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I see you hate it when someone points out the obvious truth about how you people are filled with hate.

Do you especially hate it when the fundamental leftist narrative is challenged that holds any and all opposition to the progressive agenda is rooted in hatred and racism?

I know such a cognitive dissonance would bother me after 4 years of hating the Bad Orange Man.
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Could you please explain the strawman here? I'm genuinely asking because I completely see what Reggie is saying and I'm not seeing a strawman. I'm not saying this to be combative at all, if there is a strawman here I would like to see how, is all.

Definition first: A straw man argument is a deliberate misrepresentation of an opinion or viewpoint, designed to be as easy as possible to refute. Usually it's constructed by putting words in the opponent's mouth or by surmising (without evidence) what the opponent believes.

In the Reggie post there are only 3 sentences, none of which is a simple straightforward argument Nevertheless #1 and #3 are both straw men. #2 attempts to set up the nonexistent "cognitive dissonance" of #3 by making a very gaseous claim about a nonexistent "fundamental leftist narrative" and making a "whatabout this" question of it, but while it's kind of ornate and wordy, it's still essential to the erection of Straw Man #3.

The straw man of #1 should be obvious even though it's complicated by the secondary false claim at the end which I colored red for you and the actual straw man I colored green.

The straw man of #3 is the one I called out as the oldest one in the book. It's created by imputing not one but TWO undocumented opinions to the opponent, opinions that are clearly not quite congruous, and then diagnosing the opponent as being ate up with cognitive dissonance and therefore mentally incompetent.
 

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I see you hate it when someone points out the obvious truth about how you people are filled with hate.

Do you especially hate it when the fundamental leftist narrative is challenged that holds any and all opposition to the progressive agenda is rooted in hatred and racism?

I know such a cognitive dissonance would bother me after 4 years of hating the Bad Orange Man.
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Could you please explain the strawman here? I'm genuinely asking because I completely see what Reggie is saying and I'm not seeing a strawman. I'm not saying this to be combative at all, if there is a strawman here I would like to see how, is all.

Definition first: A straw man argument is a deliberate misrepresentation of an opinion or viewpoint, designed to be as easy as possible to refute. Usually it's constructed by putting words in the opponent's mouth or by surmising (without evidence) what the opponent believes.

In the Reggie post there are only 3 sentences, none of which is a simple straightforward argument Nevertheless #1 and #3 are both straw men. #2 attempts to set up the nonexistent "cognitive dissonance" of #3 by making a very gaseous claim about a nonexistent "fundamental leftist narrative" and making a "whatabout this" question of it, but while it's kind of ornate and wordy, it's still essential to the erection of Straw Man #3.

The straw man of #1 should be obvious even though it's complicated by the secondary false claim at the end which I colored red for you and the actual straw man I colored green.

The straw man of #3 is the one I called out as the oldest one in the book. It's created by imputing not one but TWO undocumented opinions to the opponent, opinions that are clearly not quite congruous, and then diagnosing the opponent as being ate up with cognitive dissonance and therefore mentally incompetent.

It wasn't an argument, it was an observation.

Like if I point out "hey what gives? You get unessesarily angry when we discuss this topic, why is that?" That's not really an argument.

I've also noticed the same thing he said. I mean.....you got people doxxing, harrassing, trying to get people fired, punching KIDS....all based on strawmen they've either created or were told about other political parties.

Most everything I have seen about "the right"(which is a huge pool where everyone not left is tossed) is a strawman. And those strawmen seem to be a free pass for some pretty rabid hatred.

Like Admin just claiming people who disagree with him are racists, so doxxing them is okay. Or calling Elder the "black face of white supremacy"(<--- the strawman) and thusly justifying wearing a gorilla mask and throwing eggs at him (<---the rabid hate). This is an ongoing theme. When it gets pointed out, the usual response is gaslighting.
 

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I see you hate it when someone points out the obvious truth about how you people are filled with hate.

Do you especially hate it when the fundamental leftist narrative is challenged that holds any and all opposition to the progressive agenda is rooted in hatred and racism?

I know such a cognitive dissonance would bother me after 4 years of hating the Bad Orange Man.
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Could you please explain the strawman here? I'm genuinely asking because I completely see what Reggie is saying and I'm not seeing a strawman. I'm not saying this to be combative at all, if there is a strawman here I would like to see how, is all.

Definition first: A straw man argument is a deliberate misrepresentation of an opinion or viewpoint, designed to be as easy as possible to refute. Usually it's constructed by putting words in the opponent's mouth or by surmising (without evidence) what the opponent believes.

In the Reggie post there are only 3 sentences, none of which is a simple straightforward argument Nevertheless #1 and #3 are both straw men. #2 attempts to set up the nonexistent "cognitive dissonance" of #3 by making a very gaseous claim about a nonexistent "fundamental leftist narrative" and making a "whatabout this" question of it, but while it's kind of ornate and wordy, it's still essential to the erection of Straw Man #3.

The straw man of #1 should be obvious even though it's complicated by the secondary false claim at the end which I colored red for you and the actual straw man I colored green.

The straw man of #3 is the one I called out as the oldest one in the book. It's created by imputing not one but TWO undocumented opinions to the opponent, opinions that are clearly not quite congruous, and then diagnosing the opponent as being ate up with cognitive dissonance and therefore mentally incompetent.


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Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.
 

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It wasn't an argument, it was an observation.

Like if I point out "hey what gives? You get unessesarily angry when we discuss this topic, why is that?" That's not really an argument.

First off, in debate and in logic, "argument" has a specific meaning that's different than in just shooting the shit conversation.

But even so, it IS an argument because you qualify "you get angry" by adding the word "unnecessarily" which means you are taking a stance about how that person is permitted to feel.


Most everything I have seen about "the right"(which is a huge pool where everyone not left is tossed) is a strawman. And those strawmen seem to be a free pass for some pretty rabid hatred.

I'm not sure that "the right" or "the left" would qualify as a straw man without some sort of contextual additions since both terms are "unloaded" absent any other content. But if that's your definition of "the right" why do you not offer the same definition to "the left"?
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

It's awfully repetitive. I think he has it as a copy and paste file, he simply fills in the blank with the relevant topic.
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

It's awfully repetitive. I think he has it as a copy and paste file, he simply fills in the blank with the relevant topic.

So I've heard.
 

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Thread to Reggie with a strong showing by our all time favorite liberal destroyer, Dove
 

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It wasn't an argument, it was an observation.

Like if I point out "hey what gives? You get unessesarily angry when we discuss this topic, why is that?" That's not really an argument.

First off, in debate and in logic, "argument" has a specific meaning that's different than in just shooting the shit conversation.

But even so, it IS an argument because you qualify "you get angry" by adding the word "unnecessarily" which means you are taking a stance about how that person is permitted to feel.


Most everything I have seen about "the right"(which is a huge pool where everyone not left is tossed) is a strawman. And those strawmen seem to be a free pass for some pretty rabid hatred.

I'm not sure that "the right" or "the left" would qualify as a straw man without some sort of contextual additions since both terms are "unloaded" absent any other content. But if that's your definition of "the right" why do you not offer the same definition to "the left"?

Okay so why is it nessesary to respond with anger to people who ask questions or who point out things about your stance they find to be problematic? You truly think its nessesary to lash out at people for that?

So you are saying it's okay to be angry and abusive towards other people who either do not understand or agree with a stance? One that would impact their life as well? And the person on the receiving end of this behavior isnt allowed to call it unessesary because that is telling someone how they should feel? Really?

Does this logic extend to physical abuse or just verbal and mental abuse?

I said every position taken by a person who gets labeled "right wing" is always turned into a strawman. Like immigration. Those who are "right wing" are accused of being against immigration and accused of being xenophobic or racist.....when in reality they just oppose open borders and illegal immigration due because of the abuses it brings and the burden on tax payers.

The Democrats/progs always ignore the arguments people have in favor of blaming "racism" or "hate". That's why most of STILL have to specify we do not oppose immigration, just illegal immigration or unfettered open borders.

Or the anti abortion position. A "rightie" can be very specific why they oppose abortion. They can cite facts to support their arguments. And what is the response? It's always strawman bullshit like "you just wanna control women!" Or all kinds of bullshit that never addressed the actual arguments.

That's just two examples. Literally every single position those of us not dem/prog(who get that right wing label) have is met with strawmen arguments, gaslighting and yes....unessesary anger. I do have a right to my boundaries and I'm not being angry and abusive towards another person, I do have the right to decide a person's actions towards me is not acceptable.

Unessesary anger is something we see a lot of from those in the dem/prog pool. It's completely unessesary to attack and insult people who just disagree with you. It's sad this sort of behavior has been so normalized that punching a kid in the head for having a Trump sign didnt spark a mutual outrage and that political violence has become a normal occurence.

That doxxing people on the internet because they are committing thought crimes is a thing. Calling them "racists" is a strawman.

We are definately far from the only ones to observe leftwing hatred is so out control none of us even understand wtf you guys DO stand for, even reading leftwing forums all you see is hate and lies spewed about the other "side". Any rational person would just assume it's a cold civil war where those on the left just want to eliminate other parties. All we ever see is anger, hate and strawmen. Violence. Harrassment. From shooting senators at softball games to punching kids to doxxing people to all out destroying innocent communities.

I dont even think leftists know what they want anymore they just hate everyone else. Gurk observing that isnt an argument....its stating what we all see that you guys are somehow completely blind to. And it's not just here this observation has been made. I mean it's difficult just to have conversations with any of you.
 
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Okay so why is it nessesary to respond with anger ... ?

Anger is never necessary, and further it's never helpful to either party. I've never said otherwise, nor am I able to have a serious conversation with you if you're continually petting THAT dog and it's not even in the room.

Twenty-five hundred years ago the classical Greeks developed Rhetoric (which includes Debate) and Logic. Ever since, societies have come and gone but have chosen those disciplines as indispensable elements of public and private discourse. No one has successfully improved on them, not after all those centuries.

However, we now find ourselves in a world where public and private discourse bear only the slightest resemblance to those disciplines as the Greeks passed them down to us, and too many have the mouth for such discourse without the wit for it. I could make a case that the only gift of the Athenians that we moderns seem to have any use for is the art of butt fucking, and chances are we ain't doing THAT right either.
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

You used the same dismount way back at Bad Yahoo when I schooled you on Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School and the Cultural Marxism that infects so much of the American Left.

Then you ran away.
 

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Okay so why is it nessesary to respond with anger ... ?

Anger is never necessary, and further it's never helpful to either party. I've never said otherwise, nor am I able to have a serious conversation with you if you're continually petting THAT dog and it's not even in the room.

Twenty-five hundred years ago the classical Greeks developed Rhetoric (which includes Debate) and Logic. Ever since, societies have come and gone but have chosen those disciplines as indispensable elements of public and private discourse. No one has successfully improved on them, not after all those centuries.

However, we now find ourselves in a world where public and private discourse bear only the slightest resemblance to those disciplines as the Greeks passed them down to us, and too many have the mouth for such discourse without the wit for it. I could make a case that the only gift of the Athenians that we moderns seem to have any use for is the art of butt fucking, and chances are we ain't doing THAT right either.

According to you people with your Critical Race Theory, the bolded part above is clearly "white supremacist racism."

Turn in your Prog Card.
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

You used the same dismount way back at Bad Yahoo when I schooled you on Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School and the Cultural Marxism that infects so much of the American Left.

Then you ran away.

Although I'm familiar with the YaBB forum, I rarely posted there and eschewed politics and ass hats. You have conflated me with some other poster, and your gasbag claims cannot be verified.
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

You used the same dismount way back at Bad Yahoo when I schooled you on Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School and the Cultural Marxism that infects so much of the American Left.

Then you ran away.

I'm fairly sure old Peaches has even tried denying that Cultural Marxism exists in the past.
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

You used the same dismount way back at Bad Yahoo when I schooled you on Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School and the Cultural Marxism that infects so much of the American Left.

Then you ran away.

Although I'm familiar with the YaBB forum, I rarely posted there and eschewed politics and ass hats. You have conflated me with some other poster, and your gasbag claims cannot be verified.

Oh give it up ffs.... :facepalm:
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

You used the same dismount way back at Bad Yahoo when I schooled you on Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School and the Cultural Marxism that infects so much of the American Left.

Then you ran away.

I'm fairly sure old Peaches has even tried denying that Cultural Marxism exists in the past.


That was the argument he tried to use. Just like how they claim Antifa is "just an idea."
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

You used the same dismount way back at Bad Yahoo when I schooled you on Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School and the Cultural Marxism that infects so much of the American Left.

Then you ran away.
What a coincidence eh?
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

You used the same dismount way back at Bad Yahoo when I schooled you on Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School and the Cultural Marxism that infects so much of the American Left.

Then you ran away.

Although I'm familiar with the YaBB forum, I rarely posted there and eschewed politics and ass hats. You have conflated me with some other poster, and your gasbag claims cannot be verified.

Oh give it up ffs.... :facepalm:
I'm saying. It's so pathetic for Mr Softy cock here to continue with this lame charade but alas that's another trait he's known for. Never missing an opportunity to fuck himself royally up his own ass and bleat on about it for years

Like he did that time he told an entire board he was retiring for the evening to go masturbate to a movie with a then 12 year old Natalie Portman
 

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Look what I made Levon do!

Don't like it when I point out the hate that rules you people, huh Levon? That's not a deliberate ,misrepresentation, it's simply a statement of fact.

You people hate. Hate drives every aspect of your ideology and narrative, from the last four years of non-stop hatred and lies that you all gleefully engaged in because you all hated Donald Trump and all of his supporters, to this very day where you're all directing you hate towards "the unVaxxed" because your betters have told you you should hate them.

Silly cuck, you did no such thing. Dove asked me to explain something I said in a post. I obliged her.

The rest of your post is just so much shitposting, and undeserving of further comment.

You used the same dismount way back at Bad Yahoo when I schooled you on Antonio Gramsci, the Frankfurt School and the Cultural Marxism that infects so much of the American Left.

Then you ran away.

I'm fairly sure old Peaches has even tried denying that Cultural Marxism exists in the past.


That was the argument he tried to use. Just like how they claim Antifa is "just an idea."
THe guy is the ultimate spaz