They all hate us anyhow, So let's drop the big one now

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No it isnt a whataboutism. I turned on the left a long time ago because the hatred and violence.

I never said you were a democrat and i wouldnt call you a liberal, i dont consider anyone on the left an actual liberal.

Jan 6th shouldnt piss anyone off. People were mad at the government and took the grievence to the government. That is the epitome of the US spirit. The people used to tar and feather rogue politicians who stopped representing the people who voted for them.

What should piss you off is how people were arrested and forced to sit and jail for more than a year without any charges given. Thats fucking chilling. Because only one party is allowed to protest. And they can burn down US communities, beat and murder innocent people.....and get out of jail after a week.

Okay so its protest against the government you find upsetting?
That wasn't a protest against the government. That was Trump trying to rally his minions into overthrowing the government.

See how stupid you sound? A protest? No, it was a fucking riot. If they'd got their hands on Pelosi and Pence the blood in the Capitol would have been real. Trump whipped his idiot brainslaves into a frenzy and then gleefully watched while they desecrated the Capitol.

Not a word for hours while they broke into lawmakers rooms, stole their shit and smeared their shit all over the walls and floors.

Some "protest".
 

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Then why did you mention the constitutional republic when the subject was democracy?
...because you wanted to minimize the very idea making a disclaimer to justify the authoritarianism that Trump seeks to establish. You have no idea how transparent your ruses are, do you?
Wow.

First i blatantly answered you. And you quoted my clear answer and claiming i didnt answer. Even though you quoted my answer.

And now you are going off the rails entirely saying im "minimizing" some hate fueled delusion you folks here have that Trump is commiting authoritarianism.

You are all kinds of wrong right now.

Lets start off with the definition of constitutional republic and YOUR definition of democracy. Because authoritarianism is less likely under a constitutional republic than it is under a democracy. Authoritarianism is less compatible with a constitutional republic.

Im thinking thats why it offends you.
 

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Here's one for you:
Do you monarchists only think democracy rulez when your candidate wins,
...otherwise fake elections were stole?
I'm a "monarchist" now because I think you Leftist Scum suck?

Do you honestly believe that Joe Biden received 81 million legitimate votes in 2020 from actual real human being voters?

If say you do, there's only three possibilities: You're either a cognitively deficient moron, intellectually dishonest or you were in on the fraud.

In Admin's case, I'd ask him if he giggled like a school girl as he filled out fraudulent ballots to hand off to glove-wearing mules to go stuff into Zuckerberg ballot boxes conveniently placed in untrafficked back streets with few cameras to hide the fraudulent activity.

In your case, I'm think you might benefit from Prevagen or some other drug for the brain damaged.
 

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I'm a "monarchist" now because I think you Leftist Scum suck?

Do you honestly believe that Joe Biden received 81 million legitimate votes in 2020 from actual real human being voters?

If say you do, there's only three possibilities: You're either a cognitively deficient moron, intellectually dishonest or you were in on the fraud.

In Admin's case, I'd ask him if he giggled like a school girl as he filled out fraudulent ballots to hand off to glove-wearing mules to go stuff into Zuckerberg ballot boxes conveniently placed in untrafficked back streets with few cameras to hide the fraudulent activity.

In your case, I'm think you might benefit from Prevagen or some other drug for the brain damaged.
you win stupid post of the day.

Gratz!
 

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Wow.

First i blatantly answered you. And you quoted my clear answer and claiming i didnt answer. Even though you quoted my answer.

And now you are going off the rails entirely saying im "minimizing" some hate fueled delusion you folks here have that Trump is commiting authoritarianism.

You are all kinds of wrong right now.

Lets start off with the definition of constitutional republic and YOUR definition of democracy. Because authoritarianism is less likely under a constitutional republic than it is under a democracy. Authoritarianism is less compatible with a constitutional republic.

Im thinking thats why it offends you.
I asked you if constitutional republic and democracy are mutually exclusive.
. Do you know what a Representative Democracy is? How about Democratic Republic?

I've posted this before for your benefit, but I doubt you've ever read it, or if you have you ever understood how it applies to DJ Trump, but here for your reading pleasure it is again:

I must say I believe, or fear, that taking the world as a whole these things are on the increase. Hitler, no doubt, will soon disappear, but only at the expense of strengthening (a) Stalin, (b) the Anglo-American millionaires and © all sorts of petty fuhrers of the type of de Gaulle. All the national movements everywhere, even those that originate in resistance to German domination, seem to take non-democratic forms, to group themselves round some superhuman fuhrer (Hitler, Stalin, Salazar, Franco, Gandhi, De Valera are all varying examples) and to adopt the theory that the end justifies the means. Everywhere the world movement seems to be in the direction of centralised economies which can be made to ‘work’ in an economic sense but which are not democratically organised and which tend to establish a caste system. With this go the horrors of emotional nationalism and a tendency to disbelieve in the existence of objective truth because all the facts have to fit in with the words and prophecies of some infallible fuhrer. Already history has in a sense ceased to exist, ie. there is no such thing as a history of our own times which could be universally accepted, and the exact sciences are endangered as soon as military necessity ceases to keep people up to the mark. Hitler can say that the Jews started the war, and if he survives that will become official history. He can’t say that two and two are five, because for the purposes of, say, ballistics they have to make four. But if the sort of world that I am afraid of arrives, a world of two or three great superstates which are unable to conquer one another, two and two could become five if the fuhrer wished it. That, so far as I can see, is the direction in which we are actually moving, though, of course, the process is reversible.

As to the comparative immunity of Britain and the USA. Whatever the pacifists etc. may say, we have not gone totalitarian yet and this is a very hopeful symptom. I believe very deeply, as I explained in my book The Lion and the Unicorn, in the English people and in their capacity to centralise their economy without destroying freedom in doing so. But one must remember that Britain and the USA haven’t been really tried, they haven’t known defeat or severe suffering, and there are some bad symptoms to balance the good ones. To begin with there is the general indifference to the decay of democracy. Do you realise, for instance, that no one in England under 26 now has a vote and that so far as one can see the great mass of people of that age don’t give a damn for this? Secondly there is the fact that the intellectuals are more totalitarian in outlook than the common people. On the whole the English intelligentsia have opposed Hitler, but only at the price of accepting Stalin. Most of them are perfectly ready for dictatorial methods, secret police, systematic falsification of history etc. so long as they feel that it is on ‘our’ side. Indeed the statement that we haven’t a Fascist movement in England largely means that the young, at this moment, look for their fuhrer elsewhere. One can’t be sure that that won’t change, nor can one be sure that the common people won’t think ten years hence as the intellectuals do now. I hope they won’t, I even trust they won’t, but if so it will be at the cost of a struggle. If one simply proclaims that all is for the best and doesn’t point to the sinister symptoms, one is merely helping to bring totalitarianism nearer.

You also ask, if I think the world tendency is towards Fascism, why do I support the war. It is a choice of evils—I fancy nearly every war is that. I know enough of British imperialism not to like it, but I would support it against Nazism or Japanese imperialism, as the lesser evil. Similarly I would support the USSR against Germany because I think the USSR cannot altogether escape its past and retains enough of the original ideas of the Revolution to make it a more hopeful phenomenon than Nazi Germany. I think, and have thought ever since the war began, in 1936 or thereabouts, that our cause is the better, but we have to keep on making it the better, which involves constant criticism.

Yours sincerely,
Geo. Orwell (1944)
 

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I'm a "monarchist" now because I think you Leftist Scum suck?

He has to call us something. Having a normal conversation is hard when you are so wrong in your wrongness.

They have to pretend they dont understand fuck all being said, name call, and hurry up to slap a label on you.

See Reg....leftists are the universes gift to us. The enlightened and super intelligent ones sent to us to show us all how to live and think. So to oppose one, that must make you brands of evil and stupid.

If you were a decent, good and smart person you wouldnt be questioning them or disagreeing with them.

You dirty dirty little monarchist!
 

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Do you honestly believe that Joe Biden received 81 million legitimate votes in 2020 from actual real human being voters?

If say you do, there's only three possibilities: You're either a cognitively deficient moron, intellectually dishonest or you were in on the fraud.
Would you care to substantiate your claim of fraud with evidence?
...oh, and everybody knows, or anyone can tell etc doesn't count.
 

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He has to call us something. Having a normal conversation is hard when you are so wrong in your wrongness.

They have to pretend they dont understand fuck all being said, name call, and hurry up to slap a label on you.

See Reg....leftists are the universes gift to us. The enlightened and super intelligent ones sent to us to show us all how to live and think. So to oppose one, that must make you brands of evil and stupid.

If you were a decent, good and smart person you wouldnt be questioning them or disagreeing with them.

You dirty dirty little monarchist!
See how stupid you sound?
 

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I’m fixing to throw a nice piece of ling cod in the oven, hold your unread yammering until it’s asked for.

Well you better use that time to come to terms with how in not going to ever take orders from any of you.

Ill post when i want, how i want, and as much as i want and when i stop, its because i wanted to.

So you can feel free to simply not read...or respond...to any of my posts.

Quoting me to spam about how dumb you think i am isnt going to do anything but get YOU upset and frustrated. You are doing it to yourself.
 

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That wasn't a protest against the government. That was Trump trying to rally his minions into overthrowing the government.

See how stupid you sound? A protest? No, it was a fucking riot. If they'd got their hands on Pelosi and Pence the blood in the Capitol would have been real. Trump whipped his idiot brainslaves into a frenzy and then gleefully watched while they desecrated the Capitol.

Not a word for hours while they broke into lawmakers rooms, stole their shit and smeared their shit all over the walls and floors.

Some "protest".

It WAS a protest against the government. Trump repeatedly told people to abide by the laws and remain peaceful. Repeatedly.

Why is it suddenly offensive if an elected offcail calls their base to protest? Its done ALL the time.

Whitmer did it over Right to Work. Warren and Maxine Waters called people to protest....and also called them to treat others like garbage ....over the "muslim ban" and the BLM protests.

Many politicains....including Harris....told rioters to keep going.

Why is that offensive to you? Its been done since the country was born.
 

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I see you are firmly in the first category as well.
A simple white flag would be fine Ragtard.
Would you care to substantiate your claim of fraud with evidence?
...oh, and everybody knows, or anyone can tell etc doesn't count.

Everyone knew you couldn't answer the question.
Care to try not answering it again?
 

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Would you care to substantiate your claim of fraud with evidence?
...oh, and everybody knows, or anyone can tell etc doesn't count.

So in other words, you dont believe that Biden actually got 81 million votes either.

Its okay, H. We know. Youre safe here. No one believes that shit at all.

You dont have to ask for proof of fraud you know no one has.....to just admit you dont buy Jim Crow Joe got 81 million votes either.
 

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It WAS a protest against the government. Trump repeatedly told people to abide by the laws and remain peaceful. Repeatedly.

Why is it suddenly offensive if an elected offcail calls their base to protest? Its done ALL the time.

Whitmer did it over Right to Work. Warren and Maxine Waters called people to protest....and also called them to treat others like garbage ....over the "muslim ban" and the BLM protests.

Many politicains....including Harris....told rioters to keep going.

Why is that offensive to you? Its been done since the country was born.
That's different. Leftist scum, like Chuckie Schumer, can threaten Supreme Court Justices by name with no consequence. JB Pritzker can call on Leftist scum to not give Republican "any peace" with no consequence or any Leftist Shitbags decrying his violent rhetoric.
 

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And i answered you. Directly. And you are lost as fuck.

And yes ive read Orwell. Thats why im not a leftist.
You have not answered. What is a Democratic Republic? Start there.
...if you read Orwell and are a supporter of authoritarianism as a result (a Trump supporter - monarchist) I'm sure Orwell would be aghast.
 

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That's different. Leftist scum, like Chuckie Schumer, can threaten Supreme Court Justices by name with no consequence. JB Pritzker can call on Leftist scum to not give Republican "any peace" with no consequence or any Leftist Shitbags decrying his violent rhetoric.
Ragtard...you aren't trying to sidestep the question I've asked you again, are you?
 

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A simple white flag would be fine Ragtard.


Everyone knew you couldn't answer the question.
Care to try not answering it again?
Morons believe what their betters tell them to believe.

Here's another one, Holli: Since we all know Joe Biden wasn't in charge of anything the last four years, who, exactly, was making the decisions? We all know it wasn't Joe. Don't you find the least disturbing that we had no actual President for four years and a coterie of unelected Lefties were directing policy?

Oh wait! Of course you don't. You're a cognitively deficient moron who believes Joe Biden actually did receive 81 million legitimate votes.
 

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You have not answered. What is a Democratic Republic? Start there.
...if you read Orwell and are a supporter of authoritarianism as a result (a Trump supporter - monarchist) I'm sure Orwell would be aghast.

I said we are a constitutional republic. Then you started on about democracy and then i told you we have democratic process and elements....but we ARE a constitutional republic.

And you are playing a gish gallop trying to appear profound, cut and pasting Orwell completely unaware of the irony.

Continue though. Im watching.
 

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That's different. Leftist scum, like Chuckie Schumer, can threaten Supreme Court Justices by name with no consequence. JB Pritzker can call on Leftist scum to not give Republican "any peace" with no consequence or any Leftist Shitbags decrying his violent rhetoric.

Ah jeez i actually forgot about ole Schumie threatening Justices.

Its hard to keep track of all their hate and violence.
 

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I said we are a constitutional republic. Then you started on about democracy and then i told you we have democratic process and elements....but we ARE a constitutional republic.

And you are playing a gish gallop trying to appear profound, cut and pasting Orwell completely unaware of the irony.

Continue though. Im watching.
I asked you what a Representative Democracy is. Can you answer that, Duhvtard?