The left is the most racist ideology of current times: The Change my Mind edition.

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No one divides people by race more than the woke left...

Prove me wrong...

What thoughts do you base this on?

The fact that the left divide people by race above any other characteristic...

Is that a personal opinion?

No, it's a general observation and quite obvious when you read any posts, comments or articles from left leaning types all the way from this website, Facebook and irl...

So it’s a personal opinion. I’d be interested to see those articles, web sites, etc. As you well know, that concept goes both ways. It would be equally easy to see it the opposite as you perceive it, with lots of back up. That’s all.

The entire woke belief system is "intersectionality". Its entirely identity politics. It absolutely uses race as a viscious tool of division and that's exactly why people oppose it.

They call themselves "anti racists" and label everyone not them "racists", ffs. All they ever do is pimp race and rant about some "system of whiteness" that oppresses every "person of color".

If you could separate these people from their focus on race.....they wouldnt even exist.
 
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No one divides people by race more than the woke left...

Prove me wrong...

What thoughts do you base this on?

The fact that the left divide people by race above any other characteristic...

Is that a personal opinion?

No, it's a general observation and quite obvious when you read any posts, comments or articles from left leaning types all the way from this website, Facebook and irl...

So it’s a personal opinion. I’d be interested to see those articles, web sites, etc. As you well know, that concept goes both ways. It would be equally easy to see it the opposite as you perceive it, with lots of back up. That’s all.
No, it's not a personal opinion... A personal opinion would be my thoughts only... The evidence is everywhere... Just read LotusBud's comments about "The white man/white people etc etc", it's a perfect example and quite common, if you look around...

The right usually go on about freedoms, rights and the constitution etc... They rarely address race but are defensive of their own culture, and understandably so, given the left would see it completely destroyed...

That is all... lol... What a statement to make... Do you suffer from a superiority complex, because that kind of statement suggests you have one...
 

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No. I simply dont buy into personal opinions. Include some solid back up and Im happy to listen.
 
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No. I simply dont buy into personal opinions. Include some solid back up and Im happy to listen.

I'm genuinely not interested in showing you what is already everywhere in plain sight... Have a look around yourself or don't, I don't really care... The only poor opinion is a misinformed or ignorant one... But then facts are indisputable...
 

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No one divides people by race more than the woke left...

Prove me wrong...

What thoughts do you base this on?

The fact that the left divide people by race above any other characteristic...

Is that a personal opinion?

No, it's a general observation and quite obvious when you read any posts, comments or articles from left leaning types all the way from this website, Facebook and irl...

So it’s a personal opinion. I’d be interested to see those articles, web sites, etc. As you well know, that concept goes both ways. It would be equally easy to see it the opposite as you perceive it, with lots of back up. That’s all.
No, it's not a personal opinion... A personal opinion would be my thoughts only... The evidence is everywhere... Just read LotusBud's comments about "The white man/white people etc etc", it's a perfect example and quite common, if you look around...

The right usually go on about freedoms, rights and the constitution etc... They rarely address race but are defensive of their own culture, and understandably so, given the left would see it completely destroyed...

That is all... lol... What a statement to make... Do you suffer from a superiority complex, because that kind of statement suggests you have one...


Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.
 

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No. I simply dont buy into personal opinions. Include some solid back up and Im happy to listen.

I'm genuinely not interested in showing you what is already everywhere in plain sight... Have a look around yourself or don't, I don't really care... The only poor opinion is a misinformed or ignorant one... But then facts are indisputable...

Dont get angry. I’m sorry, it’s not in plain sight. It clearly goes both ways
 

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No. I simply dont buy into personal opinions. Include some solid back up and Im happy to listen.

I'm genuinely not interested in showing you what is already everywhere in plain sight... Have a look around yourself or don't, I don't really care... The only poor opinion is a misinformed or ignorant one... But then facts are indisputable...

Dont get angry. I’m sorry, it’s not in plain sight. It clearly goes both ways
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The entire ideology is about race and identity. It's literally ALL they do.
 

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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain
 

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"Finley: Left uses race bombs to push agenda"
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It's going to be impossible to gaslight this one. The only way to think the left isnt a racist cult is to not read or listen to anything they say.
 
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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...
 

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Even articles that carry the garbage that Trump was "racially divisive"(he wasnt) they call out the left obsessive race pimping

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And the kicker is? Leftists dont even TRY to fix any real problems. They just create more.
 

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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...

The "alt right" is just the left, really.
 

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"“These mobs are not enlightened,” Lee said, referring to some groups of demonstrators who have committed acts of violence, arson and widespread property damage. “These mobs are not edgy, they’re not hip … They’re dimwitted, phony drama addicts.”

Lee had attempted to introduce a non-binding resolution in the Senate condemning mob violence, only to have that motion blocked by his Democratic colleagues. Utah’s senior senator then turned his oratory to what he believes are the roots of the urban unrest.


Among those, he said, are “… colleges and universities that punish free speech and discriminate against conservative and religious students.”

Those institutions, Lee added, have created “… a privileged, self-absorbed, crime syndicate with participation trophy graduate degrees, trying to find meaning in their empty lives by destroying things that other Americans have spent honest, productive lives building …

The whole garbage fire that is the so-called ‘woke ideology’ … depends on federal money

“The smug sneering privilege of … the whole garbage fire that is the so-called ‘woke ideology’ … depends on federal money.”"

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He is ABSOLUTELY right.
 

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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...


I see your point….

The posters here are ALL far right and extremists to some degree, which is why I used only that classification.

I tend to live in the purple, some of the red and the blue resonates and some of it doesn’t. I could definitely be a Centralist tho.
 
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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...


I see your point….

The posters here are ALL far right and extremists to some degree, which is why I used only that classification.

I tend to live in the purple, some of the red and the blue resonates and some of it doesn’t. I could definitely be a Centralist tho.

I prefer to stay distanced from most of it myself... I worked with Muslims for over 2 decades and found some of them to be good people, others not so much, but that's true anywhere and of any people...

I used to consider myself a centralist but the swing in politics over the last 20+ years now puts me a shade towards Conservative... Not my doing, I just believe countries should be run properly and not on the basis of virtue signalling or pressure from either side...

I would actually prefer governments that would run their countries like a busniess and stay out of social issues altogether...
 

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Left = everyone with a brain
Now you know full well that is certainly not true

I'm firmly on the right and run rings around the idiot lib morons on this board. Despite the fact that they can quote 6th century philosophy and work their spellcheckers to a tee
 

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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...


I see your point….

The posters here are ALL far right and extremists to some degree, which is why I used only that classification.

I tend to live in the purple, some of the red and the blue resonates and some of it doesn’t. I could definitely be a Centralist tho.

I prefer to stay distanced from most of it myself... I worked with Muslims for over 2 decades and found some of them to be good people, others not so much, but that's true anywhere and of any people...

I used to consider myself a centralist but the swing in politics over the last 20+ years now puts me a shade towards Conservative... Not my doing, I just believe countries should be run properly and not on the basis of virtue signalling or pressure from either side...

I would actually prefer governments that would run their countries like a busniess and stay out of social issues altogether...

I concur with that last part wholeheartedly.

I’m really tired of the Christians forcing their ideologies on everyone and manipulating the politicians until they bend to their will. The government has no business in our bedrooms.
 

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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...


I see your point….

The posters here are ALL far right and extremists to some degree, which is why I used only that classification.

I tend to live in the purple, some of the red and the blue resonates and some of it doesn’t. I could definitely be a Centralist tho.

I prefer to stay distanced from most of it myself... I worked with Muslims for over 2 decades and found some of them to be good people, others not so much, but that's true anywhere and of any people...

I used to consider myself a centralist but the swing in politics over the last 20+ years now puts me a shade towards Conservative... Not my doing, I just believe countries should be run properly and not on the basis of virtue signalling or pressure from either side...

I would actually prefer governments that would run their countries like a busniess and stay out of social issues altogether...

I concur with that last part wholeheartedly.

I’m really tired of the Christians forcing their ideologies on everyone and manipulating the politicians until they bend to their will. The government has no business in our bedrooms.
Classrooms either but you never seemed to have a problem with that when CRT was the propaganda piece of the day
 
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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...


I see your point….

The posters here are ALL far right and extremists to some degree, which is why I used only that classification.

I tend to live in the purple, some of the red and the blue resonates and some of it doesn’t. I could definitely be a Centralist tho.

I prefer to stay distanced from most of it myself... I worked with Muslims for over 2 decades and found some of them to be good people, others not so much, but that's true anywhere and of any people...

I used to consider myself a centralist but the swing in politics over the last 20+ years now puts me a shade towards Conservative... Not my doing, I just believe countries should be run properly and not on the basis of virtue signalling or pressure from either side...

I would actually prefer governments that would run their countries like a busniess and stay out of social issues altogether...

I concur with that last part wholeheartedly.

I’m really tired of the Christians forcing their ideologies on everyone and manipulating the politicians until they bend to their will. The government has no business in our bedrooms.

The main problem I see with your argument is that the US has long been a Christian country... I don't have a religion as I don't believe in sky fairies but I appreciate some of the basic morals that came from Christianity and ingrained themselves into the current culture in the UK...

On the flip side, I can imagine it becoming an arse ache if the religion side of things turned heavy... I don't have time for that kinda stuff... I'm happy for people to believe what they like but it should always stay a personal thing...
 

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Left = everyone with a brain
Now you know full well that is certainly not true

I'm firmly on the right and run rings around the idiot lib morons on this board. Despite the fact that they can quote 6th century philosophy and work their spellcheckers to a tee

I really don’t think you’re far right tbh... I think you prefer taking the antithetical position because you don’t want to lose that coveted “conservative” title for whatever reason.

There is a whole purple area between blue and red and this is why I will not ever commit to one side.

However, I do believe you want things to change. We ALL do.
 

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Left = everyone with a brain
Now you know full well that is certainly not true

I'm firmly on the right and run rings around the idiot lib morons on this board. Despite the fact that they can quote 6th century philosophy and work their spellcheckers to a tee

I really don’t think you’re far right tbh... I think you prefer taking the antithetical position because you don’t want to lose that coveted “conservative” title for whatever reason.

There is a whole purple area between blue and red and this is why I will not ever commit to one side.

However, I do believe you want things to change. We ALL do.
THere's where you're wrong. I am firmly hard right. I hate fucking leftists and that's not a troll either. And it was the fucking degenerate libs that actually pushed me from being middle ground to where I am today. I really do hate the left and it is squarely because they demand their views on life be adopted by everyone around them under the penalty of heresy. And I've never been one to allow anyone to demand jack shit from me. So here we are.

And the more they fucking push the more people like me they produce. you can bet on it.
 

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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...


I see your point….

The posters here are ALL far right and extremists to some degree, which is why I used only that classification.

I tend to live in the purple, some of the red and the blue resonates and some of it doesn’t. I could definitely be a Centralist tho.

I prefer to stay distanced from most of it myself... I worked with Muslims for over 2 decades and found some of them to be good people, others not so much, but that's true anywhere and of any people...

I used to consider myself a centralist but the swing in politics over the last 20+ years now puts me a shade towards Conservative... Not my doing, I just believe countries should be run properly and not on the basis of virtue signalling or pressure from either side...

I would actually prefer governments that would run their countries like a busniess and stay out of social issues altogether...

I concur with that last part wholeheartedly.

I’m really tired of the Christians forcing their ideologies on everyone and manipulating the politicians until they bend to their will. The government has no business in our bedrooms.
Classrooms either but you never seemed to have a problem with that when CRT was the propaganda piece of the day

Why are we even discussing elementary schools on an adult forum that talks about women’s anuses!?? Neither of us have school aged children.

I am supportive of equal rights for everyone… including women and minorities.

Your mother is a minority. You are a man who prides himself on family and dates black women. I have been dating and am currently living with a brown male aka minority and former navy seal. Anyone with any sense in their head would presume you would support my position on race. Maybe you’ve been exposed to the radical racist trolling forums for too long?
 

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No one divides people by race more than the woke left...

Prove me wrong...

What thoughts do you base this on?

The fact that the left divide people by race above any other characteristic...

Is that a personal opinion?

No, it's a general observation and quite obvious when you read any posts, comments or articles from left leaning types all the way from this website, Facebook and irl...

So it’s a personal opinion. I’d be interested to see those articles, web sites, etc. As you well know, that concept goes both ways. It would be equally easy to see it the opposite as you perceive it, with lots of back up. That’s all.
No, it's not a personal opinion... A personal opinion would be my thoughts only... The evidence is everywhere... Just read LotusBud's comments about "The white man/white people etc etc", it's a perfect example and quite common, if you look around...

The right usually go on about freedoms, rights and the constitution etc... They rarely address race but are defensive of their own culture, and understandably so, given the left would see it completely destroyed...

That is all... lol... What a statement to make... Do you suffer from a superiority complex, because that kind of statement suggests you have one...


Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Please tell us all how you are getting forced to be a Christian. We both know that isn't happening.
 

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Actually, we don’t want to be forced into Christian ideologies that oppress women and minorities. Whereas they only care about freedom as it pertains to them.

Who is we?...

We = the non-Far Right side of this argument. The posters who are lumped into and classified as Left.

Right = Republicans/Christians

Left = everyone with a brain

That's a strange perspective you have there...

The non-far right includes the right, centralists, the left, the far left, people who don't care and people with their heads up their arses are all over the place, not confined to a certain element of the political spectrum...


I see your point….

The posters here are ALL far right and extremists to some degree, which is why I used only that classification.

I tend to live in the purple, some of the red and the blue resonates and some of it doesn’t. I could definitely be a Centralist tho.

I prefer to stay distanced from most of it myself... I worked with Muslims for over 2 decades and found some of them to be good people, others not so much, but that's true anywhere and of any people...

I used to consider myself a centralist but the swing in politics over the last 20+ years now puts me a shade towards Conservative... Not my doing, I just believe countries should be run properly and not on the basis of virtue signalling or pressure from either side...

I would actually prefer governments that would run their countries like a busniess and stay out of social issues altogether...

I concur with that last part wholeheartedly.

I’m really tired of the Christians forcing their ideologies on everyone and manipulating the politicians until they bend to their will. The government has no business in our bedrooms.
Classrooms either but you never seemed to have a problem with that when CRT was the propaganda piece of the day

Why are we even discussing elementary schools on an adult forum that talks about women’s anuses!?? Neither of us have school aged children.

I am supportive of equal rights for everyone… including women and minorities.

Your mother is a minority. You are a man who prides himself on family and dates black women. I have been dating and am currently living with a brown male aka minority and former navy seal. Anyone with any sense in their head would presume you would support my position on race. Maybe you’ve been exposed to the radical racist trolling forums for too long?
NO , but we will be having grandchildren soon won't we? What kind of torn and divided tribalistic shit hole of a country will we be handing down to them if the left is allowed to continue dividing people based on their color because 25 black men have died at the hands of white cops over the last couple of years.

85% of whom had it fucking coming to begin with.

No, I do not support that narrative. No, I do not buy into this hogwash bullshit about "systemic racism". AMerican just had a black fucking president for crying out loud.

And no, I don't support your position on race because it is utter fabricated bullshit of the highest and lamest order, and it is not because I've " been exposed to the radical racist trolling forums for too long" but because I have two fucking eyes and a wealth of common sense and can distinguish between isolated anomalies and systemic problems
 

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These people are just spiteful, psychotic and dont care what happens to the country.

They see their racist cult as the truth and everyone else outside of that is the problem.

Again, ALL they have brought to the table is destruction and unwarranted hate.

They've been brainwashed to act as modern nazis and blame all their grievances on the other parties.....fucking facts be damned.

We will be leaving our grandchildren a hateful, racist world with a one party authoritarian government. Its SAD.

Fucking AMAZING they think its OTHER people who are the dangerous radicals. Its THEM.