The American Taliban Further erodes the wall between Church and State that our Founders Built

[Admin.]

The Supreme Court on Tuesday extended a recent streak of victories for religious interests, striking down a Maine tuition program that does not allow public funds to go to schools that promote religious instruction.

See now that's interesting since Churches are not required to pay taxes yet somehow demand the benefit of tax money... hmmmmm

They are now directly influencing our laws, that's for damn sure. Now more than ever, time to end the Church's Representation without Taxation. Tax The Churches.

 

[1Holliday1]

You are an idiot, as usual. The court literally upheld the constitutional right to practice religion. Read a summary of the decision.

Fucktard, they told a sovereign us state that they are required to fund religious schools. Now gtfo my thread and stay out!

See, this is why we need a Conspiracy Theory sub-board for conservatives.

 

[Murdy]

Supreme Court says Maine cannot deny tuition aid to religious schools

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Updated June 21, 2022 at 1:31 p.m. EDT|Published June 21, 2022 at 10:45 a.m. EDT

The Supreme Court on Tuesday extended a recent streak of victories for religious interests, striking down a Maine tuition program that does not allow public funds to go to schools that promote religious instruction.

The vote was 6 to 3, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.

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and the court’s three liberals in dissent.
It was the latest case in which the court came down on the side of religious interests when weighing the Constitution’s protection of religious exercise against its prohibition of government endorsement of religion.
The case involves an unusual program in a small state that affects only a few thousand students. But it could have greater implications as the more conservative court relaxes the constitutional line between church and state.

Under the program, jurisdictions in rural areas too sparsely populated to support secondary schools of their own can arrange to have nearby schools teach their school-age children, or the state will pay tuition to parents to send their kids to private schools. But those schools must be nonsectarian, meaning they cannot promote a faith or belief system or teach “through the lens of this faith,” in the words of the state’s department of education.

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"Look at me everybody I'm holding a Bible, just like a Christian!"

Wait until Muslims try to have tax dollars pay for their private schools.

Muslims and Jews already have private schools in Maine, dumb ass. Several were part of the lawsuit. Why are you so ignorant on every issue?

This Decision is putting State in the position of financially supporting religion, something that The USA has not, other than granting Tax Exempt Statue, for our entire history, exactly how home schooled are you?

I’m not surprised… this is now a trend of shifts into the radical right direction thanks to the trump stacked judges, given them a 6 member conservative majority.

Main is so rural that half their counties don’t even have a public high school….

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

 

[1Holliday1]

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

Why should private education be subsidized? Particularly religious...

 

[Dove]

So when do we bring back the Blue Laws, Mandate Worship Services and Ban Gay Marriages etc etc?

Um never?

How the fuck do you justify calling other people divisive and accuse them of spreading hysteria when you do EXACTLY that? You dont even take the time to even know exactly what happened. You believe the hysterical fear spreaders.

You know like how it's illegal to say "gay" in FL? Have you figured what's in that bill yet?

Because you dimwits seem to be shrugging your shoulders at a major legal precedent set yesterday, The Supreme Court Just Legislated from the Bench and altered 243 Years of American Law and History and you sheep are going along with it dutifully because a conservative court made the decision, to continue the conservatives long term plans to get public education off the grid and sell education to the highest bidder. That's not even addressing the encroachment of religious ideology in our system of laws, that this decision obviously opens the door to.

There is no such thing as a politcal court. So "conservative" means nothing. The SCOTUS doesnt legislate from the bench. They didnt here either.

And since when do you guys care about public education? Public education has declined and our general ed averages are LOW. Kids in inner cities like Detroit do not even get to learn to READ and all democrats do is block everything that could help. Like School Choice could have helped.

We have sexual identity politcs being pushed in schools and staff getting fired for having the wrong politcal beliefs.....are you joking right now?

You know Admin you claim we are "going along" with something you CLEARLY do not fully understand because it's a "conservative" SCOTUS.

However from OUR stand point, the ONLY reason you have a problem with this is because it's a "conservative" court. So you are the one politicizing the SCOTUS.

Could you take the damn time to get more info on this besides the distorted and one sided versions you are flying on? And why the fuck do you think the way you do about anyone from other parties? Do you even know what the issue WAS about the same sex marriage thing? Or do you just think "homophobic people" opposed it? Like people just didnt want same sex people to marry?

Some tax funding has always gone to these places and you didnt care or even know until media gave you this script.

Why should these places get some tax funding? You think only shit YOU agree with should be funded? People dont want to pay for peoples birth control, abortions and gender transitions but we all have to eat that but YOU and your team get to decide how our money is spent?

 

[Dove]

The Supreme Court on Tuesday extended a recent streak of victories for religious interests, striking down a Maine tuition program that does not allow public funds to go to schools that promote religious instruction.

See now that's interesting since Churches are not required to pay taxes yet somehow demand the benefit of tax money... hmmmmm

They are now directly influencing our laws, that's for damn sure. Now more than ever, time to end the Church's Representation without Taxation. Tax The Churches.

That literally how it works. The people get a say in our laws. Literally everyone has a right to have a voice in how America is governed.

And considering you are fine with Biden taking executive action to sign AWAY womens sex based rights and force us all to share spaces and sports with biological men? I'm not sure why you think you have a valid grievance.

You guys hate democracy. What you want is one party control of the entire country. Force people to adopt your values, pay for what your team wants, and to stomp out dissenting opinions.

Like I have said.....what you guys want is supremacy.

 

[Dove]

Admin found a new emoji

Maybe for once you can directly and coherently challange something I have said? Do you understand what I'm saying?

 

[Dove]

You are an idiot, as usual. The court literally upheld the constitutional right to practice religion. Read a summary of the decision.

Fucktard, they told a sovereign us state that they are required to fund religious schools. Now gtfo my thread and stay out!

See, this is why we need a Conspiracy Theory sub-board for conservatives.

Great. What was said here that is a "conspiracy theory"? Address it and debunk it.

That's how adult conversations work.

 

[1Holliday1]

Anyone know what the trifecta at Belmont paid today?

How about the quadfecta, if there is such a thing.

 

[Dove]

Anyone know what the trifecta at Belmont paid today?

Off topic post.

Can you please directly quote what was said here that you consider a conspiracy theory? I'll like to see what you think is a conspiracy theory and understand how.

Let's have an ADULT conversation.

Thanks.

 

[Murdy]

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

Why should private education be subsidized? Particularly religious...

I think that parents who actually pay tuition for private education should get an income tax break.

The public schools get paid per enrolled child and are reimbursed a daily rate that includes funds for days missed if they are excused absences here…. where is THAT money actually going if their kid is not in public school?

 

[1Holliday1]

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

Why should private education be subsidized? Particularly religious...

I think that parents who actually pay tuition for private education should get an income tax break.

The schools get paid per enrolled child and are reimbursed a daily rate that includes funds for days missed if they are excused absences here…. where is THAT money actually going if their kid is not in public school?

If I choose to walk through a woods to work rather than use the public roadway,
,.should I get a tax break?

If I choose to collect my water from a local spring rather than use tap water,
. should I get a tax break?
..or
should any related expense be mine to bear?

How about...
if I choose to buy a book rather than check it out of my local library,
. should I receive a tax break?

 

[Murdy]

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

Why should private education be subsidized? Particularly religious...

I think that parents who actually pay tuition for private education should get an income tax break.

The schools get paid per enrolled child and are reimbursed a daily rate that includes funds for days missed if they are excused absences here…. where is THAT money actually going if their kid is not in public school?

If I choose to walk through a woods to work rather than use the public roadway,
,.should I get a tax break?

If I choose to collect my water from a local spring rather than use tap water,
. should I get a tax break?
..or
should any related expense be mine to bear?

How about...
if I choose to buy a book rather than check it out of my local library,
. should I receive a tax break?

you make valid points, but then everyone would do these things just to avoid taxation

The parents paying for private education feel the need is strong enough to do it without the break and I feel that’s the difference.

 

[1Holliday1]

but then everyone would do these things to avoid tax

Much like all people will send their children to private schools to avoid taxes?
..No they won't.

 

[Admin.]

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

Why should private education be subsidized? Particularly religious...

I think that parents who actually pay tuition for private education should get an income tax break.

The schools get paid per enrolled child and are reimbursed a daily rate that includes funds for days missed if they are excused absences here…. where is THAT money actually going if their kid is not in public school?

If I choose to walk through a woods to work rather than use the public roadway,
,.should I get a tax break?

If I choose to collect my water from a local spring rather than use tap water,
. should I get a tax break?
..or
should any related expense be mine to bear?

How about...
if I choose to buy a book rather than check it out of my local library,
. should I receive a tax break?

you make valid points, but then everyone would do these things just to avoid taxation

The parents paying for private education feel the need is strong enough to do it without the break and I feel that’s the difference.

And those paying for private education, obviously have the disposable funds to do so.

 

[1Holliday1]

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

Why should private education be subsidized? Particularly religious...

I think that parents who actually pay tuition for private education should get an income tax break.

The schools get paid per enrolled child and are reimbursed a daily rate that includes funds for days missed if they are excused absences here…. where is THAT money actually going if their kid is not in public school?

If I choose to walk through a woods to work rather than use the public roadway,
,.should I get a tax break?

If I choose to collect my water from a local spring rather than use tap water,
. should I get a tax break?
..or
should any related expense be mine to bear?

How about...
if I choose to buy a book rather than check it out of my local library,
. should I receive a tax break?

you make valid points, but then everyone would do these things just to avoid taxation

The parents paying for private education feel the need is strong enough to do it without the break and I feel that’s the difference.

And those paying for private education, obviously have the disposable funds to do so.

Preeeecisely.

 

[Murdy]

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

Why should private education be subsidized? Particularly religious...

I think that parents who actually pay tuition for private education should get an income tax break.

The schools get paid per enrolled child and are reimbursed a daily rate that includes funds for days missed if they are excused absences here…. where is THAT money actually going if their kid is not in public school?

If I choose to walk through a woods to work rather than use the public roadway,
,.should I get a tax break?

If I choose to collect my water from a local spring rather than use tap water,
. should I get a tax break?
..or
should any related expense be mine to bear?

How about...
if I choose to buy a book rather than check it out of my local library,
. should I receive a tax break?

you make valid points, but then everyone would do these things just to avoid taxation

The parents paying for private education feel the need is strong enough to do it without the break and I feel that’s the difference.

And those paying for private education, obviously have the disposable funds to do so.

That’s not always true though…. some parents make huge sacrifices to put their kids through private school and college.

I’m one of them.

 

[Dove]

Why can’t they just give the parents who pay for private education the tax breaks that we have all be begging for?!??

Why should private education be subsidized? Particularly religious...

I think that parents who actually pay tuition for private education should get an income tax break.

The schools get paid per enrolled child and are reimbursed a daily rate that includes funds for days missed if they are excused absences here…. where is THAT money actually going if their kid is not in public school?

If I choose to walk through a woods to work rather than use the public roadway,
,.should I get a tax break?

If I choose to collect my water from a local spring rather than use tap water,
. should I get a tax break?
..or
should any related expense be mine to bear?

How about...
if I choose to buy a book rather than check it out of my local library,
. should I receive a tax break?

Yes. Actually.

But since we are all paying taxes whether we want to or not, this is not a one party country no matter how bad you want it to be and if your "team" can use OUR money for war, abortion facilities, peoples birth control for the purpose of birth control(because there are valid off label uses for birth control and viagra) and one party has seized all the public schools and is dictating what is taught you have no credibility whining because people with different beliefs than you are also benefiting from tax money.

I really do not get what's hard about this. We have to send funds to fucking Planned Parenthood. A partisan politcal organization that does abortions. We cant have any tax funds going towards pregnancy resource centers and pro life orgs that help women and children, and believe me thousands would rather have whatever goes towards PP to go towards out roaches that help women. Instead we send donations to help.

We have to pay for sex reassignment surgeries of people in prison.

But you guys are throwing a baby fit because some tax money goes towards hospitals and schools that are religious? GTFO. Since when does only ONE party get to spend everyones money?

And you guys are literally bitching because "these people"(tax paying Americans) get have a voice in our laws? So you think only citizens who agree with you should get to spend our money how they want and get to decide all our laws? Fuck right off with that authoritarian bullshit.

WAH you have to share the country with other people who also pay taxes.

 

[Oerdin]

You are an idiot, as usual. The court literally upheld the constitutional right to practice religion. Read a summary of the decision.

Fucktard, they told a sovereign us state that they are required to fund religious schools. Now gtfo my thread and stay out!

See, this is why we need a Conspiracy Theory sub-board for conservatives.

And yet you low I.Q. simians are the only ones spewing conspiracies in this thread. Cry some more, monkey boy. Show us how you really feel.

 

[Dove]

You are an idiot, as usual. The court literally upheld the constitutional right to practice religion. Read a summary of the decision.

Fucktard, they told a sovereign us state that they are required to fund religious schools. Now gtfo my thread and stay out!

See, this is why we need a Conspiracy Theory sub-board for conservatives.

And yet you low I.Q. simians are the only ones spewing conspiracies in this thread. Cry some more, monkey boy. Show us how you really feel.

He can't even point out what he thinks is a conspiracy theory here.

He just wants to yelp "conspiracy theory!" So he can avoid any adult discussion.

 

[1Holliday1]

And yet you

What exactly do you not understand about use of public funds to subsidize religious education?

Did you even read the article?

Breyer acknowledged that the court in the past has agreed states may provide assistance to private religious schools. “But the key word is may,” he wrote. “We have never previously held what the Court holds today, namely, that a State must (not may) use state funds to pay for religious education as part of a tuition program designed to ensure the provision of free statewide public school education.”

We got religious education creep, folks, which the 6 activist SC justices are facilitating.

In no way does denying public aid for religious education discriminate against exercise of religion.

 

[Oerdin]

Wow, he remains unable to function or take in information people show him. It is like his brain is broken. What a fucking moron.

 

[Dove]

And yet you

What exactly do you not understand about use of public funds to subsidize religious education?

Did you even read the article?

Breyer acknowledged that the court in the past has agreed states may provide assistance to private religious schools. “But the key word is may,” he wrote. “We have never previously held what the Court holds today, namely, that a State must (not may) use state funds to pay for religious education as part of a tuition program designed to ensure the provision of free statewide public school education.”

We got religious education creep, folks, which the 6 activist SC justices are facilitating.

Except you are wrong.

And also tax payers are forced to fund public schools that are pushing and teaching politcal causes, filled with activist teachers, giving sexually graphic material to children and teaching gender queer theory to young children.

And you guys think it's a big fucking joke. Tax payers should not be forced to fund a politcal cult indoctrination center that teaches kids you can be born in the wrong body and hosts drag queen shows for minors. Oh....and will "socially transition" kids behind their parents backs.

So there is definately a need to kick more assistance to alternative education options for parents who dont want their kids politically and sexually groomed into being activists.

The gloves are coming off, and that should have been predictable. The SCOTUS hasnt done a single thing out of line here. YOU guys are just angry it didnt favor your "side" here is all. You've completely lost your ability to be objective so anything decided by the SCOTUS that doesnt favor your feelings is seen as "activism". Which is a form of projection.

Not defining woman is activism. Is it hard to define "adult human female"? No. Unless you are a fucking activists who goes easy on pedos.

 

[Dove]

Wow, he remains unable to function or take in information people show him. It is like his brain is broken. What a fucking moron.

Yep. It's frustrating.

 

[1Holliday1]

Wow, he remains unable to function or take in information people show him. It is like his brain is broken. What a fucking moron.

What's clear is that activist judges are forcing the state to pay for private religious education.
Get it? You'd been showed this information several times. Are you too dim to understand it?



"The Supreme Court is out with a ruling this morning on taxpayer money and religious schools. It ruled 6 to 3 that if a state uses taxpayer money to pay for students attending nonreligious private schools, it must also use taxpayer funds to pay for attendance at religious schools. For all practical purposes, the decision invalidates provisions in 37 state constitutions that ban the direct or indirect use of taxpayer money in religious schools."

Good Lord! What about state's rights?

 

[Dove]

I wonder of Hollowbrain thinks going directly to sources and understanding an issue beyond what corporate activists media sources pump into the public is right wing extremism.

H you are choosing ignorance. Just like the vaccine shit and the "dont say gay" shit. YOU are the ones being led by activists.