy claimed sits at around 45,000 employees.

Still, the union representing FAA employees slammed the mass firing as a
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that would exhaust a burnt-out workforce “already stretched thin.”

“This decision did not consider the staffing needs of the FAA, which is already challenged by understaffing,” David Spero, national president of the Professional Aviation Safety Specialists, said in a statement. “Staffing decisions should be based on an individual agency’s mission-critical needs. To do otherwise is dangerous when it comes to public safety. And it is especially unconscionable in the aftermath of three deadly aircraft accidents in the past month.”

Before 2025, the
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involving a U.S. airliner was in 2009—but despite the disturbing trend, Trump has opted to vaguely scapegoat minorities.

After a mid-air crash in January between a passenger plane and a U.S. military Black Hawk helicopter over Reagan International Airport killed 67 people, Trump pointed a finger at diversity, equity, and inclusion programs, blaming inclusive work initiatives for the deadly lapse.

“You’re talking about extremely complex things, and if they don’t have a great brain—a great power of the brain, they’re not going to be very good at what they do and bad things will happen,” Trump said at the time.

Former National Transportation Safety Board investigators and safety advisers have pointed to the decades-long air traffic controller shortage as the underlying cause of the crashes, and told
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that the FAA should re-prioritize “aeronautical decision-making.”

Under former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg’s stewardship, the FAA increased hiring, placing 2,000 new employees in the system. But their numbers will just barely replace some 1,100 staff who are either retiring or exiting the high-stress field.

“That’s because nearly half of those hired in any given year will wash out of the program before they get to actually control aircraft after about three years from their initial start date,”
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reported.
 

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Transportation Chief Defends FAA Purge as Planes Keep Crashing​

The U.S. has experienced four serious aviation disasters since Donald Trump took office just last month—but his administration doesn’t want you to believe that the unprecedented uptick has anything to do with their government-wide staffing cuts.

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy
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Newsmax on Tuesday that “it’s rich” for people to blame the Trump administration for the plane crashes, even though they’re the ones in charge.

“To cast blame on this administration for the policy failures of the last four years and say it’s our fault is outrageous, but it’s rich,” Duffy said.

Duffy then went on to confirm that “less than 400 employees” had been laid off at the Federal Aviation Administration since last week, though he attempted to minimize the cuts by highlighting the overall staffing of the agency, which Duffy claimed sits at around 45,000 employees.

Still, the union representing FAA employees slammed the mass firing as a
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that would exhaust a burnt-out workforce “already stretched thin.”

“This decision did not consider the staffing needs of the FAA, which is already challenged by understaffing,” David Spero, national president of the Professional Aviation Safety Specialists, said in a statement. “Staffing decisions should be based on an individual agency’s mission-critical needs. To do otherwise is dangerous when it comes to public safety. And it is especially unconscionable in the aftermath of three deadly aircraft accidents in the past month.”

Before 2025, the
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involving a U.S. airliner was in 2009—but despite the disturbing trend, Trump has opted to vaguely scapegoat minorities.

After a mid-air crash in January between a passenger plane and a U.S. military Black Hawk helicopter over Reagan International Airport killed 67 people, Trump pointed a finger at diversity, equity, and inclusion programs, blaming inclusive work initiatives for the deadly lapse.

“You’re talking about extremely complex things, and if they don’t have a great brain—a great power of the brain, they’re not going to be very good at what they do and bad things will happen,” Trump said at the time.

Former National Transportation Safety Board investigators and safety advisers have pointed to the decades-long air traffic controller shortage as the underlying cause of the crashes, and told
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that the FAA should re-prioritize “aeronautical decision-making.”

Under former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg’s stewardship, the FAA increased hiring, placing 2,000 new employees in the system. But their numbers will just barely replace some 1,100 staff who are either retiring or exiting the high-stress field.

“That’s because nearly half of those hired in any given year will wash out of the program before they get to actually control aircraft after about three years from their initial start date,”
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reported.
“Antifa and D.E.I.!!!!” Typical Trump Twit
 

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You have no fucking idea what you're talking about, let alone what I'm talking about. Tool..
Let's fix that:

"I apologize; you're right. I didn't read my source. I just want so badly to blame Trump for literally everything that I saw the headline and reacted to it in knee-jerk fashion, as I so often do.
I'd say that I'm going to try harder to avoid doing that in the future, but let me be uncharacteristically honest: I'm not going to. I am so dogmatic, so hyper-partisan, that I have neither the will nor the strength of character required to even make a good-faith attempt to resist my conditioning at this point.
Instead, I'm going to continue to post articles without fully reading them, then resort to juvenile and transparent ad hominem attacks against anyone who points out details I missed which even slightly contradict my venomous, irrational responses -- especially if it's you, because to my cultish mindset, you are guilty of Wrongthink."

That's how you'd respond if you possessed even a sliver of honesty and integrity. You don't, of course; you're mentally disabled that way. So I've done it for you.

Call it an act of philanthropy on my part.
 
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Let's fix that:

"I apologize; you're right. I didn't read my source. I just want so badly to blame Trump for literally everything that I saw the headline and reacted to it in knee-jerk fashion, as I so often do.
I'd say that I'm going to try harder to avoid doing that in the future, but let me be uncharacteristically honest: I'm not going to. I am so dogmatic, so hyper-partisan, that I have neither the will nor the strength of character required to even make a good-faith attempt to resist my conditioning at this point.
Instead, I'm going to continue to post articles without fully reading them, then resort to juvenile and transparent ad hominem attacks against anyone who points out details I missed which even slightly contradict my venomous, irrational responses -- especially if it's you, because to my cultish mindset, you are guilty of Wrongthink."

That's how you'd respond if you possessed even a sliver of honesty and integrity. You don't, of course; you're mentally disabled that way. So I've done it for you.

Call it an act of philanthropy on my part.
You still don't understand the point of my post. Incredible.
 

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You still don't understand the point of my post. Incredible.
Oh, I understand it perfectly.

"Cutting the f4t will lead to plagues of locusts and rivers turning into blood! Look at this sentence or two I found in an article I didn't read the entirety of -- this proves it! It's the end times, and Trump is Satan! We're all going to boil for all eternity in a lake of Spaghetti-Os because you cattle deprived our Savior-God the State of a little bit of its ability to pillage!"

You may not have the courage (and certainly lack the vocabulary) to put it like that, but that's the sum total inference to be drawn from your posts since the election.
 
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Oh, I understand it perfectly.

"Cutting the f4t will lead to plagues of locusts and rivers turning into blood! Look at this sentence or two I found in an article I didn't read the entirety of -- this proves it! It's the end times, and Trump is Satan! We're all going to boil for all eternity in a lake of Spaghetti-Os because you cattle deprived our Savior-God the State of a little bit of its ability to pillage!"

You may not have the courage (and certainly lack the vocabulary) to put it like that, but that's the sum total inference to be drawn from your posts since the election.
Clearly, you do not.

Keep telling yourself you do, though. That'll make it true. Just like Musk's claims that millions of centenarians are getting SS.
 

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BTW, I know you fuckers dismiss everything I post without even reading it. It never occurred to me that you don't even read the shit you post, though.

I quote from their sources all the time.

I think they might read the stuff....but they do not understand.