Russian Oligarch on interfering in US elections

[Dove]

I didn't say that though, did I?

If anyone knows anything about Putin is that he interferes in other democracies. He has all over Europe, beyond the US.

You know what the Russians do best? They gaslight. Even when they tell you exactly what they're doing, people like you say "Naaaaaaaaaaaaah, it's sarcasm".

No but you guys are way over focused on Russia when our real problem is China.

Your primary language is gaslighting, "Lil".

 

[Dove]

It is more mainstream in the conservative side of politics in this country. Quora? Jesus Christ on a hockey stick...

He just showed your one sided view and hypocrisy.

 

[Lily]

So the clickbait and troll farms in Russia are just more nefarious because...?

What have they done?
It's already been proven that in 2016 those "troll (clickbait) farms" only showed a few ads on Facebook -some promoting every candidate- half of which didn't even run until after the election.

What have they done? Try to put in anti-democratic forces in France, England, the US and other Central and Eastern European countries. As much as you hate the West, it is much worse in other places.

If that's what you call "interference" you must really really hate 'Murica's foreign policy eh?

Yet oddly enough I never see you go off whole heartedly on our own imperialism, militancy, and interference.

Could it be that you just don't like Russians?
Gee, I wonder where you got *that* idea? LoL



Putin is a noob when it comes to interfering with other countries.
He could take a few lessons from good ol' USA in that department.
Ask Haiti, Venezuela, Honduras, Mexico, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Syria, Libya, Somalia, etc. etc.

Even when Russia tried to fuck with Afghanistan did they invade and stay there interfering with them for two decades? I don't think it was two whole decades was it? We're *still* fucking with Afghanistan only now it's warfare by economic means (sanctions) instead of literally blowing shit up.

Putin is small time when it comes to interference and that's just a fact.

You've been conditioned to see the world a certain way (very West-centric with 'Murica as the planet's unimpeachable savior and anyone pushing back against our meddling as an "enemy") and I only hope sooner or later you manage to pull off those blinders and see things as they actually are.

Come on over to reality... we has cookies.

Yes, we have behaved like an Empire. We have intervened all over the world, that I'm well aware of and have condemned and voted, and when much younger worked at NGOs to combat. The problems become clearer as I've grown as an individual. There is a lot more nuance and complexity to economic problems and the despair they bring.

The US didn't make Venezuela into the shithole it has become when it was once one of the strongest economies in Latin America. See, I take in new information and see what exists. Venezuela is now one of the countries where people are fleeing from in hunger. Yet, it is one of the countries in LA with the most resources. How do you explain that? What's happening in Venezuela isn't on the US this time. It's on Chavistas and their corruption.

Boric in Chile has even put on the breaks on completely throwing out capitalism. It is objectively clear that capitalism is tied to economic progress across the planet. Are there problems with unregulated/unfettered capitalism? Fucking A. But throwing out the baby with the bath water isn't the answer.

Is that your argument for Afghanistan? They did it for a shorter time than we did? Are you serious? They only left because the USSR economic system was a joke.

You've convinced yourself that you know more than I do about our foreign policy. You even rolled your eyes at the idea that US foreign policy in the Middle East as in pertains to the Israelis is driven by oil.

The only thing I wish for people like you is a little bit more humility when posting to others.

 

[Dove]

Can we establish what "democracy" means when a US democrat voter says it?

Because they literally use it as a euphemism for "our power".

They dont actually mean "democracy". The minute other parties participate in democracy they scream about hate speech, treason, insurrection, and how democracy is being threatened by other parties existing.

I'm not sure the "side" that took actual politcal prisoners and tried to criminalize a protest they didnt like should even be able to say "democracy".

And Oak if you voted Biden you legit voted for war. And possible nuclear war. Thems the facts. The very week Biden took office he bombed civilians. Smh.

 

[Lily]

He just showed your one sided view and hypocrisy.

Actually, he did not.

 

[Lily]

Can we establish what "democracy" means when a US democrat voter says it?

Because they literally use it as a euphemism for "our power".

They dont actually mean "democracy". The minute other parties participate in democracy they scream about hate speech, treason, insurrection, and how democracy is being threatened by other parties existing.

I'm not sure the "side" that took actual politcal prisoners and tried to criminalize a protest they didnt like should even be able to say "democracy".

Coming from the people that went to the US capital to wrest an election from the people of the US, you have fucking balls to say what you say.

Yeah, you people don't want power. You just sit innocently with your palms in prayer...lmfao

You think people are stupid.

You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

 

[Lily]

No but you guys are way over focused on Russia when our real problem is China.

Your primary language is gaslighting, "Lil".

China is already falling apart and they did it to themselves. You don't know shit from crap. You ought to get beyond FB for your politics, ding-a-ling.