"Tax teh rich!!"

[Joe]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

 

[Dove]

All taxation is theft.

The paradigm of taxation by the "state" was first developed in lower Mesopotamia and first perfected by Sargon of Akkad in the 23rd century BC.

Every State since then has adhered to the same paradigm of "legal theft" from the productive in society in the name of the "common good" as defined by the State that was "legally" stealing other people's wealth.

Every State in recorded history since the time of Sargon has eventually collapsed because States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place.

We have long passed the point here in the US, and in most Western 1st World countries, where half the population or more of bloated leech parasites are being supported by the rest of us just trying to make our way and pay our taxes and be left alone.

It will not go well when the West finally collapses. I blame Leftist vermin. Most all of them suck their livings from the taxpayers.

Any other questions about taxation?

Unfortuantely Rennel/Reggie, this attitude of undertaxing ccertain groups, such as Big Tech, has led to this monopoly they have, and excessive concentration of power where they bully the Right in America and fuck them around, right? Just like zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Sergei Brun of google do to control and manipulate these guys. Plus they crush their competition like Parler into submission.

You think low taxation rates benefit upper income earners and bashes the poor, but in fact it's marginalized the Right or Conservatives in America too.

I don't know the benefits of loweiring tax rates to the point where it grants certain elites absolute and unlimited power over everyone.

You can read the words but their basic meaning eludes you ... is that a Canadian thing, Joe?

It's not taxation which collapses an economy or civilization, it's failing to pay attention to the fundamentals and undertaking funny money economic policies.

What we've been doing since 1980 when Ronald Reagan was president.

Like driving up the national debt way beyond its ability to pay it back.

Or printing money instead of having real money on hand.

Like not balancing the budget.

So whether the society gets the money from taxation or actualy economic output, when it failes to balance the books and then prints fake money to cover the costs/shortfall, that's when it gets into trouble.

Isn't that what George W Bush said after your country posted the largest surpluses in history?

Said something about fuzzy math, he wanted massive tax cuts so the deficits would go up and so that the corrupt bastard could wage all those wars in the middle east and make the USA go broke.

did poor people cause the USA to go broke within 20 short years?

Did they wage all those overseas wars?

did they ask to serve and die in them?

USA and other nations too living way beyond their means.

thinking they don't have to pay the taxes needed for the services they get.

BTW, this includes the poor as well.

If all of us paid for the actual services we get - police, fixing water/sewer pipes, fire;/ambulance, our taxes would be much much. higher.

You can't get something for nothing and if it's all financed on debt, then we're all living on borrowed time.

Sorry, Joe. Couldn't read it all and besides, I have already explained what ALL taxation is:

Theft.

All of it.

Since the time of Sargon no government, no State, anywhere at any time has created or employed a single person who created wealth from nothing.

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

Not one.

Ever.

Anywhere.

They sure do destroy a lot of lives though.

Look at CPS. Way too much unchecked power over vulnerable populations. Then they pay people to babysit these kids.....most of which should not have been removed.

Ripping kids out of homes where mom is just poor, and paying child abusers to molest them.

That's the shit we get for the money they steal.

Allowing and enabling fucking RIOTS because they can just get tax money to fix shit with. Nope. I LOVE that Trump flat out said no tax dollars to any cities that refused federal help to deal with riots. At least he was fair to the people.

 

[Lokmar]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

 

[Lily]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

 

[Admin.]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

you're stewpid.

 

[Dove]

Yeah we are all stewpidz dummy dums with teh trumptardation.

Everything was so awesome in this country and then us dummy stewpy far right extremists just jumped on the trumptard train cuz teh blacks. And teh immegrintz

We just wanna ruin teh leftwing utopia cuz fuck all of us. We wanna protect teh whiteness.

Busted

 

[LotusBud]

Meanwhile........


Hundreds of world leaders, powerful politicians, billionaires, celebrities, religious leaders and drug dealers have been hiding their investments in mansions, exclusive beachfront property, yachts and other assets for the past quarter-century, according to a review of nearly 12 million files obtained from 14 firms located around the world.

The report released Sunday by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists involved 600 journalists from 150 media outlets in 117 countries. It’s being dubbed the “Pandora Papers” because the findings shed light on the previously hidden dealings of the elite and the corrupt, and how they have used offshore accounts to shield assets collectively worth trillions of dollars.

The more than 330 current and former politicians identified as beneficiaries of the secret accounts include Jordan’s King Abdullah II, former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair, Czech Republic Prime Minister Andrej Babis, Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta, Ecuador’s President Guillermo Lasso, and associates of both Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The billionaires called out in the report include Turkish construction mogul Erman Ilicak and Robert T. Brockman, the former CEO of software maker Reynolds & Reynolds.

Many of the accounts were designed to evade taxes and conceal assets for other shady reasons, according to the report.

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Yes. And what did Trump do about that? Oh, yeah. He gave rich people a permanent tax cut, and middle class workers got a temporary cut.

 

[The Prowler]

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

Assuming people only have their own personal best interests at heart is such a left-wing thing....

 

[Dove]

Meanwhile........


Hundreds of world leaders, powerful politicians, billionaires, celebrities, religious leaders and drug dealers have been hiding their investments in mansions, exclusive beachfront property, yachts and other assets for the past quarter-century, according to a review of nearly 12 million files obtained from 14 firms located around the world.

The report released Sunday by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists involved 600 journalists from 150 media outlets in 117 countries. It’s being dubbed the “Pandora Papers” because the findings shed light on the previously hidden dealings of the elite and the corrupt, and how they have used offshore accounts to shield assets collectively worth trillions of dollars.

The more than 330 current and former politicians identified as beneficiaries of the secret accounts include Jordan’s King Abdullah II, former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair, Czech Republic Prime Minister Andrej Babis, Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta, Ecuador’s President Guillermo Lasso, and associates of both Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The billionaires called out in the report include Turkish construction mogul Erman Ilicak and Robert T. Brockman, the former CEO of software maker Reynolds & Reynolds.

Many of the accounts were designed to evade taxes and conceal assets for other shady reasons, according to the report.

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Yes. And what did Trump do about that? Oh, yeah. He gave rich people a permanent tax cut, and middle class workers got a temporary cut.

Temporary because of Biden.

I cant believe you guys believe shit from actual scamming liars.

How do you not get tax cuts benefit everyone? It lowers costs and everything. People wont heard and hide their wealth if it being jacked by the government.

 

[Lily]

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

Assuming people only have their own personal best interests at heart is such a left-wing thing....

I assume stupid people are stupid. Like you. The wealthy always have their own personal best interests in mind. ALWAYS and will forever.

 

[Dove]

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

Assuming people only have their own personal best interests at heart is such a left-wing thing....

What gets me is how they assume the worst of everyone.

They know power and money corrupts. They know the monoparty establishment scre the people.

So.. .what's their solution? Giving more money, more power and more control to the corrupt establishment that is causing our problems. Makes sense. Like trying to cure cancer with more cancer.

They cant get past their hate of Trump no matter what. They ENJOY it, they dont want to dislike him less.....so they make an active effort to hold onto their dislike of him. And dont recognize this is being propagandized. Or they do recognize it but want to believe it's for the best anyway.

So so wrong. Progressives have become purely divisive and no longer represent the people they claim to represent. They pretty well kicked the dirt in the faces of the ones they are supposed to be about.

 

[Lily]

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

Assuming people only have their own personal best interests at heart is such a left-wing thing....

What gets me is how they assume the worst of everyone.

They know power and money corrupts. They know the monoparty establishment scre the people.

So.. .what's their solution? Giving more money, more power and more control to the corrupt establishment that is causing our problems. Makes sense. Like trying to cure cancer with more cancer.

You know what doesn't get you? A job, motherhood and a life outside these forums.

 

[Joe]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

I think businesses or people who create employment locally or spend their own money by improving their communities should get tax breaks tho.

 

[Lily]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

I think businesses or people who create employment locally or spend their own money by improving their communities should get tax breaks tho.

Depends on how they do it.

 

[Joe]

There is another problem which is endemic to most of Latin America which amounts to nothing more than weaponizing the government on behave of wealthy special interests. Say you want to build a hotel, it could literally be anything, an apartment building, a shopping mall, a port, a factory, what ever... Well, the wealthy guy who owns the hotel down the streets doesn't want free market competition and he knows if there was competition he would have to either lower prices or pay more to upgrade his hotel so that it can compete and he definitely doesn't want to do that. So he gives bribes to the local government offices who then block the permits for his competitors and thus can keep his monopoly without anyone competing with him.

In so much of Latin America that is how it is done and that causes mass economic harm because people are forced to over pay for just about everything, there is less development over all, which means less work for workers, and less over all tax revenue. But the officials got their personal bribe so they don't care even though it directly harms the entire society.

Yeah, I heard of stories of gringos going in feet first, the guvs there see that, once they are all in, then they put the hook out and trap them. Then the project subsequently gets abandoned because of legal difficulties. Then they do this over and over again to the next unsuspecting sucker.

I guess there are alotta people to pay off in the food chain down further south, eh?

It is not just Latin America. Tons of British had the same problem when they buy a house in Spain thinking everything was legal but the title some how becomes contested. It is a common scam which cheats retirees out of their lives savings.

...the perils of foreigners purchasing real estate abroad:




The country might just decide to take it away from them.

Reggie/Rennel's worst fears cometh true.

 

[Oerdin]

The ANC has looted self Africa and is also ruining the economy. They have long spoken about how they want to steal all the land and assets of everyone who is not an ANC voter.

 

[Lokmar]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

 

[Dove]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

They dont listen.

They only PRETEND to advocate for the poor and working. As soon as poor or working people start trying to advocate for themselves by pointing out the policy problems that are harming them? They just lash out and start calling people stupid or selfish.

They want to use the downtrodden to LOOK like they care. To feel good about THEMSELVES.

They dont care how it actually impacts anyone.

Look at the riots ffs. Yeah if you destroy resources for the poor/working....that's gonna bring JUSTICE!!

They are just sanctimonious snobs trying to fill a void in themselves at the expense of those they view as beneath. They want to appear to have their finger on the pulse.

 

[Lily]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

I know you're stupid enough to think that all the taxes you pay are to the Feds. When "they" say those things, it's about FEDERAL taxes, they have no say in state taxes, sales, or property taxes, dumb motherfucker.

 

[Oerdin]

He never even claimed that, Oak. Try to atleast be a little honest. It would be a refreshing change.

 

[Joe]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

You make a good point about that people should learn to develop some self-sufficiency skills such as the example you've cited. Like a home-based or part time/occasional biz - such as selling at craft fairs, Church bazaars, whatever. Get some side income/hustles going.

I've done some occasional freelance work from home, but nothing serious.

tho I think I'm getting more back into it again and give it go/whirl again.

 

[Lokmar]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

I know you're stupid enough to think that all the taxes you pay are to the Feds. When "they" say those things, it's about FEDERAL taxes, they have no say in state taxes, sales, or property taxes, dumb motherfucker.

Stupid assed bitch, I live in a democRAT state, therefore state or federal have no fucking meaning. Its ALL 100% you people!!! You fucking democRATs always promise relief but it never happens! Trump actually lowered my taxes a bit albeit not by a significant amount.

 

[Lokmar]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

you're stewpid.

You eat nigger dix in hell, faggit.

 

[Dove]

 

[Lily]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

 

[Lokmar]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.

 

[Joe]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

I think a good way to renew Capitlalism and keep it viable, is to force these Bezos/Gates/Steve Jobs characters to give up most of their wealth when the DIE. Let 'em live high off the hog while they're alive, acquire anything they want, but when they die, then can live a billion or so for each child or spouse, but then the rest has to either go into public works, venture captal funds for aspiring entrepreunrs, infrastructure projects of their choosing for which they will be allowed to have them in their name for posterity. Any event, it benefits everyone, the society, the billionaire, his children, spouse family whatever so they're taken care of, but the money is reinvested back into the society so the cylce is able to repeat itself for successive generations.so it keeps the capitalist system going and allows the NEXT generation to spawn/create the next group of billionaires, where upon when they die, they pass the bulk of their fortunes

Poorer countries could use this system for their benefit.

this idea seems to enrage a lotta people, but a billionaire doesn't need any money when he or she is dead. Sure, take care of your children, but don't hoard it all either.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

I think a good way to renew Capitlalism and keep it viable, is to force these Bezos/Gates/Steve Jobs characters to give up most of their wealth when the DIE. Let 'em live high off the hog while they're alive, acquire anything they want, but when they die, then can live a billion or so for each child or spouse, but then the rest has to either go into public works, infrastructure projects of their choosing for which they will be allowed to have them in their name for posterity. Any event, it benefits everyone, the society, the billionaire, his children, spouse family whatever so they're taken care of, but the money is reinvested back into the society so the cylce is able to repeat itself for successive generations.so it keeps the capitalist system going and allows the generation to spawn/create the next group of billionaires, where upon when they die, they pass the bulk of their fortunes on when they die.

Poorer countries could use this system for their benefit.

this idea seems to enrage a lotta people, but a billionaire doesn't need any money when he or she is dead. Sure, take care of your children, but don't hoard it all either.

Do you know what the definition of the word "envy" means?

It was once considered one of the 7 deadly sins by primitive religious people.

 

[Lily]

I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?

Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.

Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.

You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.

But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq

You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!

Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.

But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.

Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!