The Rich Don't Pay Their Fair Share

The Prowler

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So the richest of the rich who vote Blue are dumber than the not so rich? Could you amplify your argument?
The obscenely wealthy, like our Trust Fund Boy SlopeySeamajor, tend to be Leftist Swine out of a sense of guilt. It's like Howard Hughes said to Katherine Hepburn in that movie: "You can afford to be a socialist because you've never had to worry about money."

I disagree with Reggie.

The majority of the Upper Income group who vote Blue realize that conservatism is the better system, but they are voting in their own self-interest. They know they can take advantage of the inherently corrupt Leftist politicians.
 

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  • The richest 1 percent of Americans will receive a total of $117 billion in net tax cuts in 2026. The middle 20 percent of taxpayers on the income scale, a group that has 20 times the number of taxpayers as the richest 1 percent, will receive less than half that much, $53 billion in net tax cuts that year.


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I find this funny: "a group that has 20 times the number of taxpayers as the richest 1 percent"

When that needs to be explained to the reader, you know they are expecting some dumb ass people to be reading it. Haha!!!


So what is the total income of the richest 1 percent, and what is the total income of the middle 20%? And what will both of those groups be paying in taxes in 2026?
 

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while the filthy rich laugh all the way to the bank.

So on one hand Lardo claims the filthy rich are Democrats in an attempt to claim they are smarter...

On the other hand she claims they are immoral douchebags.


So are the Democrats the smart ones?

Or the immoral ones?


Hint: I already gave the answer.
 

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The debate is actually why the upper upper billionaire class (majority dem or dem leaning); isn't putting their money where there mouths are?

Dude, you are just as much to blame as anyone in this thread for losing focus.

That is one of the things I love about this place. Nobody is able to have a proper debate because somebody is always going off on tangents.

It makes me laugh (in a condescending way).
 

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I disagree with Reggie.

The majority of the Upper Income group who vote Blue realize that conservatism is the better system, but they are voting in their own self-interest. They know they can take advantage of the inherently corrupt Leftist politicians.
That is a salient point, Prowler. The titans of business and industry understand that they must influence Policy in such a way as to provide themselves with advantages and cost savings.

Perhaps I was referring more to the moneyed - like our own Trust Fund Boy SlopeySeamajor -people who were born into wealth or married into wealth like John Kerry. I was reading the other day something about all the unmarried 30 and 40-something cat ladies who live in multi million dollar apartments on NYCs upper east side with no visible means of income who are ardent Progressives and vociferously supported Mondami the Communist Jihadi for Mayor.

Talk about voting against your own interests.
 

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I was reading the other day something about all the unmarried 30 and 40-something cat ladies who live in multi million dollar apartments on NYCs upper east side with no visible means of income who are ardent Progressives and vociferously supported Mondami the Communist Jihadi for Mayor.

Talk about voting against your own interests.

Ha!! When virtue signalling meets the harsh reality of communism!!

It is going to be interesting to see that play out.
 

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That is a salient point, Prowler. The titans of business and industry understand that they must influence Policy in such a way as to provide themselves with advantages and cost savings.

Perhaps I was referring more to the moneyed - like our own Trust Fund Boy SlopeySeamajor -people who were born into wealth or married into wealth like John Kerry. I was reading the other day something about all the unmarried 30 and 40-something cat ladies who live in multi million dollar apartments on NYCs upper east side with no visible means of income who are ardent Progressives and vociferously supported Mondami the Communist Jihadi for Mayor.

Talk about voting against your own interests.


He wasn't born into wealth. Sea happens to have been smart about how he invested his time and money. The Bay Area is an easy place for someone to become a millionaire, Reggie.

Investing in property alone makes it fairly simple.
 

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He wasn't born into wealth. Sea happens to have been smart about how he invested his time and money. The Bay Area is an easy place for someone to become a millionaire, Reggie.

Investing in property alone makes it fairly simple.
Sure, honey, Slopey got that Costa Rican Compound, his beautiful sail boat, his Sonoma town home and that $17k rug and those exquisite ceramic pieces on his shelves because he was a savvy "tradesman" who made wise investment decisions.

No wonder you're a Democrat. You're gullible as fuck.
 

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Sure, honey, Slopey got that Costa Rican Compound, his beautiful sail boat, his Sonoma town home and that $17k rug and those exquisite ceramic pieces on his shelves because he was a savvy "tradesman" who made wise investment decisions.

No wonder you're a Democrat. You're gullible as fuck.

He said he flipped houses, I'm guessing with partners. It sure was, may still be, a lucrative business.

How do you not know that people have become financially secure by investing in real estate?

Does it bust your ass that a regular guy has out done you financially when you think you're brilliant?

I bet it does.
 

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He said he flipped houses, I'm guessing with partners. It sure was, may still be, a lucrative business.

How do you not know that people have become financially secure by investing in real estate?

Does it bust your ass that a regular guy has out done you financially when you think you're brilliant?

I bet it does.
I can’t believe his willful ignorance.
 

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I can’t believe his willful ignorance.

Among the 56 metro areas with populations of at least 1 million, the highest gross flipping profits on a median-priced home were in San Jose, CA ($283,000); San Francisco ($218,000);
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City ($175,000); San Diego ($175,000); and
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Sea also said he bought a home 26 years ago in Costa Rica...this is what AI said about housing prices then and now.

"A coastal home in Costa Rica in 2000 would have cost significantly less than today, likely ranging from the low-to-mid-hundreds of thousands of dollars, depending on factors like location and size. Specific 2000 price data for coastal homes is not readily available, but the overall cost of living was much lower, and recent estimates for 2025 suggest a range of $100,000 to over $1,000,000 for properties today."
 

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He said he flipped houses, I'm guessing with partners. It sure was, may still be, a lucrative business.

How do you not know that people have become financially secure by investing in real estate?

Does it bust your ass that a regular guy has out done you financially when you think you're brilliant?

I bet it does.
A friend of a friend of mine grew up in a dirt poor family, he dropped out of high school and went to work literally digging ditches, worked his ass off and in time several years he ended up owning the commercial construction company and making big bucks.

It’s rare but some people from modest backgrounds do become wealthy
 

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He said he flipped houses, I'm guessing with partners. It sure was, may still be, a lucrative business.

How do you not know that people have become financially secure by investing in real estate?

Does it bust your ass that a regular guy has out done you financially when you think you're brilliant?

I bet it does.
Empirical observation, dear. He can say anything he wants to to gullible dunbfucks like you. I look at the evidence as empirically observed.

Slopey @Seamajor has been around for close to twenty years on these forums. As far as I know, he's never talked about a job or career. He constantly posted about his Costa Rican Compound and always posted pictures of his daily surfing romps and his gorgeous bromeliads that he was clearly paying a gardener to care for because we all know he wasn't doing it. Then he moves back home and buys a townhome in Sonoma County, one of the moist expensive zip codes in the United States, and brags about dropping $17k on a Persian rug and shows pictures of the room with the rug and very fine ceramic pieces on the shelves in the background.

The bromeliads, the daily surfing, the beautiful sail boat, the Persian rug, the fine ceramics - these are indicators of a refined and MONEYED taste that a simple "tradesman" would likely not possess.

But then, you are gullible as fuck.
 

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Empirical observation, dear. He can say anything he wants to to gullible dunbfucks like you. I look at the evidence as empirically observed.

Slopey @Seamajor has been around for close to twenty years on these forums. As far as I know, he's never talked about a job or career. He constantly posted about his Costa Rican Compound and always posted pictures of his daily surfing romps and his gorgeous bromeliads that he was clearly paying a gardener to care for because we all know he wasn't doing it. Then he moves back home and buys a townhome in Sonoma County, one of the moist expensive zip codes in the United States, and brags about dropping $17k on a Persian rug and shows pictures of the room with the rug and very fine ceramic pieces on the shelves in the background.

The bromeliads, the daily surfing, the beautiful sail boat, the Persian rug, the fine ceramics - these are indicators of a refined and MONEYED taste that a simple "tradesman" would likely not possess.

But then, you are gullible as fuck.


He's been retired. He doesn't work, he surfs...he has a sailboat in the BA that he talks about all the time. He shown pictures of...

How is it impossible, that he made that money before he retired? Prove that it's impossible to make money on real estate investment in the Bay Area. I wish you luck.

He is self made and that chaps your ass because you KNOW just how much smarter you are, right?

aaaaahahahahahahahahahaha
 

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He's been retired. He doesn't work, he surfs...he has a sailboat in the BA that he talks about all the time. He shown pictures of...

How is it impossible, that he made that money before he retired? Prove that it's impossible to make money on real estate investment in the Bay Area. I wish you luck.

He is self made and that chaps your ass because you KNOW just how much smarter you are, right?

aaaaahahahahahahahahahaha
Ragey is the type of whiner that if he worked on a car lot selling cars, he’d be the one crying about the successful salespeople getting all the breaks and having their sales success handed to them.
 

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"Their fair share."

What's my fair share of what you worked for?

What's the State's "fair share" of anybody else's labor?

$0.00. That's what.

Maybe the profligate-ass State needs to stop wasting fucking money instead of Commie cocksuckers whining and moaning that it doesn't steal more.

This entire "They don't pay their fair share!" lament is nothing but a fucking whinge. "The parasite isn't killing the host fast enough, wehhhh!"

Shut up.
 
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Empirical observation, dear. He can say anything he wants to to gullible dunbfucks like you. I look at the evidence as empirically observed.

Slopey @Seamajor has been around for close to twenty years on these forums. As far as I know, he's never talked about a job or career. He constantly posted about his Costa Rican Compound and always posted pictures of his daily surfing romps and his gorgeous bromeliads that he was clearly paying a gardener to care for because we all know he wasn't doing it. Then he moves back home and buys a townhome in Sonoma County, one of the moist expensive zip codes in the United States, and brags about dropping $17k on a Persian rug and shows pictures of the room with the rug and very fine ceramic pieces on the shelves in the background.

The bromeliads, the daily surfing, the beautiful sail boat, the Persian rug, the fine ceramics - these are indicators of a refined and MONEYED taste that a simple "tradesman" would likely not possess.

But then, you are gullible as fuck.
Hope you’re not upset Reggie. I believe I told you a few times. I served an electrical apprenticeship and became an electrician, then an electrical contractor in a wealthy area in San Francisco, and Marin county. I watched others killing it in Real Estate. I took a stab at it on a lessor scale. Retired at 50. Took what I learned to CR. I was hired as a consultant and flipped a few homes, on my own. I decided to invest in gold and silver during COVID. Since then both have doubled. I’ve done nothing that any motivated person can’t do. Whats you story of success Reggie? I’m all ears
 

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Hope you’re not upset Reggie. I believe I told you a few times. I served an electrical apprenticeship and became an electrician, then an electrical contractor in a wealthy area in San Francisco, and Marin county. I watched others killing it in Real Estate. I took a stab at it on a lessor scale. Retired at 50. Took what I learned to CR. I was hired as a consultant and flipped a few homes, on my own. I decided to invest in gold and silver during COVID. Since then both have doubled. I’ve done nothing that any motivated person can’t do. Whats you story of success Reggie? I’m all ears
Sure, Slopey. I believe you. A lot of Electricians have a very refined, cultured and moneyed taste in Persian rugs, fine ceramics, beautiful sail boats and walled compounds in Costa Rica ... and Bromeliads.

The Bromeliads and Cacti were a tell, you know.
 

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"Their fair share."

What's my fair share of what you worked for?

What's the State's "fair share" of anybody else's labor?

$0.00. That's what.

Maybe the profligate-ass State needs to stop wasting fucking money instead of Commie cocksuckers whining and moaning that it doesn't steal more.

This entire "They don't pay their fair share!" lament is nothing but a fucking whinge. "The parasite isn't killing the host fast enough, wehhhh!"

Shut up.
This post is funny on so many levels.

well done.
 

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Yes, the middle income and upper middle income vote the economic interests of the obscenely wealthy. Thanks for providing proof. They bear the burden of the highest tax payers while letting the obscenely wealthy off the hook.

So, really who are the dumbest fuck voters?
Exactly.
 

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Oh, like those churches feeding people since SNAP benefits are down?

Stupid churches.
Why do you choose to be obtuse? No one said the churches are stupid for helping poor people -- the ones that do actually do that, anyway. The point is, it isn't the fucking churches' responsibility, and leaving it to churches is perverse and evil.